If I didn't care way too much about what people thought of me, I'd be bumbling like an idiot too!
My understanding is that Titus is concerned about Alquin being important because he limits the number of unmakes/kill attempts the scum can make. I might be missing something, but I'm not super scared about bane possibly revealing Alquin, nor do I see any super good reason why we can't discuss it as long as Alquin doesn't stand on top of a mountain shouting out his name or something.
PEdit: That's his current avatar and I didn't know how to find the other one. Plus, inner cuteness and all that jazz.
With 20 votes in play, it takes 11 to Bane or Choose. Deadline is Sunday, April 5th at 9 PM CST.
"Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop
↑DeasVail wrote:If I didn't care way too much about what people thought of me, I'd be bumbling like an idiot too!
My understanding is that Titus is concerned about Alquin being important because he limits the number of unmakes/kill attempts the scum can make. I might be missing something, but I'm not super scared about bane possibly revealing Alquin, nor do I see any super good reason why we can't discuss it as long as Alquin doesn't stand on top of a mountain shouting out his name or something.
PEdit: That's his current avatar and I didn't know how to find the other one. Plus, inner cuteness and all that jazz.
This, which is why I am confused by Tammy and Cheetory's posts.
I have deduced the following:
1) baning gives us limited information while limiting the number of players scum have to search through thus eventually increasing KPN.
2) Two doctors reduces KPN but does not confirm which if any were blocked. This reduces KPN but info as well.
3) The game without signs is incredibly townsided, otherwise KPN being so high is off.
Given 1 and 2, two docs no baning seems to be the way to go. No information given and multiple protections in the early game are goid.
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
I second Llamarble's point wrt Espeonage taking a scum token: I think he does have a strong preference for scum, I think he asked to use a token, and I'm not sure anyone from the team would actually stop him from doing so. The only real defenses I could see coming from the slot would be: "I did use a scum token, didn't get scum" or "Psyche ran the numbers and made me take a town token instead", both of which are still pretty weak. Tammy was the person who told me about Espeonage's scum preference in the first place, so would probably ask her specifically what she thinks of it.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
↑DeasVail wrote:If I didn't care way too much about what people thought of me, I'd be bumbling like an idiot too!
My understanding is that Titus is concerned about Alquin being important because he limits the number of unmakes/kill attempts the scum can make. I might be missing something, but I'm not super scared about bane possibly revealing Alquin, nor do I see any super good reason why we can't discuss it as long as Alquin doesn't stand on top of a mountain shouting out his name or something.
PEdit: That's his current avatar and I didn't know how to find the other one. Plus, inner cuteness and all that jazz.
This, which is why I am confused by Tammy and Cheetory's posts.
I have deduced the following:
1) baning gives us limited information while limiting the number of players scum have to search through thus eventually increasing KPN.
2) Two doctors reduces KPN but does not confirm which if any were blocked. This reduces KPN but info as well.
3) The game without signs is incredibly townsided, otherwise KPN being so high is off.
Given 1 and 2, two docs no baning seems to be the way to go. No information given and multiple protections in the early game are goid.
I don't know what's confusing abut me not wanting you to keep talking about Alcuin and the candle stuff.
↑DeasVail wrote:If I didn't care way too much about what people thought of me, I'd be bumbling like an idiot too!
My understanding is that Titus is concerned about Alquin being important because he limits the number of unmakes/kill attempts the scum can make. I might be missing something, but I'm not super scared about bane possibly revealing Alquin, nor do I see any super good reason why we can't discuss it as long as Alquin doesn't stand on top of a mountain shouting out his name or something.
PEdit: That's his current avatar and I didn't know how to find the other one. Plus, inner cuteness and all that jazz.
Well I mean I doubt we can bane Alcuin anyway. The discussion itself narrows down enough between role and sign, and it's baffling to me that someone arguing against baning because it outs ones sign and does scum's job for them is actively promoting a conversation that does that very thing.
It keeps autocorrecting Alcuin. I know we're not talking about the medieval English guy.
Also, Alcuin's job is not to act scummy and anyone who acts scummy just to avoid a nightkill is doing it wrong. It's no different than any other pr.
Also I doubt very seriously kills are going to go by oh we think he's alcuin, let's get him. That would be pretty poor play anyway that probably wouldn't net scum very much reward. Considering we're all playing as a team, I'd imagine the threat of the team as a whole is going to play into night kill choices at a pretty decent level.
And that's the last thing I'll say about Alcuin though!
Locking the thread for a moment. Stand by for further information.
"Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop
Nacho posted a post meant for his team's PT in this thread instead. Unfortunately, this confirms fferyllt as town.
However, we don't want to do anything overly punitive because it was clearly an oversight, and because the person being punished isn't the person who caused the problem.
Thus, we are electing to do the following:
1. fferyllt's slot is dead in this game. She has no vote, and does not exist for the purpose of the Creation or Annihilation win conditions.
2. I am posting her role PM in it's entirety. Note that in general the signs of dead players do NOT flip unless they have an ability that makes it so; hers is posted here only because of the specific situation.
3. fferyllt may continue to post in this thread and communicate with her team, as normal.
4. fferyllt may not take or be targeted by any Minor or Major actions,
with one exception:
Annihilation may target her with Unmake. An unmake on fferyllt cannot be tracked, blocked, etc.
and she will die at the end of Major Day One (amendment circa post 211).
5. Gestalt will count the game as a win or loss depending on the outcome, as normal.
6. In the event that Team Mafia's outcome is decided by tiebreaker, Gestalt will be assessed a one-point penalty for the tiebreaker.
Let me know
via PM
if you have any questions or concerns about this decision.
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"Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to Bane or Choose. Deadline is Sunday, April 5th at 9 PM CST.
"Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop
So, Trojan horse thinks we should either no bane (but that also means no boon), try to hit scum with bane, or have a vanilla townie volunteer to be banned so we don't accidentally bane a pr.
We're also leaning to choice two. Still waiting to hear from others.
team thinks espy is the most likely player to have waged scum tokens into this setup... regfan met him irl and apparently he couldn't stop talking about how much he loves being scum and all these evil mustache twirling plans he had in mind for future scum games, so...
Hi zar!
I just realized your team name has a flaw. While empire is a member of westeros, he hasn't actually played a game there. That should be rectified before team mafia is done with, so at least you'll have some truth in advertising.
Hi Tammy! I'm curious though. How come you addressed me but had nothing on my team's shared collective wisdom regarding espeonage?
I also kinda want to pick
CDB
's brain (or maybe your team's collective brain), about the things you've guys talked about. Mostly, why did you make a post saying you guys discussed theory but didn't make mention of any theory?
I'd prefer to use bane as a scum vote. Otherwise, I really don't see the point in using it. As for the protects, I'm not sure. I can see the pros and cons for both. I'm conferring with my team about what they think the best course of action is, although I'd really appreciate discussion on the subject that doesn't devolve into PR fishing.
Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.
team thinks espy is the most likely player to have waged scum tokens into this setup... regfan met him irl and apparently he couldn't stop talking about how much he loves being scum and all these evil mustache twirling plans he had in mind for future scum games, so...
Hi zar!
I just realized your team name has a flaw. While empire is a member of westeros, he hasn't actually played a game there. That should be rectified before team mafia is done with, so at least you'll have some truth in advertising.
Hi Tammy! I'm curious though. How come you addressed me but had nothing on my team's shared collective wisdom regarding espeonage?
I also kinda want to pick
CDB
's brain (or maybe your team's collective brain), about the things you've guys talked about. Mostly, why did you make a post saying you guys discussed theory but didn't make mention of any theory?
I'm interested in espy's response to that first.
My team mates talked about how best to use my role, and the conversation has been about that.
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
Um, actually we decided to use all of our tokens on Empire and Regfan... I'm kinda surprised you wouldn't expect that from our team, it seems like something you would know?
What do you think I'm supposed to know? You like scum. Empire and Regfan like town. Why wouldn't I think you could have used a token or two to attempt to get scum. There were five tokens. Why do you think I'd know how you guys decided to work them out.
Plus, inner cuteness and all that jazz.
