We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Drixx]

@Drixx
Does this attempt to wall me out of the game, sans the not so subtle threat to continue doing so until I'm dead or confirmed town, notice the phrasing that does not include me flipping scum, remind you of someone?

Drixx actually used logic and real stuff from the thread to paint the narrative that you were scum in that game. Drixx has no idea what sort of planet one must come from to put up those repetitive junk posts that he just had to wade through. Drixx resents Copper for the comparison, frankly.

[copper223]

@Bulba
I have been re-reading your stuff and while I disagree with a lot of what the Bulbazak head is saying, I don't think it's necessarily scum indicative, especially if Vyse is town. I am less impressed by Ivy's content.

I don't want scum to have an easy mislynch available in case you are town so this is where I am at.

@Drixx

[Titus]

People trying to use wagon mechanics in a multiball game are not going to be very successful. A scumteam of 3 members is not going to be able to swing the momentum of a wagon off of a teammate when 20+ are in the game.

If I am alive on Day 5, fucking watch me.

[BBmolla]

Bulbasaur stop fucking walling, it's anti town.

[BBmolla]

Why didn't we lynch Orange

Serious responses please

[Oranje Crush]

Because I'm town.
BBmolla, my role is confirmable to a certain extent. When I get more abilities I'll be able to claim them and prove them.
You've only mentioned my claim as scum, however it's confirmable and already semi-confirmed by mollie.

[Oranje Crush]

Why else am I scum?
Apart from the pushed a town lynch.

[BBmolla]

Your play screams "everyone look how town I am!" which I would not expect if you were actually town.

[Oranje Crush]

But I'm saying I expect people to lynch me tommorow because I pushed town.

[VysePresident]

So, I'm not going to quote for the sake of minimizing walling, and getting this over with so I can get to bed. I'll catch up if anything needs clarification tomorrow.

-Copper, what changed your perception after the IRL posts? Why are you only just now considering the possibility that we have two different styles?

-Which points of my thoughts seem too 'subjective' to be answered by you? Why did you jump straight to dismissing them & scumreading me instead of pushing me to elaborate, or otherwise trying to get them clarified? I'm not going to write another full case for you until you start offering specifics to me. It's irritating enough writing a wall for nobody to read once, let alone as many times as I have.

-Likewise, if you feel my scumread on you is unfair, run through the specific points you find problematic rather than dismissing them as a whole. I guarantee you, right or wrong, this is not some magical gut feeling. Seriously, why do you think I'd push to lynch you if I didn't have a scumread on you? Believe me, you're not worth the frustration. It's not like all of the other lynchable guys out there can be my buddies.

-As someone who highly values objectivity, I think I can say that the objectivity you're looking for is just about impossible in this game. That doesn't make it a worthless goal to strive for, but at some point, things will have to be based on on'es perception & understanding. That goes for your reads as much as the next person's, and I think it's not that hard to see you doing it yourself, if you look back. So far, my style has worked out pretty darn well for finding scum. I don't appreciate getting dismissed out of hand, nor the constantly moving goalposts.

-I'd appreciate you explaining how your read me has evolved over the course of the game, and why. There's a lot I want to look at here, come next phase.

-It's getting bright outside. Catch you all next phase, everything permitting.

[Cuttlefish]

It is now night two. Day two begins in (expired on 2015-03-28 09:32:00). If you have not yet sent in a night action, please do so now.

[Cuttlefish]

copper223

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Town Facebooker

- Eviscerated night two.

VysePresident

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Tropical Volcano Lair Mafia ???

- Incinerated night two.

BRantz has returned to the game.

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Vote Count 3.00

Not Voting (18)

: Narninian, Toon Fighter, Oranje Crush, Ozgin, ActionDan, Three-Pronged Trouser God, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, ChriVi, Boonskiies, Drixx, PeregrineV, vonflare, Cerberus v666, BRantz, LucianRoy, deathfisaro, Om of the Nom, Titus, BBmolla

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

[vonflare]

I'm back!

[Oranje Crush]

And yes, there are two factions, but who here has heard of a scum commuter?

I saw a scum hider once as a check to an SK.

Oh yeah this is Broseidon, aka the not-VI head.

[deathfisaro]

copper223

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Town Facebooker

- Eviscerated night two.

VysePresident

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Tropical Volcano Lair Mafia ???

- Incinerated night two.

BRantz has returned to the game.

Initial thought: lol that's hilarious
Second thought: wait, what's up with three question marks

[Oranje Crush]

Have you never seen a concealed flip?

His role/something on their team made him not reveal on flip, Berlin-scum have a janitor, etc.

[Oranje Crush]

Also reading the Titus/Drixx pissing contest and I'm like 95% sure Titus is town here. Drixx I'm null on.

[deathfisaro]

Ohhhhh I thought it was a bastard thing like "Vanilla Townie???"
Yeah I've never seen a concealed flip. I've read about death miller on the wiki but this is new.

[Oranje Crush]

Also why is kuribo-hydra still alive as a claimed mason.

[LucianRoy]

That's pretty Ironic.
The question marks probably mean he got swept. As in, janitor swept.

[Oranje Crush]

Also, if I stop being lazy I'll go dig up some Vyse-meta for how he interacts with his scum buddies. I think he has 1-2 scum games on our home site.

[Titus]

Also why is kuribo-hydra still alive as a claimed mason.

I think the answer to that is the same as why a Volcano got incinerated .

That should be explained by someone who has already claimed though.

I am more shocked why the other faction shot Cooper.

Still thinking TPTG could be undercity.

[Titus]

Also, if I stop being lazy I'll go dig up some Vyse-meta for how he interacts with his scum buddies. I think he has 1-2 scum games on our home site.

What is your home site?

Also kinda glad I let Vyse talk yesterday.

[Oranje Crush]

Vyse scumgames from home site:

http://s10.zetaboards.com/SOTF_V2/topic/7529968/1/
http://s10.zetaboards.com/SOTF_V2/topic/7524093/1/

[LucianRoy]

So, who thinks both of these kills were targets from each mafia faction?
At first glance, I'd say BU faction targeted Vyse, and Tropical faction targeted copper, for obviousness implied.
Also, I think it's safe to rule out an SK at this point.
Now that there are two flips, each from the opposite faction, it should be way easier to look back and determine who was doing what, and why.