Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Titus]

I'm confused by people talking about the boon though, we already voted on the Boon didn't we? We're just Baning to make sure we get it?

We can't elect who gets a Boon until we bane someone. It's the rules.

[Tammy]

I don't have all your games memorized!

Regarding Regfan's points:

1) Yes, I dislike day one, but I do things at my own pace and often feel things out in the first pages of the game and don't really do anything unless my interest gets sparked/I see something I want to push. I wasn't interested in dealing with reads that day and said so. I could have very very easily gone v/la at the start of the game or posted and said I'd be back on Tuesday because I had to turn my dissertation in. Like I had to submit my dissertation to the school for manuscript clearance on Monday, then add in the stuff for my committee so I can defend and graduate. It was important to me though to try to figure out the mechanics of the game because I literally don't until I see it in action. But, I literally said more than once I wasn't dealing with reads until I finished what I had to get done. Trying to understand the mechanics at that point was more important to me especially considering I tend to roll around my reads for a bit anyway.

2) I have no idea why me thinking that someone who likes scum could have put tokens on scum is discrediting them.

3) I have no idea what reaction I was supposed to have or why it makes me scum that I didn't react. If you look in the thread, I was online and posting when Nacho made his accidental post. I responded to that. I tried to make a post about the choices when the thread was locked. I knew exactly why the thread was locked and had already run through the possibilities of what hito would choose to do with that. I was thinking either modkill or make her an IC, so when the thread opened it was already along the lines of what I expected to happen. My private reaction was that it sucked since she'd dies soon but at least it wasn't a modkill and selfishly that I wouldn't be paranoid of her and maybe we'd be able to work together like we've been trying to figure out how to do for the past few games. (Side note: Oversoul told me I'd need to pay special attention to Nacho because he was probably scum for knowing ffery was town :p)

Pedit: titus - I'm still concerned about Empire, but I'm not 100% like I was before. Also, my marquis suspicion earlier, which was based on something wrong, made me feel like he was scum and backing my push. I also worried about Shadoweh's jump on and then off of Zar/Empire, so. Also, there's something else I'm toying with but that will wait for a minute.

[Shadoweh]

You just want to irritate me by proving me wrong, don't you? <_<

Yes, I looked it up, so let's go on the Baning. Tammy c'mon. Argue with Empire tomorrow. Who are we Baning today so you can primadonna about why you should get a sexy boon?

[Titus]

@Shadoweh, I'll move later tonight. The reactions on this need to be processed a little more slowly.

Right now, I'm leaning towards baning Bulba just to prove I'm right but I shouldn't let pride be a motivating factor. I should stick with the facts.

@Tammy, I agree with point 2, which is why I explained to Ffery why I picked town. I didn't feel it was discrediting to factor in people's assumed preferences. It's wifom and not very useful from my perspective but not discrediting. If that same point came up as a disarm to an argument, I'd have a totally different feel about it.

[Tammy]

Shadoweh - I'm not entirely sure right this minute. But I'm hoping my dark horse will show up and give me something to go on tonight!

[Shadoweh]

Why won't you Bane Bulba with me? Bulba is a wallposter, his quotestrip with Deasvail has nothing to do with game alignments. He reminds me of Desperado from such films as being my obvious scumpartner.

[Titus]

Shadoweh, I'll Bane Bulba with you. I've decided it. Fuck it. No evidence just go with emotion and damn it I want to be right. We also need to get onto booning.

Bane:Bulba

[vezokpiraka]

I feel much better about gg after his lasts few posts.

unbane
bane bulbazak

[Empire]

I'm going to head off to sleep because I haven't been feeling super well today in general, but Tammy, I'll respond to your post more fully tomorrow and I'll relay whatever Regfan has in response as well.

One thing I will say, though, regarding the Nacho/ffery situation: when Nacho posted, me and my team pretty much immediately spotted it and were furious. I honestly believed ffery was going to get modkilled. So I guess I expected something a bit more extreme to manifest itself in the thread as opposed to outside of it.

[Titus]

I'm going to head off to sleep because I haven't been feeling super well today in general, but Tammy, I'll respond to your post more fully tomorrow and I'll relay whatever Regfan has in response as well.

One thing I will say, though, regarding the Nacho/ffery situation: when Nacho posted, me and my team pretty much immediately spotted it and were furious. I honestly believed ffery was going to get modkilled. So I guess I expected something a bit more extreme to manifest itself in the thread as opposed to outside of it.

Why did you expect a more extreme reaction? An extreme reaction would have outed scum no?

[Empire]

No. My expectation at the time was that Tammy-town would have had some sort of "super upset" reaction and not the smiley in #105.

[Tammy]

Why wouldn't my reaction be kind of a speechless, hrm, what reaction that would be encapsulated in an emoticon.

I don't know why I'd be "super upset" over something that was clearly a mistake.

Oh, and I forgot to respond but concerning the team consensus on banning. What I relayed were Trojan Horse's thoughts on the bane thing which he had considered and reconsidered. Neither of my other teammates were here that day. As far as Sunday was concerned, I was considering the bane wagon an rvs wagon. Quite frankly, I'm still considering what I think is best for banning right now.

[hitogoroshi]

VC 26 (Minor Day 1, VC 26)

Bane:

Target player's Sign is revealed.

(6)

Bulbazak:

DeasVail, Gammagooey, Shadoweh, Cheetory6, Titus, vezokpiraka [L-4]
(3)

Empire

: Bulbazak, GuyInFreezer, Marquis

(Titus, Untrod Tripod)

(3)

vezokpiraka:

T S O, ChannelDelibird, Untrod Tripod
(2)

Gammagooey:

ActionDan, Empire

(vezokpiraka)

(1)

Titus:

mastin2

(4)

No Bane Vote:

Aronis, Espeonage, TellTaleHeart, Tammy

(Titus)

With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to Bane. Deadline is Sunday, April 5th at 9 PM CST.

Minor Day One Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-05 21:00:00)

mastin2 may be V/LA in the near future.

[Titus]

I was kinda wondering whether Tammy was smiling at Nacho or Ffery's comment about posting later. It's clear from her post replies she was reading backwards. She does the smile, then hits 102 and then 98. If it happened to be a delayed reaction, then why wouldn't she actually stop the reply train and give a more detailed reaction?

I can kinda see what you mean but ugh not my field.

Has she ever had an understated reaction as scum before?

[Tammy]

What's hilarious is the person I was "supposed" to deliver some great reaction to isn't concerned at all. That probably means something. Not sure yet, but I'm sure something! Might mean they understand me better; that's just a guess though.

[Titus]

Conftown doesn't mean confright. Sure FFery has an inherent credibility bonus in that she didn't find the reaction that big a deal, but that's because she's known town. Empire isn't. By looking at his arguments, I can understand him and Ffery can tell me if it's ridiculous. No point in cutting off investigation because Ffery didn't comment. No one comments on every post.

I like him walking through the thought process step by step. If you are town, there will be a fallacy somewhere.

[GuyInFreezer]

:shrugs:

Bane: Bulba

Stuff tomorrow

[Tammy]

Conftown doesn't mean confright. Sure FFery has an inherent credibility bonus in that she didn't find the reaction that big a deal, but that's because she's known town. Empire isn't. By looking at his arguments, I can understand him and Ffery can tell me if it's ridiculous. No point in cutting off investigation because Ffery didn't comment. No one comments on every post.

I like him walking through the thought process step by step. If you are town, there will be a fallacy somewhere.

Um there's apparently crossed signals here.

I don't need to determine which one of them are right based on their alignment. That has no bearing to me. I know my reaction was exactly me.

There was no cutting off investigation. The people I was "supposed" to react to DIDNT find it cause for concern or they wouldn't be arguing for me town as strongly as they are. They understand me better.

[Tammy]

And furthermore it's my reaction being discussed. I have ever single right to discuss people's views in my reaction.

[GuyInFreezer]

So I just picked up the context of this page.

I didn't feel anything wrong with that smiley either and if I was around I prob would've said "lol nacho go back to your pt" if I even realized that nacho was on fery ' s team. (My first thought upon thread locking was "huh what happened?")

[DeasVail]

My first thought was surprise and excitement that Nacho was in the game.

[GuyInFreezer]

My first thought was surprise and excitement that Nacho was in the game.

I wasn't the only one!

[Titus]

And furthermore it's my reaction being discussed. I have ever single right to discuss people's views in my reaction.

Right but what does belitting Empire get you other than shutting off conversation? You know you're town so this seems ridiculous to you. It's not to me. I'm pretty sure you're town, so I want to have Empire flesh out his thoughts to proceed on investigating him as well as you.

[Tammy]

And furthermore it's my reaction being discussed. I have ever single right to discuss people's views in my reaction.

Right but what does belitting Empire get you other than shutting off conversation? You know you're town so this seems ridiculous to you. It's not to me. I'm pretty sure you're town, so I want to have Empire flesh out his thoughts to proceed on investigating him as well as you.

And how am I belttleing empire again?

[GuyInFreezer]

782 gives me townvibes on ut.