We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Drixx]

I'll just prod dodge through today, thanks. I've made my prediction and I'm more interested in seeing whether I'm right or not than trying to find an alternate wagon for Lihin; especially because the moment I do go find someone who looks scummy and I put up a case against him, then Titus will be right back going "See! He's trying to keep us from lynching Lihin!". There is literally nothing I can do to get out of the box, because anything I do other than help the Lihin wagon will be pointed to by Titus as "evidence" that I'm trying to keep Lihin from being lynched.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO FUCKING MAKE A SECOND FUCKING WAGON AGAINST LIHIN, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

God DAMN, man, what the hell? I'm asking you for your goddamn READS, not for your goddamn VOTE. You know what reads are, right? Those little opinions you give on players? That help those of us who can't read your mind understand who you think's scummy and townie? Remember those?

[Titus]

I'll just prod dodge through today, thanks. I've made my prediction and I'm more interested in seeing whether I'm right or not than trying to find an alternate wagon for Lihin; especially because the moment I do go find someone who looks scummy and I put up a case against him, then Titus will be right back going "See! He's trying to keep us from lynching Lihin!". There is literally nothing I can do to get out of the box, because anything I do other than help the Lihin wagon will be pointed to by Titus as "evidence" that I'm trying to keep Lihin from being lynched.

I don't think it's hardly fair that I could argue that you were derailing a Lihin wagon by answering a question I directly put to you.

Reads, please. Pick someone that's not me, Lihin, or you. Give me a read. Thanks.

[Titus]

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO FUCKING MAKE A SECOND FUCKING WAGON AGAINST LIHIN, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

God DAMN, man, what the hell? I'm asking you for your goddamn READS, not for your goddamn VOTE. You know what reads are, right? Those little opinions you give on players? That help those of us who can't read your mind understand who you think's scummy and townie? Remember those?

Umm that's what I wanted to do but I'm trying not to get pissed or interpret everything he does as fucking scummy.

[Drixx]

Be mad at Titus, not me. She's the one who has this insane paranoid theory that I'm scum and had a gigantic blow up in the thread just to save Lihin.

Anything I do that might take steam away from the Lihin wagon will be viewed by Titus as evidence that her insanity is actually true

. This includes reads. Sorry. Go complain to the source of the problem.

[Titus]

@Drixx, 3252. No. Your reads will explicitly not be used to argue you're derailing a Lihin wagon. Stop the nonsense. I asked for a read on anyone not named Lihin, me, or you. I can't argue that's derailing. There are at least 5 non-town roles left likely. Knock off the pity party. Please.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

And yes, I know I sound upset. Because I am.

I mean, for crying out loud, Drixx, I know Titus is a hard-assed girl when she doubles down (goodness knows I have firsthand experience of that from Hilariously Unbalanced Mafia 2. Seriously, read everything she did on the last two days. This is

light

compared to that). And in some ways I don't blame you for feeling boxed in. But you know what's worse? When you act like you're so boxed in you don't even have to help EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS GODDAMN GAME BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR GODDAMN PITY PARTY ABOUT HOW BIG BAD TITUS IS GETTING ON YOUR CASE. AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!

Talk to me. Talk to Cerb. Talk to

ANYONE NOT NAMED TITUS

. but for the fucking love of god do not fucking quit on us.

p-edit: yeah, well, it pisses me off when you get into that high level of melodramatics over this shit.

(That and it hits a little close to home IRL for me, but that's irrelevant to this game.)

Also, Drixx. Remember when you were getting on Titus for not taking those "obvious outs" earlier? Why don't you stop being a hypocrite and take the one Titus gave you?

P-EDIT: I'M MAD AT YOU BECAUSE YOU WANT TO THROW YOUR GODDAMN PITY PARTY AND ACT ALL MOPEY, USELESS, AND WHINY BECAUSE "waaaaaaaaaaaaah Titus will hurt me!"

SHE FUCKING SAID SHE WOULDN'T SAY THAT IF YOU GAVE YOUR READS! HELL, SHE

ASKED

YOU TO GIVE THEM!

HERE, LEMME QUOTE IT FOR YA!

You want me to reset. Scumhunt. Don't go back to the past. That will not get you anywhere. I know what I was doing there.

Reads. Pick someone. Anyone. Make a town or scum case if their name is not Lihin, Titus or Drixx. Go.

You tell me, does this sound like someone who's gonna auto jump you for doing anything else other than pushing Lihin?

You want me to stop being angry at you?

GROW A PAIR OF FUCKING BALLS, GET THE FUCK OUT OF YOUR CORNER, AND PLAY THE DAMN GAME AS IF TITUS DOESN'T EXIST.

*deep breaths*

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

And hey, you know the only way that you'll KNOW that Titus won't jump you the moment you do anything else? You actually do it.

So go on. Give a read. Any read that's not her, Lihin, or yourself. Dare her to jump you for doing anything but pushing Lihin. If she does, you're justified. If she doesn't, you're now advancing the game because everyone else knows what you think. Win-win for you.

[Titus]

BC, talk to me about Lucian. They make no sense to me. *bats eyes* Please.

[Drixx]

That makes perfect sense Bulbasaur. There's a small logical problem with it though. You're asking me to accept the premise that someone who has thus far behaved illogically will suddenly behave in a predictable way that is logically consistent with one certain post she made, but not others. As for all the rest of your anger, it's misplaced. You wouldn't feel like being an obedient lapdog to some insane person who was irrationally climbing up your ass and refused to be swayed. Why, then, should I sit and spend the next however long being an obedient little monkey?

Perhaps later tonight or tomorrow I'll feel differently and have some motivation to look closely and give some thoughts, but right now I decidedly DO NOT feel so inclined, and I'm certainly not going to do so as a reward for being yelled at and mocked and browbeaten.

[Titus]

Mastina, your game was a mindfuck btw. Very enjoyable. Is there a scummy for best mindfucking setup? :S

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Fuck, gimme your read on ME.

Like, at this point I'm almost half-convinced Titus is right because you are bitching so damn much about this that it's not funny. I really want to townread you because I felt that your D1 play, case response aside, was fairly town, and I've been keeping Bulb from voting you since your BP claim because of that. But at this point I almost want to just say "Fuck it, Bulb, vote him if you want tomorrow" because this is just unnecessary.

Titus doesn't exist in this game.

Lihin may exist but is an external thing irrelevant to the current state.

You have everyone else in the game placed before you. What do you think of them? Give me that.

P-EDIT: Oh, right, forgot about that while I was channeling my inner Kuribo or something.

That's kinda how I feel about Lucian. Granted, I've had him on the scummy side for most of the game. Incidentally, where Lucian's vengilante claim made me think he's scum for it, Bulb's thought he's town for it, and we're pretty much in the same boat as with Drixx (kinda), only reversed so that he's the one with the greater read that takes preference.

P-EDIT: Hold on, I need to take a couple more deep breaths.

[Titus]

I can't really give Lucian any towncred for the vig shot. Hell, in Lucian's shoes I would have asked Pika for permission to shoot them. Pika probably would have granted it as it would eliminate the possibility that they would be scum together. Of course, I am sick dark and fucking twisted. I don't like players who don't make sense to me. However, players that make no sense to me generally are town so...

What are you thinking of ChiVi and vonflare? I'm not remembering much of them.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

That makes perfect sense Bulbasaur. There's a small logical problem with it though. You're asking me to accept the premise that someone who has thus far behaved illogically will suddenly behave in a predictable way that is logically consistent with one certain post she made, but not others. As for all the rest of your anger, it's misplaced. You wouldn't feel like being an obedient lapdog to some insane person who was irrationally climbing up your ass and refused to be swayed. Why, then, should I sit and spend the next however long being an obedient little monkey?

So you want to be a hypocrite, then? Or be the black pot with the black kettle? Because you're doing the

same thing

(or near enough) that you said Titus was doing in response to your DV push.

You may have a little point about that premise. But here's the thing: Titus isn't the only one asking you. I'm asking you, and not at the behest of Titus or for any direct reason about/from Titus. I, Ivysaur, want you to step away from all this and think about anyone else in the game.

You think you're resisting being an obedient animal to an insane owner, but that's not really the situation anymore. The insane owner has been leashed. He (well, she, but still) can't hurt you unless you deliberately open yourself to him anymore. Now you're back with other animals who want you to talk about ANYTHING ELSE except the insane man, et al because they want you to start healing and/or coping and GODDAMN I feel like this is starting to get away from me. Yay, metaphorgotten!

Like I said, act like TItus doesn't exist. Act like you never had that spat a few pages ago or something. Gimme some reads.

Oh, yeah, and reads on Boonskies. And vonflare. Boonskies is just don't fucking understand and vonflare is just a lurky scumbag that I want dead before any MyLo/LyLo situation. Neither of them have really done shit-all for the gamestate and are just lurking in the background. And vonflare is actively trying to look oblivious and clueless about things and near-about blindly voting people simply because that's where the majority is to skate by. Boonskies isn't as obvious as vonflare, but he only hops in to say little one-liners or pipe up about wanting to hammer people (I mean, I know Ika likes to be the hammer guy sometimes, and his avatar leads me to believe he likes TENG, but come on, what the hell, dude?), but the lack of anything really worthwhile that I can recall is pinging me hard.

Titus: You could always nom it for best...setup? Or did that get put into Game of the Year?

P-EDIT: Well, I just spoke on vonflare. As for Chrivi, other than their stupidity regarding neighbors I don't really remember that much. They've been a non-entity like Om since then, really.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Also, I do apologize to Bulb if he's been hankering to post for awhile.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Perhaps later tonight or tomorrow I'll feel differently and have some motivation to look closely and give some thoughts, but right now I decidedly DO NOT feel so inclined, and I'm certainly not going to do so as a reward for being yelled at and mocked and browbeaten.

Also, I'm not TRYING to mock you. I'm just very pissed and upset because you're acting rather melodramatic and refusing to interact with everyone else simply because of one person. Granted, I was hoping that I could kinda get you to respond with some energy via that yelling, but I suppose that doesn't work on everyone.

Just, please don't do that again? no matter how angry Titus makes you, you can always talk to someone else. Like me. Or anyone else in the hydra. Or Cerb. 'kay?

[Titus]

I need to redo my investigation list...the last one I did presumed I was treestump and getting investigated would be fucking awesome. Now it's kinda meh. Sorting the people we can't even remember what the fuck they are doing probably takes more priority.

[God of Power Outlets]

HEY! There is only room for ONE raging hydra in this game...and it's the one with the tripoded protrusions in it's undergarments.

[Titus]

TPTG, thoughts on Lucian?

[God of Power Outlets]

He's hit or miss for us, mostly miss.

[BBmolla]

is there anything worth reading past three pages

[Boonskiies]

Nope.

[Drixx]

Nope.

Would you care to grace us with some actual content, Boonskiies? In that game where you were town and I was scum, you made a metric ton of posts, and most of them were crazy talk indecipherable. You claimed it was your town game and that there was method to your madness. Sadly, my scum buddy and I put an end to that pathetic town before you could ever get to the reveal.

So imagine how excited I was to see you on this player list so I could finally see the Boonskiies madness in play for realsies. Son, I am disappoint!

But seriously ... since you made a big show of your town game being all bounce around the thread crazy and masking a more subtle game ... that leaves me to wonder what to make of Lurksack Boonskiies. Help a brother out?

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Nope.

Such WONDROUS insight.

Care to share everything ELSE with the class?

Same with you BB. You don't even have to give reads on Lihin or Drixx or Titus. Just actually give reads on people. Preferably with at least one sentence on why.

(that's for both of you, BB and Boon.)

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

-Ivysaur.

Jeez, not hydraslipping is easy, but signing posts his hard...