Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Tammy]

Zar/shadoweh/Cdb/ut 2015

[Titus]

Yeah I"m not fond of UT atm either.

I want to leave a strong townbloc behind when I drop dead. I'm thinking about how to go about that.

Zar who is Empire townreading?

Empire is townreading Cheetory and ActionDan by way of actually posting.

As opposed to his magic eight ball?

I think that means townread because they are not lurking...

[Zar]

Your random claim in 119?

[Zar]

I think that means townread because they are not lurking..

pretty much, yes.

[Titus]

I mean I totally get no matter what empire is going to trash me in your pt, but I don't see how that's relevant to the game.

Ewwww...This reads like you are expecting scumreads. I am used to you obvtowning and everyone knowing it. So why would you expect scumreads or Empire's teammate to take him seriously?

[Shadoweh]

The mechanics in serum and steel were different, also we were talking on skype because we were a hydra.
Grey says TSO is town with a superbold, and agrees Zar is superfluffposting. He also wants to policy Dan but Dan is my favorite so no.
I still want to powerbane Mastin and am looking forward to walls about it!

I would also like to make a post without being cut by Tammy. I could have posted this five minutes ago ;_;

[Tammy]

Gotta keep in character, I guess? ##

Vote: tammy

.

btw, my

circlejerk

team thinks espy is the most likely player to have waged scum tokens into this setup... regfan met him irl and apparently he couldn't stop talking about how much he loves being scum and all these evil mustache twirling plans he had in mind for future scum games, so...

Hi zar!

I just realized your team name has a flaw. While empire is a member of westeros, he hasn't actually played a game there. That should be rectified before team mafia is done with, so at least you'll have some truth in advertising.

Hi Tammy! I'm curious though. How come you addressed me but had nothing on my team's shared collective wisdom regarding espeonage?

I also kinda want to pick

CDB

's brain (or maybe your team's collective brain), about the things you've guys talked about. Mostly, why did you make a post saying you guys discussed theory but didn't make mention of any theory?

I'm interested in espy's response to that first.

My team mates talked about how best to use my role, and the conversation has been about that.

Yu asked me what theory I discussed. What we discussed pertains to my role, I didn't say what my role is and considering EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO SOMETHING, we discussed how to use either my special role or what EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TOO.

fish more, scumbag.

[Tammy]

I mean I totally get no matter what empire is going to trash me in your pt, but I don't see how that's relevant to the game.

Ewwww...This reads like you are expecting scumreads. I am used to you obvtowning and everyone knowing it. So why would you expect scumreads or Empire's teammate to take him seriously?

You are confusing bring trash talked with being scum read.

I perfectly expect empire to trash the shit out of me even though he's town reading me.

[Cheetory6]

(and can confirm Ffery that Advance Wars is what Ceph was talking about in our PT)

I feel like Ceph is comparing my replacegame to my earlygame which is kind of unfair. q.q Although maybe there's more to it than that? Unless he really wants Deas to engage me on that, I'm not really sure I want to get too caught up on a self-centered meta discussion.

Empire is townreading Cheetory and ActionDan by way of actually posting.

Eh? Are you saying he's townreading us because we're actually making posts? Or am I just misunderstanding?

@Tammy

, why the hostility towards Zar? o.o I feel like that came out of no where.

even if you've had at least one with me, you would know that I'm always tempted to shitpost as either alignment

Dood. Is what I said. Read my post again.

P-Edit: Holy post storm batman.

[Marquis]

The annoying thing about protection in this set-up is that you have no idea whether you actually stopped someone from being killed or not. It could have been some sort of roleblock, or the scum not knowing how to tell the difference between candle and stone or some other weird complicated theme thing. The great thing about choice 1 though, is that the successfully protected person is informed of the fact that they were successfully protected! Now the first thought from this is that scum can just claim to have been successfully protected ----> TOTES CONFTOWN, but this carries a great degree of risk for scum, because you know, someone actually needs to have protected you for you to have been successfully protected. I'm pretty sure there's quite a low chance that scum making up the fact that they'd been protected would have happened to be protected that night, so chances are scum are going to be all cowardly and cautious and not make up anything. But this means that town who have actually been successfully protected can claim so, and thus be pretty certainly town, especially since there'll be someone alive who in fact did protect them, which sort of helps matters.

Without Choice 1, we'll have no idea what even happened at night due to the complicated nature of the theme.

When I look at Choice 2 I just find it incredibly underwhelming. I mean, sure, if scum try to kill this protected person with two people it makes a difference, but I figure that if scum are desperate enough to have someone dead that they'd kill them twice, choice 2 will just mean they'll kill them three times. So, the difference doesn't seem that great to me?

As I said though, this is only my opinion and I very well could be missing some disadvantage to choice 1 or some benefit to choice 2. If such things exist, don't hold back!

This is exactly what I think! Choice 1 is better because no matter what the decision is, all will be the same and scum will either think someone will be protected or not be protected and target with either a massive number of kill targets or just one, with no in-between! So unlike Choice 2, if Choice 1 is selected, it actually has a chance of being useful if the latter scenario occurs (which it probably will with the 16:4 ratio)!

Thank you again DeasVail for using lots of words and phrases that accurately represent my current mindset! I only wish others could be just as on point and best friend forever-ly as you are!

[Marquis]

even if you've had at least one with me, you would know that I'm always tempted to shitpost as either alignment

Dood. Is what I said. Read my post again.

Oops! My bad! I missed the "don't" in "don't think"!

Why did you edit the parts with exclamation points out of my post!? That wasn't very nice!

[hitogoroshi]

VC 10 (Minor Day 1, VC 10)

Bane:

Target player's Sign is revealed.

(2)

Gammagooey:

ActionDan, vezokpiraka [L-8]
(2)

ChannelDelibird:

Cheetory6, Titus [L-8]
(2)

Titus:

ChannelDelibird, T S O
(1)

No Bane:

GuyInFreezer
(1)

GuyInFreezer:

Marquis
(1)

Cheetory6:

Bulbazak
(1)

Untrod Tripod:

DeasVail
(1)

Mastin2:

Shadoweh
(1)

Marquis:

Gammagooey
(1)

Zar

: Tammy
(0)

Shadoweh:

(Tammy)

(6)

No Bane Vote:

Antihero, Aronis, Espeonage, Mastin2, Untrod Tripod, Zar

Choice:

Should protection stop

one

kill, but inform players when a kill on them was prevented; or

two

kills, without this information?

(8)

One:

ChannelDelibird, ActionDan, vezokpiraka, GuyInFreezer, Marquis, DeasVail, Shadoweh, Titus [L-2]
(4)

Two:

Gammagooey, Untrod Tripod, Cheetory6, T S O

(7)

No Choice Vote:

Antihero, Aronis, Bulbazak, Espeonage, Mastin2, Tammy, Zar

With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to Bane or Choose. Deadline is Sunday, April 5th at 9 PM CST.

Minor Day One Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-05 21:00:00)

Antihero is V/LA until March 31st.

[Titus]

Kinda surprised Mastina is not here yet.

Don't know who Grey is but I would like to see why he thinks Zar is fluffing. I like his posting. He's not overstating anything.


@Tammy, ok... I wil make a note to discuss that wiyh my teammates because that sounds fake but I know reading people is weak for me.

@Marquis, I cannot tell if that's a buddying smile or if you are happy to see DV.

[Cheetory6]

Oops My bad I missed the "don't" in "don't think"

Why did you edit the parts with exclamation points out of my post? That wasn't very nice

I will do this from now on to spite you.

[DeasVail]

I skimmed over this before, but would like to say that I very much enjoyed you as a player in our last game and while you are free to play in whichever way you like, your usual incessant talking and "shitposting" is cool too!

Thank you, DeasVail! I enjoyed your play that game as well; it was minimally offensive, which made sense with you being SK in the end! I hope we can continue to buddy each other in this game without having to worry about you trying to pull the same tricks again!

This indeed won't be necessary unless you are scum. And I do have a ridiculously strong townread on you right now which I'm not sure is that rational, so hopefully not!

[Cheetory6]

(Empire thinks reading your angry posts is funny).

Nevermind. Just saw this. Tammy being angry feels less weird now.

[Titus]

Can we get a hammer on choice 1 so we can focus on baning? The argument for choice two just fell away so...

[Zar]

Eh? Are you saying he's townreading us because we're actually making posts? Or am I just misunderstanding?

He's townreading ActionDan's for actually showing up and posting.

[Marquis]

Yeah, I know, and those people should be able to tell you I'm hilariously toen by now.

Yes, Tammy is very very toen! She's even hilariously toen!

In other news, I still can't decide what the best way to use the Bane is! The Choice is an easy one, but then protection on a specific target enters the equation again for the Bane but this time versus the cons of giving scum an easy target and the other option of a scummier target and being able to anchor investigatives and whatnot to that!

Of course, I would vote no Bane if it didn't mean we didn't get to use a Boon! I definitely want to go through with it at least today, but I'm just worried this is one of those things where the current "bad news" is significantly more impactful than the exaggerated later "good news"! I'm trying to think of a positive effect that's similar in both sphere of effect and power to the Bane and Choice we have now, but coming up short!

[Tammy]

(Empire thinks reading your angry posts is funny).

Nevermind. Just saw this. Tammy being angry feels less weird now.

Yes, and titus, this is what I'm referring to.

Not only is a supposed friend trash talking me in a qt, again, but zar did this in lieu of actually talking about what they're discussing as a means of getting me upset so he could avoid the fact that he is scum and they are not actually discussing anything.

But no one will believe me about this anyway, so whatever.

[Titus]

@Marquis, That's how I feel about bane/no bane but my team has told me that ship sailed. What do you think of baning Mastina?

@Tammy, that's making more sense. ABR is also telling me to lay off a bit so...

[Tammy]

If they were actually discussing things, there would be an explanation about whether my anger was misplaced or correctly placed, but it was just thrown out there as a means of putting me down.

[Zar]

FTR Tammy, a singular throwaway comment about how you're funny sometimes when you're mad is not "trashing the shit" out of you.

[Zar]

and that's Empire's message I'm delivering

[DeasVail]

I feel like Ceph is comparing my replacegame to my earlygame which is kind of unfair. q.q Although maybe there's more to it than that? Unless he really wants Deas to engage me on that, I'm not really sure I want to get too caught up on a self-centered meta discussion.

It's not a huge focus of mine right now, so there's probably no need at the moment. I'll let you know if Ceph has any questions for you though.