Corpse Party Mafia [WRONG END]

[White Narcissus]

Its possible he saw the unread symbol in the PT and decided to snoop around without really expecting to see anything and just saw that.

And no, this doesn't make any sense. He is a newbie, this is his first game, he doesn't even know what pts are, there is no justifying "I shouldn't be here". This indicates he knows what pts are and knowledge of when someone is supposed to see them.

~Wis

[Thor and Loki]

Huntress's push on Zymf seems a bit lacking for someone who believes they caught a scumclaim. Other content is pretty decently lacking, it doesn't excite me in any special way and her trend towards lufan seems like just going with the flow.

That would be because I'm not actually pushing Zymf for now. I was more or less satisfied with the responses on that so have put it on the back burner for the moment.

Lufan ignored my question to him so I needed to follow that up and after looking at it myself I agreed with the the point about the PT. My other scum reads defending him adds to the suspicion there.

I didn't like how you pushed it originally.

Why is the PT point valid?

[Thor and Loki]

Its possible he saw the unread symbol in the PT and decided to snoop around without really expecting to see anything and just saw that.

And no, this doesn't make any sense. He is a newbie, this is his first game, he doesn't even know what pts are, there is no justifying "I shouldn't be here". This indicates he knows what pts are and knowledge of when someone is supposed to see them.

~Wis

They're called private topics.

[Thor and Loki]

He opens up a private topic, and it's clearly not a game. it's not an unreasonable line of thought to go "oh, this is weird, I probably shouldn't be here".

[Thor and Loki]

Also, Huntress: what about those responses satisfied you?

[White Narcissus]

My other scum reads defending him adds to the suspicion there.

You've yet to explain those other scumreads.

~Wis

[SXTLHGaiden]

soooo, why are we not hyper lynching?

[Mikazuki]

@Thorki: That's fair enough. But it still gives me a bad feeling because of my last game. Also, I still am unsure how he managed to get a town read/lean on lufan in the first place and why he feels the need to defend lufan at all. And, if he thought the PT post was nothing, I don't quite get why he brought it up in this thread at all.

WOW you guys post fast. I'm on my phone now so please excuse me if I fall behind a bit.

[White Narcissus]

I don't see anything wrong with this as an early read. I really don't see why it's unreasonable to disagree with your push at that point.

Explain to me why someone thinks 288 comes from town

Explain to me why this defense is so awkward and so shrouded in wishy-washiness

~Wis

[Thor and Loki]

Every game is different, so "this scenario is vaguely similar to something that happened in a different game" shouldn't be a thought that guides you past page one. I don't think a town lean on lufan is unreasonable. I don't understand why you do! I think the PT post was good information to bring into the thread regardless of whether you agree with a possible conclusion made there or not: why do you think it was scummy?

[White Narcissus]

They're called private topics.

And? How does that make a newbie feel guilty for seeing one of them to the extent he has to post in them to check if there's been a mistake?
You're really stretching this when it's obvious how things went down.

~Wis

[Thor and Loki]

I don't see anything wrong with this as an early read. I really don't see why it's unreasonable to disagree with your push at that point.

Explain to me why someone thinks 288 comes from town

Explain to me why this defense is so awkward and so shrouded in wishy-washiness

~Wis

If you're going to refer me to a post, link it because scrolling on mobile is a bitch.

If yours referring to a defense as awkward and wishwashy, I'm guessing you're noting an argument that's fairly reasonable and takes into account counterarguments, which is reasonable if your initial read isn't very strong.

[White Narcissus]

I'm also on mobile that's why I'm not linking

I have no idea what you just said. His lufan defense was a bunch of bullshit and has no town motivation whatsoever.

~Wis

[White Narcissus]

Even without that, I was already talking to Wis that I didn't like his posting, he just went and found that and told me.

I didn't like Zelink's defense of him either (There's nothing towny in a wishy washy post), Zelink's read progression seems to be to townread everyone and everything, and he still had his pseudo vote on Thor/Loki at the time, but with all the ammount of townreads he had i thought he'd be wanting to PoE, but then I thought his vote on T/L didnt make sense, That combined with a defense of someone that people should at most be null on made me think that they are probably both scum and he's defending him because he's Sachiko, this was quite a lot of speculation on my part. So I thought Zelink was faking townreads, which is why I asked him for his reads, then he said he wanted to talk to T/L first... while that makes sense for his read with T/L it doesnt clear why he wouldn't want to show any other reads, which made me to think that T/L was scum as well (it has Nacho, it wouldn't surprise me if Scum-Nacho wouldn't try to guide his teammate... specially when he's somewhat newbie), and combined with us thinking scum has daytalk, it would make lots of sense on him asking a scummate on help faking the reads.

~Sakura

[Thor and Loki]

that post demonstrates original thought and a transparent thought process.

[Thor and Loki]

288

[Mikazuki]

@Thorki I don't think it's scummy, I wonder why he would bring it up at all if he did not see it as a problem.

@Anka I already explained why I would choose him to policy lynch. When a policy lynch seems appropriate and my read could still go either way pending answers/most posts, I will consider PL as my main reason for voting.

[Thor and Loki]

[Post] tags still work and are easy as shit to type.

[Thor and Loki]

@Thorki I don't think it's scummy, I wonder why he would bring it up at all if he did not see it as a problem.

@Anka I already explained why I would choose him to policy lynch. When a policy lynch seems appropriate and my read could still go either way pending answers/most posts, I will consider PL as my main reason for voting.

It's information. It's clearly a possible problem. Why not bring it up?

[White Narcissus]

Or its just him wanting to prevent a wagon on lufan from starting

~Wis

[Thor and Loki]

"There's nothing townie about a wishy-washy post" - This is wrong.

[Thor and Loki]

His defense has possible scum motivation if lufan is scum. It hasn't been unreasonable and it hasn't been bullshit unless you believe it's impossible to be leaning town on a player which is a really bad view to have in 99% of the games on this site.

[White Narcissus]

Okay. Want to continue this discussion after lufan flips? It's simply impossible to discuss this when we practically consider lufan confscum while you aren't.

~Wis

[Mikazuki]

@Thorki Because he did not treat it like it's a problem? 592 suggests to me that he pretty much dismissed it as just a newbie move.

[White Narcissus]

it's impossible to be leaning town on a player which is a really bad view to have in 99% of the games on this site.

This is false, the only stance lufan had was notscience, which was a wishy-washy one, while everyone else seemed to think he had a scumread there, it was fairly obvious he had a wishy-washy stance just by adding the "but it could be in my head" thing.
In addition (to the generalized statement) A player who has posted only fluff, id agree it's impossible to have a townread/lean on.
So where are you getting this that's a bad view to believe it's impossible to have a town lean on a player in 99% of the games in the site?
~Sakura