Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Shadoweh]

I was being sarcastic in order to mask my extreme irritation with him claiming.

Hey, who wants to talk about what we're doing with our two lynches tomorrow while Ffery and Friends ponder our Boonage? I'm guessing there's some popularity nudges in Gamma's direction? TBD hasn't conferred with me yet since Empire started posting. If I were to guess they will say something like 'he's still scum lynch the scumfuck trolololol'. I personally would love to wagon CBD and already have my vote itching to stuff in his stupid pokebeak. Tammy, who else besides Empire do you think should go? I think you're getting into semantics with him, though him refusing to admit you're town at this point is weird to me. Stubbornness I guess.

[Tammy]

I have a feeling I might need to actually read the thread.

Why are you calling me scum and saying I'm not obvtowning in my own special way if you haven't read the thread?

[DeasVail]

extended family

interesting (though not really relevant to anything) that you used this word. I've been talking about extended families to Nacho wrt these games.

I'm not sure about the implications the use of this term has on my team.

[Shadoweh]

You know what they say Deevee, incest is wincest!

[Tammy]

I was being sarcastic in order to mask my extreme irritation with him claiming.

Hey, who wants to talk about what we're doing with our two lynches tomorrow while Ffery and Friends ponder our Boonage? I'm guessing there's some popularity nudges in Gamma's direction? TBD hasn't conferred with me yet since Empire started posting. If I were to guess they will say something like 'he's still scum lynch the scumfuck trolololol'. I personally would love to wagon CBD and already have my vote itching to stuff in his stupid pokebeak. Tammy, who else besides Empire do you think should go? I think you're getting into semantics with him, though him refusing to admit you're town at this point is weird to me. Stubbornness I guess.

I don't know. I'm not a big fan of tth, but I also don't know what I think about ut yet or Cdb. I had both of them as suspicious earlier. I thought bulba's strenght of a town read on me was odd because after capcom he said he'd be paranoid of me, but I can buy his reason for townreading me, though it does feel weird that people who should recognize that stuff aren't, still think the interaction with DV felt like at least one was being manipulative. Espy doesn't feel right, but that's in part that I hate when people say they've forgotten the game and the tone of his approach doesn't feel quite right. Still a bit suspicious of marquis but that could be lingering stuff from yesterday.

[Tammy]

I don't know what to think of gamma, but I don't think empires points against him are very strong at all. I have a team thought on him that I holding onto pending more inout though.

[DeasVail]

You know what they say Deevee, incest is wincest!

Thank you Shadow.

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Regarding Gamma's proposal, I've decided that I disagree and don't really want to explain why.

And Empire, when it comes to CDB and The Wire, the only thing I really remember about CDB from that game was that he skated by for a while because of a really 'townie' reaction to some pressure he was getting. Ceph thinks CDB is town but I'm not seeing it. Still have to decide what my overall read is there though, but it will most likely not be based on meta.

[Aronis]

Boon: Marquis

I feel like she's 100% t8wn at this point and she wants it, so I'm happy giving it to her.

I still feel like Gamma is prob town and Espeonage has leapt to the top of my scumlist.

[Espeonage]

Why would I be a bad pick even if you were town reading.

And why would the town need to recover from correctly town reading me?

Don't understand you.

ESPEONAGE

If you are scum you are the kind of player that an run a misplaced obvtown to the game, not everyone has that ability.

[Espeonage]

I have a feeling I might need to actually read the thread.

Why are you calling me scum and saying I'm not obvtowning in my own special way if you haven't read the thread?

Because I have one of the strongest guts on site so I trust it and pretty much all of what I have read was You v Zar/Empire.

[Espeonage]

And lol, I've been killed night 1 like 3 times in five years.

[Gammagooey]

Gamma, from your recent thoughts on UT and vezok, it appears you tend to townread being open and showing your cards, like UT is doing. But I don't think it's past the water mark of, well, any player here, especially given that coaching is a thing, to appear "genuine". You're going to have to explain what exactly you think is genuine if you want your townread to have any actual credence with anyone. I'd ask you to explain your townread on me while you're at it, but we all know I'm town, and I'm sure you're a busy man.

I kinda doubt that what I say is going to give you given your opinion on it but look at vezok's play especially and ask yourself if it looks like he's been coached to do anything this game. I'll agree that it'll be a lot easier to make more genuine looking reads with the other players on people's teams helping them but all of vezok's posts look like he's just posting his immediate thoughts on the game without any filter on them, which is INCREDIBLY difficult for most people to fake as scum given that they have a completely different mindset focused around avoiding suspicion and finding targets for lynches and nightkills.

my read on UT is a lot weaker but I see where he's coming from in pretty much all of his posts, especially where he's irritated with Titus's playstyle. I just see similar thought processes to the ones I've had and I think those are more likely to be coming from town.

and yeah analyzing people's mindsets and whether they make more sense as town or scum is the vast majority of how I scumhunt, especially early game, given that just about every other aspect of a person's play can be much more easily manipulated by scum to look more like themselves as town.

[Tammy]

Why would I be a bad pick even if you were town reading.

And why would the town need to recover from correctly town reading me?

Don't understand you.

ESPEONAGE

If you are scum you are the kind of player that an run a misplaced obvtown to the game, not everyone has that ability.

I'm feeling pretty shitty right now, so compliments will get you everywhere!!!

[Tammy]

I have a feeling I might need to actually read the thread.

Why are you calling me scum and saying I'm not obvtowning in my own special way if you haven't read the thread?

Because I have one of the strongest guts on site so I trust it and pretty much all of what I have read was You v Zar/Empire.

Will you actually read my posts? It's literally fucking with my head that the people who i think should recognize me as town aren't and people I wouldn't expect to are.

[Titus]

No drunk readlist tonight. Caught up in IRL.

I am leaning Booning Marquis. I have minor reservations about Tammy which are nit present with Marquis. I don't want the boon because I cannot target worth a damn. DV does not seem to want it. Ffery cannot have it. Don't quite trust Empire enough and I think that's the group there as well. Bulba's never getting a boon lol. It's not optimal to give it to GiF. It's better me and share via comedy club. TSO could get it as well but he seems overeager.

[Tammy]

Titus is starting to worry about me. Maybe all is coming right in the world???

[Titus]

Why am I starting to worry you?

[Tammy]

Erm.

You're starting to worry about me.

You're not someone I would expect to recognize me as town, so the fact that you did while the people who should be reading me as town didn't/aren't has been really weird feeling, but if you're stsrting to worry about me maybe the planets are moving into alignment?

Oh a remark I meant to respond to last night concerning your concern about me second guessing myself with empire. Empire and I are friends, neither one of us would want to mislynch the other if we are town, not that I'd want to mislynch anyone, but it's especially stronger with actual not only mafia friends.

[Espeonage]

Hey Tammy, you do realise you are easier to read the happier you are right?

Also Titus is probs town.

[Titus]

Derp misread...

So you actually think from your perspective Tammy that me having inaccurate suspicions is good?

I think I need sleep.

[Tammy]

I can't magically make myself happy.

No, titus that wasn't my implication. From our past experience I would nt expect you to read me correctly. You have been. People that I would expect to read me correctly haven't. It's felt topsyturvey.

[Espeonage]

Ok there was a question in there of what can I do to make you happier.

[Tammy]

Thank you, yu can't. This one just needs to ride itself out and bowl me under.

I'm still easily read if you read my posts though!

[Shadoweh]

Why are you even bothering to read Tammy when she's going to die by Night 2?
Every time you tell Tammy that she's so townie it's beautiful her heart grows three sizes, true fax.

[Shadoweh]

Marquis has literally done nothing but fluff post. I would rather boon my pet rock then him.