Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[Magua]

Vote Count 1.8

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

shos (3): Rhinox, Cephrir, Lady Lambdadelta
copper223 (2): TierShift, T-Bone
Lady Lambdadelta (1): shos
T-Bone (1): copper223
Who (1): Cabd
Cabd (1): xRECKONERx
Katsuki (1): Iecerint

Not Voting (3): Katsuki, notscience, Who

Deadline for Day 1 is Wednesday, April 15th, at 12:00 noon EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2015-04-15 11:00:00)

Name	Change	Score
Cabd	-	49
Cephrir	-	48
copper223	-	50
Iecerint	-	50
Katsuki	-	50
Lady Lambdadelta	-	52
notscience	-	50
Rhinox	-	48
shos	-	52
T-Bone	-	50
TierShift	-	49
Who	-	50
xRECKONERx	-	51

[xRECKONERx]

my team has reported in and think shos & T-Bone are town

[notscience]

Why?

[xRECKONERx]

literally no reasons given

my team also super helpful

[notscience]

So it's essentially like their ISOs.

Because

that

makes sense. Do they have any ruling on the more active players? Tiershift, LLD, etc?

[copper223]

This doesn't make any sense to me. You're OK lynching one of Reck or Who but you don't want to be the one to hammer? Or what are you actually saying? Just seems overly cautious / going-with-the-flow-y. Why are you afraid of taking a solid stance?

I see, what I mean with this is I found these two players in particular the scummiest but I would not go through with hammering them, if I were voting for them and someone put them at L-1 I would unvote and I would not hammer them if I were not on the wagon.

Why are you interpreting my motivations to fit a scum mo? There is a difference between not having a good enough read to lynch someone and being afraid of something, you don't know what I am thinking so why are you putting forwards this particular motive?

This doesn't make any sense to me either. What are you trying to say? Why is asking about how you choose to play off limits?

Again this is not what I said, if Ceph. wants to know something about how I play to read me better, fair and good, what I thought Ceph. was doing was trying to strong arm me into following him on Reck and questioning me for not doing so, not because he found it alignment relevant, but because he wanted me to, and backseat gaming is what is off limits for me.

[copper223]

I am starting to lean town on Reckoner despite my inner wishes.

If Cabd is scum, probably so is Tiershift, Cabd being scum would explain why he was making sense on that read in particular.

[shos]

yo I still need to read a few pages but I saw the VC change and it made me think maybe the previous roles have to do with the "score"

so I was a lurker-doublevoter - as in, I can doublevote anyone who hasn't posted 48 hours straight.

[xRECKONERx]

So it's essentially like their ISOs.

Because

that

makes sense. Do they have any ruling on the more active players? Tiershift, LLD, etc?

No, the only things that have been said are that they think I'm on the right track applying pressure to Cabd/Cephrir and that they believe shos/T-Bone are town. That's it.

My PT is pretty dead with regards to this game, mostly because it started so late.

[notscience]

My biggest issue with cephrir is his aggression- granted, that's my biggest issue with most of this playerlist, it feels like the game just started yet most of us want to kill each other.

I eagerly await Cabd's catchup tomorrow.

What do you think of icerink?

[xRECKONERx]

Ummm his little "take shots from the side without engaging" is pretty par for the course afaik

[copper223]

So you think it's null or is it actually a towntell for him?

[TierShift]

The reason I think copper is town is a lot of the early showing of trying to figure things out, his discrediting my attempts to discredit his townread on me, and I feel like the cockiness regarding his read on me likely comes from town.

What do you make of his overreaction to being voted?

[T-Bone]

Re: 202. You didn't purposely not quote the post in which I elaborated did you?

[TierShift]

I think his decision to try and put attention onto the mysterious scoring thing in our current game state is suspicious.

Why is it?

If Cabd is scum, probably so is Tiershift, Cabd being scum would explain why he was making sense on that read in particular.

I don't understand this. Do you mean to say that if I'm scum, I only make understandable reads on my teammates? If so, that's hilarious, as I haven't even given a read on cabd.

yo I still need to read a few pages but I saw the VC change and it made me think maybe the previous roles have to do with the "score"

No it does have something to do with votes I think.

No, the only things that have been said are that they think I'm on the right track applying pressure to Cabd/Cephrir and that they believe shos/T-Bone are town. That's it.

My PT is pretty dead with regards to this game, mostly because it started so late.

Why ceph?

[shos]

Alright it's passover!
let's reread everythinggg ^_^

[shos]

18. Each Day will have a deadline of fourteen real life days.

In the event deadline is reached before a lynch has occurred, no lynch will occur.

4. The Mafia have daytalk with each other. In addition, the scums' teammates will have read-only access to the Mafia PT.

As a start, these should be repeated in case anyon missed this

[shos]

K going page by page.
didn't expect so much on p1, lol

Hi guys
~f

I think we should be massclaiming our prior roles. I especially want to hear from prior scum about how their fake claims were structured/set up.

I'll start, even. I was town day mailman, night "beyond the grave" message leaver.

This is a post that comes from a town mindset. Normally I wouldn't dwell on the first roll but getting this modmeta might definitely be useful.

Don't quite see how the town role PMs could help, but the scum definitely.

Seems like a pointless exercise, but it's going to get talked about anyway, so I might as well save everyone some time.

I was a suicidal 2-shot reflexive doctor. Which means I can doc everyone who targets me on a given night twice, and also had the power to commit suicide. With any luck you all won't make me wish I still had that power.

this sounds now like a scumpost. Why is it pointless? afraid that people learn some about your current state?

worth voting here
VOTE: ceph

In changing your RVS vote so quickly, are you declaring a weak townread on me, or...?

This post is odd, though. and it makes me a tad paranoid - maybe you knew that the mod changed his ways this game and that is why you offered at first for towncred?

If ever in the history of man there has ever been a time mod meta would be ineffective, that time is right now.

explain this post.

[shos]

p2

what's the deal with all the 'conditional' questions?

If any, policy lynch notscience, he has just claimed hated.

dat better?

No.

Why would that be a reason to policy lynch someone?

because a hated townie in lylo is autoloss?

Me so right.

Oh yea

VOTE: cabd srs vote

is this srs srsly?

[Katsuki]

OMG WHY ARE THERE 10 PAGES ALREADY

BUT LMAO EVEN REROLL COULDNT KEEP ME FROM DRAWING AN AWESOME ROLE
YOU TOWNIES ARE SO LUCKY THIS GOT REROLLED
MY LAST ROLE WAS LITERALLY HAND TAILORED FOR ME

THEN AGAIN THIS ONE IS TOO
RIP SCUM

[Cephrir]

K going page by page.
didn't expect so much on p1, lol

Hi guys
~f

I think we should be massclaiming our prior roles. I especially want to hear from prior scum about how their fake claims were structured/set up.

I'll start, even. I was town day mailman, night "beyond the grave" message leaver.

This is a post that comes from a town mindset. Normally I wouldn't dwell on the first roll but getting this modmeta might definitely be useful.

Don't quite see how the town role PMs could help, but the scum definitely.

So you think the mods are shit?

Seems like a pointless exercise, but it's going to get talked about anyway, so I might as well save everyone some time.

I was a suicidal 2-shot reflexive doctor. Which means I can doc everyone who targets me on a given night twice, and also had the power to commit suicide. With any luck you all won't make me wish I still had that power.

this sounds now like a scumpost. Why is it pointless? afraid that people learn some about your current state?

worth voting here
VOTE: ceph

Seriously?

1) Obviously, me thinking it's pointless is not going to accomplish it not getting talked about
2) My cooperation should make it clear that I simply don't care either way whether this is talked about
3) This thought process is clearly consistent with what I posted in 18, which you even managed to quote.

Garbage.

In changing your RVS vote so quickly, are you declaring a weak townread on me, or...?

This post is odd, though. and it makes me a tad paranoid - maybe you knew that the mod changed his ways this game and that is why you offered at first for towncred?

What on earth does this point have to do with the post you quoted?

If ever in the history of man there has ever been a time mod meta would be ineffective, that time is right now.

explain this post.

I already have, finish reading the thread.

This doesn't make any sense to me. You're OK lynching one of Reck or Who but you don't want to be the one to hammer? Or what are you actually saying? Just seems overly cautious / going-with-the-flow-y. Why are you afraid of taking a solid stance?

I see, what I mean with this is I found these two players in particular the scummiest but I would not go through with hammering them, if I were voting for them and someone put them at L-1 I would unvote and I would not hammer them if I were not on the wagon.

Why are you interpreting my motivations to fit a scum mo? There is a difference between not having a good enough read to lynch someone and being afraid of something, you don't know what I am thinking so why are you putting forwards this particular motive?

This post works for me. I expect scum copper to be smoother. But I'm far from outright townreading him.

OMG WHY ARE THERE 10 PAGES ALREADY

BUT LMAO EVEN REROLL COULDNT KEEP ME FROM DRAWING AN AWESOME ROLE
YOU TOWNIES ARE SO LUCKY THIS GOT REROLLED
MY LAST ROLE WAS LITERALLY HAND TAILORED FOR ME

THEN AGAIN THIS ONE IS TOO
RIP SCUM

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p5260319

[copper223]

@Tier
The kind of information you shared on Cabd is useful, so I would put a premium on and not disclose it as scum unless there was a good reason to do so, as a soft deflection for a teammate it makes sense, it also makese sense for you as town to say. You did give a read, you implied null to town with the post about Cabd being thorough and that you find his behavior wrt setup spec. in line with his play, don't try to weasel out of it preemptively covering yourself in case Cabd starts playing lurkscum as is his want lately when he rolls that.

[copper223]

@Ceph.
Assumimg you are town here, which think pretty likely, I want to play with you as scum to see if you have a good read on me or if you just call me town all the time.

[Cephrir]

@Ceph.
Assumimg you are town here, which think pretty likely, I want to play with you as scum to see if you have a good read on me or if you just call me town all the time.

I'm interested in this too, hehe.

[shos]

Reck, you rolled scum this game eh?

shos, read the thread.

I finally got what you mean :/

Oh actually legit proposing a who PL day one. He's gonna be a useless fuck and end up getting lynched anyways, let's get it over with today.

VOTE: who

Can you back this up?

It's mostly true from my experience with him.

I kinda have to agree from my exp with who, but that's still not a reason to PL.

@Ceph.
Are you in a bad mood? You seem needlessly antagonistic compared to the baseline I am used to.

Heh.

[It's intentional.]

Ah.

Ah.
Can you (ceph) please explain your intentions? I was kinda doing something similar I think just wanting to make sure

Reck, you rolled scum this game eh?

This occurred to me, but if you check his posts you'll notice that he's on mobile.

Can you explain what occurred to you here?

His posting seemed really pithy and his vote for Cabd seemed more like an attempt to establish gravitas than an attempt to vote someone whom he thought was scum.

But the brevity (and consequent lack of clear motivation behind some of his posts) could also be attributed to mobile posting.

this is s townpost.


LLD too feels town by this page.