When we reached near deadline day 1, I realized that I could not essentially beg people to vote for a leading wagon and then not vote for anything at all. I tried to VLA until deadline but people came too close to no lynching. To avoid voting while rapidly posting near deadline would be ludicrous by most people’s standard. Add in the fact that people know me and I rely more on votes in late game than arguments over who is scummy, completely not voting day 1 would be wrongfully interpreted as a scumclaim. So I deliberately self-voted and claimed treestump because I wanted to live where I would feel more useful. By hiding voting until the end game, I could have many more options until end game.
If Molla decided to lie, I would “destump” and counter him, so I never really cared what his alignment was. As long as Molla and I were both alive, I could ensure and extra lynch or get a guaranteed scum lynch. There was no point in using Molla’s ability ever. The only good of it would be to cause players like Ozgin to not get an ability off. Even if Molla is scum, he could not counteract my ability since I was already “destumping” and “restumping” repeatedly.
Second, I saw that any game with just one scum alive would naturally end with me doublevoting the last scum. After all, who shoots a treestump? My claim of being able to “destump” at will would naturally piss off the scumteam.
Third, I have pulled a similar gambit to this before on USMB, although what I was saying was a bit more plausible. (
Link here) There were two scumteams. I was immune to one. I claimed to be the reason why the kill failed, despite knowing there was a doctor in the game. The scum would be drawn to me regardless. The only players drawn to me were my sister (who frankly scumreads me every game), one ice scum and one fire scum. I wound up getting them lynched after exposing said gambit.
Fourth, the only player familiar with the bulletproof gambit I have pulled previously was dead and in the graveyard (ika). ika’s not the type to let a gamebreaking strategy go uncountered. Even as scum, he tries to prevent my breaking of the game if he bothers posting at all. ika’s not dumb. He may not know whether or not I am lying or not, but he knows I have some sort of plan and its best to wreck it if we are of opposing alignments. The best way to wreck my plans is with pressure. Given the guilty on him, his pressure on me would have been laughable. So someone else comes at me harder. Now who did that? Drixx.
Now we get to the point where one of the scumteams naturally has two or less players. Drixx then immediately starts pushing me to self-vote and prove my treestump status. I immediately ignore and attempt not to engage him. Yet, when he starts to want to mislynch townies because of double voters and people start unvoting obvious scum in Lihin to prove they are not the double voter, I had to do something.
I step in and tell Drixx to stop it. If he could let it go, I would have. I mentioned several times that the game is unlosable if we just let me do my thing. I meant it.
His response that if I acknowledged there were extra votes that he would have let it go is ludicrious. Who says, gee there’s an aberration in this voting pattern, I am going to ignore it once even my biggest detractor says its there? That’s ludicrous. I state that it’s ludicrious. I want Drixx lynched for his rolefishing.
Now, why am I convinced only scum would come after me? Because town usually do not care about lies that do not directly impact them. Hilariously Unbalanced 2, PeregrineV was lying about being a question asker. I knew it from the moment he claimed it because of his previous comments in another game. Usually when I present evidence that a townie is lying it works, but here the town did not care because the lie did not impact them or their game. I’ve pulled off other blatantly obvious bullshit but it worked because only scum cared about the bullshit.
For instance, I claimed Bulletproof Cop after CCing a scum gunsmith. It worked. I survived two extra nights and got two additional investigations off.
I do not gambit or lie very often as town. When I do, I do it when it will catch scum or not hurt us. I tend to favor claiming bulletproof as if it is important that I do not lie.
I told Marquis to let me handle setup spec because I had a plan around the roles anyway that I did not want to reveal. That should be obvious now.
Now, let’s break down all the attacks on my role individually since the end of the Jackal. There are not many.
At the end of yesterday, I was just a treestump. There was no mention of my “destumping” ability. There was sort of an allusion “I will tell you when I’m not a treestump”. #2219 is a stretch as well. Having a three shot immune to lynch role with a player that cannot vote half the time is broken as fuck in scum’s favor if true. I referenced vote shenanigans plural though.
OC starts pushing me to fullclaim and for massclaim in twilight. What the fuck? Massclaim in twilight. People obviously saw through this shit. Then their claim was shitty too. I have difficulty between determining scummy wgertz and just scum here. The question is why? Why was OC rolefishing the treestump in twilight?
At 2497, I pretty much directly state that rolefishing me is a bad idea because unstumping at the end of the game is best. In a 1 v 1, town wins. Scum HATE the idea of that. They should. It should drive them stark raving mad as they have to get two players to the end in a likely multiball setup.
The first on day 2 is TPTG which occurs right after 2497. They basically accuse my treestump of being a mafia treestump. I almost got them to state the role would be too overpowered for town. I haven’t cared for them much since that time. Am I certain they are scum, no. They stopped with the rolefishing after a few posts. I am definitely wanting to look here in the future though.
The conflict with ika also suggests he didn’t like the claim. He was flipped scum. He quickly abandoned this once the guilty came out but he was fully prepared to battle with me.
#2589, I VLA for my own mental health because of too many scums. This is not consistent with me pushing one or two scumreads. (Drixx mostly, but a little bit of Lihin, ika and OC). I couldn’t really push TPTG by saying yes you feel into my trap… well what was it… uhhh…well you see?
#2879, Ozgin checking me meant I could be conftown and NEVER have people look at the vote numbers. I just say it’s anti town because I’m conftown and basically stop people from looking.
I again say that this will piss scum off. Of course it would. If my claims were true, both scumteams would be pissed.
#2946, Me stating not to check BBMolla because him being conftown is bad. This is consistent with everything else I’ve done to basically stop the game from losing. I didn’t want Molla investigated unless he was attempting to conftown himself. Molla conftown means it would be difficult to counteract his nightskip if he was scum.
Now we get to Drixx and his professed epic stupidity.
He claims (1) to believe me as treestump and to not be rolefishing others. A detailed look at 2985 suggests this is not the case.
First, he has “Titus claims to still be a treestump” in italics. This suggests he’s drawing attention to the fact he does NOT believe me. The request for me to self-vote is a rolefishing one because he is deliberately hunting for the double voter(s). He’s either rolefishing me or rolefishing them. He’s rolefishing someone because he wants to find a particular role.
This post comes suspiciously after the Lihin wagon takes off. These two have been back and forth awkwardly voting and defending each other through the thread. I doubt it’s a coincidence that Drixx “just noticed” the votecount being off.
I ignore this post because the last thing I want to do is be forced to vote. After all Drixx just said he was being an idiot. If I let it go, maybe he will too.
Lihin then claims Town Foreman who can reduce prod replace times. Yet, she doesn’t pick the guy who is wagoned solely for being a lurker? She picks Bulba. Fucking really? Hell no.
The attention is on Lihin for that part of her claim being obvious bullshit. So what does Drixx do? He immediately asks Cooper to self-vote to prove he’s not a double voter. This annoyed the fuck out of me. Yet, what can I do? My hands are tied. Unless he rolefishes me, I cannot do shit. Yet, this will be a massive distraction from the wagon.
#3022 is good posting by OC highlighting the fact that Drixx and Lihin have been linked together like Siamese panda bears.
#3048, Good posting again by OC highlighting that lying to a player and players is bad. Let’s see here, the mod lied to us about prod statuses by saying players are prodded after X time. According to Lihin Bulba is not told about his hated status, which is incredibly bastard in and of itself. Yes, you take one less vote to lynch but why would I tell you about that as a non-bastard mod?
OC does vote me later, but I have no problem with this vote (in terms of my gambit anyway) because it’s about meta and not about anything else. Sure it could be a distraction for Lihin but that seems like a stretch major given he’s been making solid cases on why to lynch Lihin.
#3095, Cooper wants to tell him to look into the discrepancies. I tell him no. That’s a bad idea. I direct Cooper to the part where the number of votes to lynch is independent of the number of players in the game. I intended that to end the scenario as who cares about the number of votes.
Scum doublehammer? Great. They scumclaimed. Literally, who should fucking care but scum.
#3102, Saying again this process is anti-town and distracts from obvscum Lihin.
#3103, I highlight the scum motivation in Drixx pursuing this.
Drixx then starts having a paranoia fit saying I’m lying. “There were no discrepancies” was not a lie. There were none. No one was double voting, and no one was going to.
I tell him to shut up. Repeat myself.
Drixx just insists on calling me a liar and redoing my math to reach the same conclusion.
And we are at the kill Drixx moment.
We kill Drixx or Lihin today. Then we kill the other. Both are fucking scum.
