We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Drixx]

Drixx thinks that players who are good can still make mistakes, especially newer players who are improving quickly. Drixx wonders if anyone actually thinks that Lucian sheeping onto the OM case against Drixx on day one was a townie action.

[Titus]

@Drixx
That is the logic I used to point to you as a good deadline lynch which you firmly rejected at the time. I don't get your cryptic Lucian read that he is better than some think wtc..., that sounds almost like you know he is scum and complimenting him for fooling me, either that or you are super confident of what I think is a bad read.

Or that he knows that Lucian is not his faction and is trying to mirror your thpught process to get you to read him as less useful. He never took a stand there.

[copper223]

@Drixx
Let me check that one out, but seriously you were not an easy townread D1, if you are basing your reads off of your wagons yesterday I think it's more likely you are the good player with the wrong read.

[LucianRoy]

Drixx thinks that players who are good can still make mistakes, especially newer players who are improving quickly. Drixx wonders if anyone actually thinks that Lucian sheeping onto the OM case against Drixx on day one was a townie action.

Om made a pretty damn good case,
And that was before you even claimed.
Also, you were looking really scummy with the whole "passiveness" day1 thing you had going. That fit nowhere in the meta of the Drixx I would expect.

[copper223]

@Drixx
That is the logic I used to point to you as a good deadline lynch which you firmly rejected at the time. I don't get your cryptic Lucian read that he is better than some think wtc..., that sounds almost like you know he is scum and complimenting him for fooling me, either that or you are super confident of what I think is a bad read.

Or that he knows that Lucian is not his faction and is trying to mirror your thpught process to get you to read him as less useful. He never took a stand there.

This could also be true.

[copper223]

Beautiful case Om. I'm really tempted to vote Drixx. You've convinced me. The PbPa doe...
You made your points as clear as day.

I actually want to hear Drixx's response before I decide. This should be good.
I haven't seen Drixx refute a solid case like this ever, so I'm currently making popcorn, and watching this showdown.

So what's terribly non-town Lucian about this?

[Titus]

Drixx thinks that players who are good can still make mistakes, especially newer players who are improving quickly. Drixx wonders if anyone actually thinks that Lucian sheeping onto the OM case against Drixx on day one was a townie action.

Om made a pretty damn good case,
And that was before you even claimed.
Also, you were looking really scummy with the whole "passiveness" day1 thing you had going. That fit nowhere in the meta of the Drixx I would expect.

Happy tears...

[copper223]

@Titus
Why do you think Bulbasaur is town?

The pirates tried to get me off both Bulba and Vyse, but in Vyse's case they had the ulterior motive of getting support for the Toon lynch from an active player, so I think BC is a likelier teamate then VP.

[Drixx]

Drixx already pointed out that OM's entire case was that Drixx was talking about himself a lot whilest ignoring that the quoted posts were all responses to direct questions. Drixx doesn't think Copper would miss how illogical it is to criticize someone for answering questions. Drixx also points and laughs at Lucian's #3403 where Lucian says OM's case was "pretty damn good" {Paraphrased}.

Drixx also points out that even if the case had been good, Lucian was still sheeping.

[God of Power Outlets]

CHRIST on a stick, Titus


There's being paranoid, then there's being ridiculous

Unless youre trying to keep your lynch options open for the future, you need to accept that you're wasting our time pursuing Lucian

If he's still alive on day 7 or whatever then talk about it, but for fucks sake. You're off the rails on some Alex Jones shit right now

While you're at it can you explain to me why Big Pharma is putting mind control stuff in our flu vaccines to cause autism?

-kuribo

[LucianRoy]

Is it bad to sheep a good case?
It's certainly bad to sheep a bad one.
Good cases are almost meant to be sheeped.

[Drixx]

Drixx thinks that players who are good can still make mistakes, especially newer players who are improving quickly. Drixx wonders if anyone actually thinks that Lucian sheeping onto the OM case against Drixx on day one was a townie action.

Om made a pretty damn good case,
And that was before you even claimed.
Also, you were looking really scummy with the whole "passiveness" day1 thing you had going. That fit nowhere in the meta of the Drixx I would expect.

Happy tears...

Drixx is going to derive an amazing amount of joy out of watching Titus eat crow when Drixx flips town. Drixx thinks there might even be some pointing and laughing and perhaps even mocking. Drixx doesn't want anyone to get the wrong idea though. Drixx doesn't hold grudges and any good natured pointing and laughing and mocking will be good natured and part of an attempt to get Titus to be more logical and rational instead of emotionally drive. Drixx notes that Titus has made many logical errors, ignored the very rational posts of many players, and has told many outright lies. Drixx is pretty sure these things aren't good play and thinks Titus can do better.

Drixx still loves you all. XOXOXO.

[copper223]

@Drixx
I remember a "snarky" comment in our other game along the lines of: wow those two are going at it, this will be fun, from Lucian in our other game and he was town, he also sheeped my reads a lot there and he didn't even vote you here after the post, just said he was waiting for the reply.

I don't see anything there that could not come from Lucian town, and as someone else said just how pumped he was to have actually killed scum with his shot is pretty town indicative to me.

[Narninian]

CHRIST on a stick, Titus


There's being paranoid, then there's being ridiculous

Unless youre trying to keep your lynch options open for the future, you need to accept that you're wasting our time pursuing Lucian

If he's still alive on day 7 or whatever then talk about it, but for fucks sake. You're off the rails on some Alex Jones shit right now

While you're at it can you explain to me why Big Pharma is putting mind control stuff in our flu vaccines to cause autism?

-kuribo

Isn't it Drixx pursuing Lucian here...?

[Titus]

@Titus
Why do you think Bulbasaur is town?

The pirates tried to get me off both Bulba and Vyse, but in Vyse's case they had the ulterior motive of getting support for the Toon lynch from an active player, so I think BC is a likelier teamate then VP.

Where did Pika want you not to lynch BC? Vyse was a possible deadline lynch to derail which is important to do because needs less evidence.


@TPTG, If you think I want Lucian lynched today, I want the drug you are on. There's a difference between not conftown and I want to lynch them.

[Drixx]

Is it bad to sheep a good case?
It's certainly bad to sheep a bad one.
Good cases are almost meant to be sheeped.

Drixx wonders what is good about a case that consists of "You talk about yourself and theory too much" when all referenced posts that make up said case are direct responses to questions by other players. Drixx thinks that even a new player like Lucian cannot possibly think that it's rational to condemn someone for answering direct questions, unless the answers are what is being pointed out as scummy. Drixx reminds Lucian and others that OM wasn't calling the responses scummy.

Drixx thinks that if people really think the OM case was good, then He wouldn't still be alive.

Drixx said that He wouldn't reward Titus for her poor behavior and would play today just to amuse himself. Drixx didn't mean to say that Lucian was scum. Drixx was trying to answer a question Copper asked that He found interesting.

[copper223]

and yes I can vouch for ivy looking horrifyingly scummy cos I lynched him on d1 and he flipped sane cop lol.

just give them a little space copper.

they are not a good d1 lynch or vig kill so get that out of your head right now

lemme explain: I watched all last year as town!mastina kept geting lynched early in the game for what I felt were dumb reasons. in 1 game kuribo fakeclaimed a guilty on mastina then fakeclaimed lyncher and town...lynched mastina. despite my screeching. I wanted serene (kuribo hydra lynched). then I watched in a game where I was scum against town!mastina and she was lynched d1...all town. no scum were gonna touch that wagon with a ten foot pole. when mastina is a really strong player it just her a while to get into the game. she also loves playing scum and complains about not rolling scum as much as she likes so her not schmoozing it up in the game thread is probs a good sign. ivy is also 1 who takes a while to get her head in the game I think and I know bulba is like that altho I don't fully understand why bulba is in here.

I don't want to interfere with your scumhunting and you drawing your own conclusions. this isn't about playing favourites its about knowing those players and knowing that it takes them a while to get their heads in the game. obvsly i am not giving them an autopass cos I have been screeching for them all game. but I like ivy's content and i feel content to leave them alone for now.

[Titus]

@Cooper, That reeks more of buddying. I wouldn't rule out scum/scum but nothing they said was false. Mastina is a strong player that takes awhile to get going.It also suggested to watch for good posting from them. If you don't see it, then scumread them.

[copper223]

@Titus
Yes that's also possible, I said so myself before Bulbazak picked some of my posts to call my read on them stale which it clearly wasn't.

[God of Power Outlets]

I mean to say Drixx rather than Titus

Starting to think that Alzheimer's might be contagious and I shouldn't post from work

[Drixx]

Drixx was just answering a question. Drixx viewed Lucian's sheeping as scummy when it happened. Drixx recalls that Lucian claimed after that and did the vig shot on the next day phase. Drixx referring to a scum read that has many reasons to be updated doesn't mean Drixx still scumreads. Drixx pointing out that if people think Lucian is scummy, there's little downside to the lynch also doesn't mean Drixx thinks that action should be taken.

Drixx asks Kuribo for advice on posting erotically in the third person since the whole Phallic angle is being covered quite sufficiently already.

[deathfisaro]

Drixx's personality splitting is a little bit concerning. Do you need... counselling?

[LucianRoy]

Hey, maybe we shouldn't lynch lihin...

[Cerberus v666]

Feels like we've had a lot of useless conversation today. Anyone voting for someone other than Lihin, other than Titus who already expressed her reasoning, why is the person you're voting for scummier than Lihin? And is Lihin a town read of yours? Why? The second question goes out to those who aren't voting as well.

[LucianRoy]

I just don't feel like lynching Lihin.
It seems like a generally solid notion that there are currently scum on his wagon. I'm not sure who, but I don't think they're bussing and/or driving his lynch to kill a scum-buddy.
Plus, he hasn't even put up a fight. He's too much of an easy lynch to be considered a good lynch, and his lack of defense, even after he claimed, seems like a good reason for the scum to step in and take advantage of his situation.
I don't necessarily read lihin as town, but I don't like some of the votes on his wagon. That's why I don't think he's the best option for today.