Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:19 am

fery is a VT so there's nothing she can do by detecting sign. Tammy is my next-in-line townread.

Espeonage · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:20 am

Ok that's interesting. I thought I was a VT. :/

Which is part of why I was cool with creating wifom about my sign.

So not everyone has the universal powers that were in the op?

Tammy is still a bad pick.

Tammy · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:38 am

Why would I be a bad pick even if you were town reading.

And why would the town need to recover from correctly town reading me?

Don't understand you.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:39 am

The OPs say that "most" players have those abilities, but I think the wider point is that ffery is going to die before long and is therefore not going to have the time to make best use of such an ability.

This seems like kind of an awkward position because surely the people most likely to benefit from this Boon are those who need to match signs to use abilities, but we don't want to tell scum where our power roles are. There's at least one player in this game on whom I have a specific VT read rather than general town, so I want to be as oblique about this as possible and not just post a list of people whom I'd be willing to see given the Boon. I'm going to consult with my team before I vote.

Titus · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:09 am

FFery should pick the boon person or the boon pool we vote in. We know scum cannot influence uf she picks directly.

Titus · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:10 am

↑ Espeonage wrote:Ok that's interesting. I thought I was a VT. :/

Which is part of why I was cool with creating wifom about my sign.

So not everyone has the universal powers that were in the op?

Tammy is still a bad pick.

Ffery was stripped of hers. She's a treestump with a finite lifespan, not a VT.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:12 am

↑ Titus wrote:FFery should pick the boon person or the boon pool we vote in. We know scum cannot influence uf she picks directly.

Ffery picking a pool from which we Boon is a good idea. I would prefer to have some influence in choosing from within that subset as we know that town vastly outnumbers scum.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:15 am

@Espe

what has Tbone had to say about me?

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:15 am

↑ ChannelDelibird wrote:
↑ Titus wrote:FFery should pick the boon person or the boon pool we vote in. We know scum cannot influence uf she picks directly.

Ffery picking a pool from which we Boon is a good idea. I would prefer to have some influence in choosing from within that subset as we know that town vastly outnumbers scum.

I endorse this product or service

Espeonage · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:24 am

↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:@Espe

what has Tbone had to say about me?

Nuthing

vezokpiraka · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:24 am

mod

: Can we boon ffery?

That boon is dangerous in scum hands. It's also pretty useless if a VT gets it. I wish we had another boon.

Gammagooey · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:30 am

yeah I'm not actually comfortable giving that boon to anyone that isn't a strong town read

Boon: Vezok

Espeonage · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:33 am

Whoever gets the boon is going to be a target for Mafia.

So I think everyone needs to unvote. And then everyone needs to vote if they are ok with being booned. It spreads confusion for mafia over who is a PR and it also gives mafia wifom over if it is actually a good idea to go after whoever gets booned.

I don't want to see any votes on someone that hasn't said they are ok with being booned.

Espeonage · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:33 am

Current List of people ok with being Booned: Marquis

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:35 am

↑ Espeonage wrote:Whoever gets the boon is going to be a target for Mafia.

So I think everyone needs to unvote. And then everyone needs to vote if they are ok with being booned. It spreads confusion for mafia over who is a PR and it also gives mafia wifom over if it is actually a good idea to go after whoever gets booned.

I don't want to see any votes on someone that hasn't said they are ok with being booned.

This is ridiculous. It is to literally nobody's advantage to claim anything other than being OK with being booned. PRs want it, VTs want to help cover the PRs, scum want to look like one of the above.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:35 am

↑ Espeonage wrote:Whoever gets the boon is going to be a target for Mafia.

So I think everyone needs to unvote. And then everyone needs to vote if they are ok with being booned. It spreads confusion for mafia over who is a PR and it also gives mafia wifom over if it is actually a good idea to go after whoever gets booned.

I don't want to see any votes on someone that hasn't said they are ok with being booned.

Because knowing the sign of another player is something mafia will surely hunt down. Why would they look for the role that stops them from killing people when they can kill a random player who knows the sign of another player.
Are you scum espe or is your logic just bad?

I'm ok with being booned.

Gammagooey · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:37 am

also

I think we might want to have 2-3 people we think are scummy say that they're detecting tonight to try to find Viktor- since traces always come up null for him we can start clearing people of being Viktor on a successful trace - I'm a bit wary of saying that we should immediately lynch someone tomorrow if they come up with a couple of trace fails in case scum have something that would make traces fail on other people but we can at least start clearing people of being Viktor in case he/she's wound up as one of the stronger players on their team and doesn't get lynched for a while.

Espeonage · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:39 am

I have a feeling I might need to actually read the thread.

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:40 am

↑ Espeonage wrote:
↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:@Espe

what has Tbone had to say about me?

Nuthing

if this keeps up I'm gonna start scumreading you

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:40 am

↑ Espeonage wrote:I have a feeling I might need to actually read the thread.

Please.

Gammagooey · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:41 am

Gammagooey wrote:
I think we might want to have 2-3 people we think are scummy say that they're detecting tonight to try to find Viktor- since traces always come up null for him we can start clearing people of being Viktor on a successful trace -
I'm a bit wary of saying that we should immediately lynch someone tomorrow if they come up with a couple of trace fails in case scum have something that would make traces fail on other people but we can at least start clearing people of being Viktor in case he/she's wound up as one of the stronger players on their team and doesn't get lynched for a while.

I don't want volunteers for this by the way. It needs to be at least a few people coming to a consensus on scummy people for it to have a chance to actually hit Viktor, not people volunteering to get cleared of being him.

Espeonage · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:41 am

I won't have time to read it until Sunday at the earliest. It is mid session break next week tho.

@UT: k

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:45 am

yeah look out

I'm real scary

fferyllt · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:24 am

↑ GuyInFreezer wrote:fery is a VT so there's nothing she can do by detecting sign. Tammy is my next-in-line townread.

I don't think I can be given a boon. and I'm sure I can't use one. I'm essentially a treestump.

I'm not liking Espe much at all.

Titus · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:36 am

Ffery are you fine with picking the boon pool, or the boon?