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[SleepyKrew]

Also they say they think I'm playing towards my scum meta yet are bringing up me using self meta, which is a very town meta thing I do.

This sounds more like "it's a towntell" as opposed to "it's null".

[Fenchurch]

Well there was a question in which you didn't answer so next time you are reading if you could that would make me happy.

Okay, had a look and found it.

Is there a way my read and the read on micc being connected? Are you trying to draw connections pre:flip or are they not connected?

No, not at all, pretty much all those reads are independent. My Micc read was just based on things like #78:

"I'm not asking you to vote a read you don't believe in. I'm trying to figure out what you were doing at that point that was helping move the game forward"

, and some of his questions in #98, which seemed to me more likely coming from a townie mindset.

But it's really not much to go by, and I'd like for Micc to post more.

[Boonskiies]

Also they say they think I'm playing towards my scum meta yet are bringing up me using self meta, which is a very town meta thing I do.

This sounds more like "it's a towntell" as opposed to "it's null".

Granted, when I self-meta as scum I'm doing it in a defending way where I have the impression of you're scum reading me correctly, but for wrong reasons, whereas when I self-meta for town, I'm trying to prove something that I really can't prove, so I flail.

I

believe I should be obviously town in those situations, which is why I do the self-meta, but I get that it doesn't prove me as town. So it's kinda just meh.

[Fenchurch]

UNVOTE: Micc

What makes you unvote Micc now? Given that he hasn't really done anything since you last placed your vote.

[SleepyKrew]

Granted, when I self-meta as scum I'm doing it in a defending way

Like currently?

[Boonskiies]

Not defending my play or anything, more like trying to prove the other their wrong for the reasons I would be scum. This already can't be that as the self-meta would be accurate this time, and that contradicts the me self-meta'ing as scum to defend that, as it would be accurate in that case. It's the ladder one.

[Boonskiies]

I don't even know what I'm saying at this point, Sleepy. I'm just posting for the sake of being bored. Regardless, let's move the subject off of me self-meta'ing. It really is moot.

[SleepyKrew]

Is it though? I honestly don't know.

[Trojan Horse]

I don't even know what I'm saying at this point, Sleepy. I'm just posting for the sake of being bored. Regardless, let's move the subject off of me self-meta'ing. It really is moot.

And just when I'd moved you back to "null tell", you start looking scummy again. You're digging your own grave, Boon.

[Boonskiies]

Why would I ever say that as scum? Damn...

[Malakittens]

I have seen scum say it a lot boons.

Boons do me a favor

give me 4 reads, idc if its scum or town reads, but give something.

And explain why.

[jasonT1981]

Why would I ever say that as scum? Damn...

jesus tap dancing crust....

add MIFOM to self meta and OMGUS

[Boonskiies]

Keep in mind, these are page 11 reads! Don't go over exaggerating everything like you all have been. I'll give you 6.

Pieguyn

- town, as explained earlier.

sthar8

- I like his thought process in this game; he's been coming off very genuine to me. I believe him to be town.

Egg

- aye...most of the games I've been in with Egg, i've seen him as instantly town. Granted it's page 11, but I'm not feeling that. lean scum.

Trojan Horse

- i think this guy is ignorant as hell. But when I see ignorance and I'm not town reading someone, usually means they're scum. I feel like he's just waiting around waiting for people to act scummy so he can mislynch them. scum.

jasonT1981

- my team told me that he's probably town. So I'm going to start seeing things as if they're coming from TownJason.

Malakittens

- My team told me you were town. But I felt that anyways. I liked your 188, and you've kind of been helping me stay on track, and not be all flail townie-easy mislynch. People could argue that you could be WK'ing me, especially since I believe this is our first game together since the Titus meet? yes. Your reactions come off genuine.

[Trojan Horse]

Keep in mind, these are page 11 reads! Don't go over exaggerating everything like you all have been.

I'm not bothered by your list of reads, even though you put me on the scum side. But you keep on telling us not to overreact to what you say. That does bother me.

[Malakittens]

UNVOTE: Micc

What makes you unvote Micc now? Given that he hasn't really done anything since you last placed your vote.

There's other things happening right now. Plus he's VLA or something so I'm going to give him breathing room. I'm waiting til he comes back and then see how he acts etc.

Personally, I think Boons is leaning closer to town than scum. His flail reminds me of town-flail and things. I mean I think he's reacting bad because Jason seems to be all over the place in terms of going after those are easy targets etc, while ignoring questions and ignoring others.

Trojan bugged me with his 258 because it looks like a fence-sit where he could use to go back into the Boons wagon anytime he wanted to-type of feel post.

I'm kinda "eh" on the Jason wagon because it consists of Thor (who's currently null b/c I'm waiting for him to post), Micc (who I was scumreading and i'm waiting on to post) and Fench (whom my teammate, Iec, has some doubts on being town and likely leaning towards scum).

[Malakittens]

Also Boons yeah you haven't played with me or my alt since Titus-meet, but your game right now is reminding me a bit of Fuzzy Forest.

[jasonT1981]

Personally, I think Boons is leaning closer to town than scum. His flail reminds me of town-flail and things. I mean I think he's reacting bad because Jason seems to be all over the place in terms of going after those are easy targets etc, while ignoring questions and ignoring others.

I don't think I have ignored any questions, I have tried to answer anything put towards me. If I have missed anything, by all means re-post or tell me where I missed them and I will try to answer them.

But I don't think I am going after 'easy targets' I am going after who I believe is scum. I also don't believe I am ignoring others as I have interactions with almost everyone in this game so far.

[Malakittens]

Fench even requoted it and it still hasn't been answered so.

[DeltaWave]

Alright I finally got a chance to sit down and actually read this game. Thoughts:

1. Post 22 - I agree with Malakitten's assessment of Micc's Post 19. He's now on my watch list.

2. Post 33 - TJ criticizing SK for not RVSing sounds like pointless bickering to me that's probably not indicative of alignment. Same goes for the whole TJ vs. SK bullshit on Page 2. I feel like I lost a few minutes of my life that I will never get back.

3. Post 49 - Jason laying a townread on Trojan is inexplicable. Not sure what to make of this.

4. Post 50 - I like this post by Malakittens. Upgrading them to probtown.

5. Post 53 - No, STD, it's not weird that two people voted SK. That's what RVS is about. I've got my eye on you.

6. Post 54 - I'm not sure what Thor is trying to do in this post. Neutral for now but I'm enjoying the grilling of STD.

7. Post 57 - STD acting like the SK wagon was this supersrs non-RVS wagon is weirdly defensive. FOS on him. Lol post 58 just ramps the defensiveness up to 11.

8. Post 61 - STD I swear to god. I'm starting to get bored so this better get good soon.

9. Boonskiies in general feels a lot like how I play scum. Very hyperactive.

10. Post 86 - Micc sounds like frustrated town. Here, have a townread.

Fenchurch puzzles me with this whole "stubbornness = town" thing in Post 92. Doesn't affect my read either way but it's just wrong.

11. Post 118 - Once again Malakitten's logic is jiving with my own. Really thinking they're town. Pieguyn's posts on this page aren't earning him townpoints.

12. Post 135 - Quote from STD: "I'm bothered by malakittens's language; there's a giddy confidence in there (like Light from Death Note, or I guess early books Queen Cersei)" Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Something tells me I'm going to be voting you by the time I finish this.

13. Post 142 - Sthar8 seems reasonable. Nothing much more to say about that.

Fenchurch is sort of just existing. Boonskiie's Post 147 makes me want to weep. Egg is still null. Egg v. Sthar smells like town-on-town violence to me. Jason's work on this page isn't so bad actually, I like the criticism of pie. Boon's vote on Jason in Post 176 just stinks. Something bothers me about TJ's vote on Boon in 200. STD is unbearable on Page 9. Fenchurch and Egg seems largely uncontroversial to me. I hate these arguments about meta and self-meta.

Reads:

Scumpool - Boon, STD, Pie
Neutral leaning scum - TJ
Neutral - Jason
Neutral leaning town - Egg, Fenchurch, Thor, Micc, Stahar8
Townpool - Malakittens

VOTE: Boonskiies

I would just as easily vote STD right now.

[SleepyKrew]

Please don't ever make a post like that ever again. At least have the decency to link to the posts you mention. And also I'm not in your readslist.

[Save The Dragons]

From what I've seen it looks like you didn't actually read my posts.

[DeltaWave]

Each page has 24 posts on it. So it's easy to know that Post 22 falls on Page 1, Post 50 on page 3 and so forth.

You are neutral. I don't have strong feelings about you either way.

[DeltaWave]

You as in SK.

[SleepyKrew]

25 posts per page, actually. And links are still way more convenient.

[SleepyKrew]

You are neutral. I don't have strong feelings about you either way.

How do you feel about the townreads people have expressed on me?