8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Hoopla]

all good.

sorry for the game everyone -- a bit rusty. didn't really know where to start in identifying scum.

[GreyICE]

GOD

FUCKING

DAMN

IT

Hoopla, I'm sorry, if you'd given me one iota of an indication that you were town, I'd have joined backed you 100%. Theory discussion is not it.

Damn this is going to suck.

[Hoopla]

i think there were actually a decent amount of townies voting for me, that it will make finding the scum taking advantage of my situation difficult. as i said before, i'd start with seraphim...

[GreyICE]

A good place.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hoopla is still alive...

I count 6 votes on Hoopla, she needs 7 to be lynched.

Hoopla: Me, Seraphim, Metal Sonic, Eddie, GreyIce, wgeurts

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hoopla can you self-hammer pls thank you

[Hoopla]

nope.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Well you're still a lurking scumbag that is asking to be hammered.

[Hoopla]

you should know me better, abr.

[GreyICE]

You are shitting me.

Unvote

No way. No fucking way. There is no way I am lynching town today.

Vote: Kagami

This is the right fucking play.

[Albert B. Rampage]

As if I believe for one second the scum theater that just happened. Lol.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I know that Hoopla counts the votes. We always do. Stop being silly, GreyIce, it's unbecoming.

[GreyICE]

Go dunk your head in the fucking toilet and come back when you have some perspective. We labored with blood, sweat, and tears to build the fucking Sotty wagon. It was uphill both ways in the snow. The wagon on Silverwolf has been building since Silverwolf's second post, and getting votes on it is like carrying water in a sieve. We get six votes on a wagon in a handful of hours? FUCK THAT

PEdit: Oh fuck yeah, that is EXACTLY what people said about me in the first team mafia game. When I thought I'd been hammered. As town. IT FUCKING HAPPENS. I have seen it multiple times. I modded a game where it happened TWICE that people thought they had been hammered when they weren't.

You want me back, ABR? Prove it. Nacho challenge style. She flips scum, my vote is yours tomorrow. Vote me, vote wguerts (please don't), vote whoever. She flips town, your vote is mine, and we use it to get some ACTUAL FUCKING SCUMBAGS.

[GreyICE]

Come on ABR, I know you're still on. Prove to me that you mean this, that it isn't going to be "hurr durr, that needed to happen, I have some shitty meta read that Kagami is town from my team". I will fucking self vote if you win and want to lynch me. You got the balls to back your read?

[wgeurts]

VOTE: kagami

[GreyICE]

Come on ABR. You said I was a coward, that I get cold feet. Show me this isn't all bluster. Because right now I've got an obvious scumbag versus an obvious lurker with a wagon that materializes IN SECONDS on the latter.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Do you remember why I originally voted Sotty?

It was for two reasons. First, because she didn't scumhunt. Second, because she had a blanket town read on Hoopla. What's changed for Sotty? What's changed for Hoopla?

I'd like to take out one of them two today. You're right that even Kagami is trying harder than Hoopla and Sotty. Being wrong about Kagami is worse than being wrong about Hoopla and Sotty, who both bring very little to the table.

And please don't insult me again like that, alright?

[GreyICE]

A blanket "I don't want to lynch Hoopla today, but that only applies to day 1" read on Hoopla. That negated any possibility of discussing lynching Hoopla day 1, and left every opportunity to turn that around on any later day. That's a scum post, through and through, but it doesn't mean Hoopla is scum. It just means Sotty is.

Fine, no insults. Is your money where your mouth is? We both know that the ability to hit submit on some post is worth very little. The ability to attach a vote to it is everything. I give you my vote, and I give you my identity in the town. I am a ghost for day 2. You give me your vote, and you are the same. My word of honor it will happen, has nothing to do with my alignment. Your word of honor, the same.

What say you? Because without that, my vote stays where it is.

[Albert B. Rampage]

So we lynch Kagami today, and if it flips town, Nacho tomorrow?

[Metal Sonic]

Here comes the shit kit

[GreyICE]

I rather like the idea of Kagami today and Sotty tomorrow. LLD has a town read on Nacho. We are currently talking on Skype.

[GreyICE]

Okay, LLD's thoughts mostly mirror mine. She has a townier read on Sotty, which I don't have to agree with. Her best point was, and I summarize:

- Zar has provided a reads list without a vote. A reads list without a vote is air. He's now skated by for ages on Empire "not picking scum", Empire has apparently donated no reads to the game he was once a part of.

She likes the Kagami lynch, for the same reasons I do. She also thinks my play is crap, but she always thinks my play is crap. Love ya too, because I know you'll read this~

[Metal Sonic]

I think that hoopla was not reading the game enough to have a personal investment into whether she has been hammered or not.

I do not plan on moving my vote.

[Metal Sonic]

You be like... "Lol this wagon is going too fast must be scum lol"

Meanwhile crying for Sotty and Kagami blood

They aren't even on the wagon

The fuck is your point?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why would you lynch Sotty if Kagami flips town?