We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Titus]

@House, it's too early for VCA. You also are selectively looking at wagons. The reasoning you are putting forth could apply to many players, not just Cerb.

[House]

@House, it's too early for VCA. You also are selectively looking at wagons. The reasoning you are putting forth could apply to many players, not just Cerb.

"Many players" can't conftown when they die. Only Cerb.

[Titus]

Then it's better to have Cerb killed later, when scum cannot do anything about conftown because the pool of lynchable players is so small.

[House]

Then it's better to have Cerb killed later, when scum cannot do anything about conftown because the pool of lynchable players is so small.

I'd rather shoot Cerb now and have a solid shot at hitting scum, with the upside of conftowning ChriVi if he actually does flip town, which I truly doubt will happen.

[House]

It says ChriVi is confirmed town. Hell, I'll full claim now because why not?

I am a "Town One-Way Mason Theologist."

My abilities are Duotheist, and Faithful Guelphian Neighbor.

Duotheist: I can investigate one player per night to find out which moderator created their role. If you recall, I stated earlier in the game that I had proof that there were indeed accomodations for the merging of games made, and this is it. The power wouldn't exist in the original 13 player game.
Faithful Guelphian Neighbor: I may speak with ChriVi at any time. I know they are town, but they do not know my alignment.

I investigated TPTG night one, and was told that dramonic made his role. I then investigated ChriVi N2, and found that Nikanor made their role. The thought was that the masons were unlikely to exist in the same game as the neighbors, so one of the two of us along with one of the masons were created by the same individual, then we could be fairly certain the masons were actually scum. Since we're from different games, I see little reason to not believe them.

This claim just smacks of scum.

Why would he out a conftown claim on ChriVi when they weren't being run up? Why would he investigate the player that he knows is conftown?

This shit just doesn't add up.

[Titus]

Then it's better to have Cerb killed later, when scum cannot do anything about conftown because the pool of lynchable players is so small.

I'd rather shoot Cerb now and have a solid shot at hitting scum, with the upside of conftowning ChriVi if he actually does flip town, which I truly doubt will happen.

I do think Cerb is rather town though.

[House]

Vote Count 3.06

deathfisaro (6)

- Toon Fighter, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Three-Pronged Trouser God, Drixx, deathfisaro

Oranje Crush (4)

- BBmolla, Narninian, vonflare, LucianRoy

Boonskiies (2)

- ActionDan, Cerberus v666

vonflare (2)

- BRantz, PeregrineV

Not Voting (4)

: Ozgin, ChriVi, Boonskiies, Om of the Nom, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Om of the Nom is being replaced.

House replaces Ozgin. Thank you!

This is the VC prior to Cerb's claim.

Outing ChriVi as conftown the way he did just put a glaring bullseye on them for scum to take out.

[Titus]

It says ChriVi is confirmed town. Hell, I'll full claim now because why not?

I am a "Town One-Way Mason Theologist."

My abilities are Duotheist, and Faithful Guelphian Neighbor.

Duotheist: I can investigate one player per night to find out which moderator created their role. If you recall, I stated earlier in the game that I had proof that there were indeed accomodations for the merging of games made, and this is it. The power wouldn't exist in the original 13 player game.
Faithful Guelphian Neighbor: I may speak with ChriVi at any time. I know they are town, but they do not know my alignment.

I investigated TPTG night one, and was told that dramonic made his role. I then investigated ChriVi N2, and found that Nikanor made their role. The thought was that the masons were unlikely to exist in the same game as the neighbors, so one of the two of us along with one of the masons were created by the same individual, then we could be fairly certain the masons were actually scum. Since we're from different games, I see little reason to not believe them.

This claim just smacks of scum.

Why would he out a conftown claim on ChriVi when they weren't being run up? Why would he investigate the player that he knows is conftown?

This shit just doesn't add up.

He doesn't investigate for alignment. Figuring out that the masons have to be in different games is helpful for us. If he got the masons were in the same game, he'd know that TPTG and TF had to be scum. Pretty good for not investigating alignment.

He says ChiVi is conftown to get information out there rather than get run up for a read that didn't appear based in analysis of the thread.

Shooting ChiVi and having them flip scum would confirm Cerebus as scum.

[House]

Then it's better to have Cerb killed later, when scum cannot do anything about conftown because the pool of lynchable players is so small.

I'd rather shoot Cerb now and have a solid shot at hitting scum, with the upside of conftowning ChriVi if he actually does flip town, which I truly doubt will happen.

I do think Cerb is rather town though.

Bullshit.

[Titus]

Why couldn't cerb just kill ChiVi as scum?

[House]

It says ChriVi is confirmed town. Hell, I'll full claim now because why not?

I am a "Town One-Way Mason Theologist."

My abilities are Duotheist, and Faithful Guelphian Neighbor.

Duotheist: I can investigate one player per night to find out which moderator created their role. If you recall, I stated earlier in the game that I had proof that there were indeed accomodations for the merging of games made, and this is it. The power wouldn't exist in the original 13 player game.
Faithful Guelphian Neighbor: I may speak with ChriVi at any time. I know they are town, but they do not know my alignment.

I investigated TPTG night one, and was told that dramonic made his role. I then investigated ChriVi N2, and found that Nikanor made their role. The thought was that the masons were unlikely to exist in the same game as the neighbors, so one of the two of us along with one of the masons were created by the same individual, then we could be fairly certain the masons were actually scum. Since we're from different games, I see little reason to not believe them.

This claim just smacks of scum.

Why would he out a conftown claim on ChriVi when they weren't being run up? Why would he investigate the player that he knows is conftown?

This shit just doesn't add up.

He doesn't investigate for alignment. Figuring out that the masons have to be in different games is helpful for us. If he got the masons were in the same game, he'd know that TPTG and TF had to be scum. Pretty good for not investigating alignment.

He says ChiVi is conftown to get information out there rather than get run up for a read that didn't appear based in analysis of the thread.

Shooting ChiVi and having them flip scum would confirm Cerebus as scum.

Again, bullshit. Why would the vig shoot ChriVi when they're claimed to be conftown by Cerb? That's retardulous. It makes 100x more sense to shoot Cerb to validate his claim that ChriVi is town.

ChriVi flipping town wouldn't make Cerb town. Cerb flipping town (with the role he claimed), makes Chrivi conftown.

[House]

Why couldn't cerb just kill ChiVi as scum?

Why would he, if he can bamboozle town into thinking that he's a "one way mason"?

Are you seriously trying to sell the idea that scum doesn't gambit? Because if you are, you must be scum because I know for a

fact

that YOU gambit as scum.

[House]

Vote Count 3.06

deathfisaro (6)

- Toon Fighter, Oranje Crush, Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Three-Pronged Trouser God, Drixx, deathfisaro

Oranje Crush (4)

- BBmolla, Narninian, vonflare, LucianRoy

Boonskiies (2)

- ActionDan, Cerberus v666

vonflare (2)

- BRantz, PeregrineV

Not Voting (4)

: Ozgin, ChriVi, Boonskiies, Om of the Nom, Titus

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Om of the Nom is being replaced.

House replaces Ozgin. Thank you!

This is the VC prior to Cerb's claim.

Outing ChriVi as conftown the way he did just put a glaring bullseye on them for scum to take out.

Again, ChriVi was in NO DANGER of being lynched. What do you not understand about that?

[Titus]

So why would scum Cerebus put a big target on someone he could just kill anyway?

That doesn't make sense.

[Titus]

Why couldn't cerb just kill ChiVi as scum?

Why would he, if he can bamboozle town into thinking that he's a "one way mason"?

Are you seriously trying to sell the idea that scum doesn't gambit? Because if you are, you must be scum because I know for a

fact

that YOU gambit as scum.

Of course scum gambit, but there has to be a point. I don't see what scum!Cerebus has to gain.

[House]

So why would scum Cerebus put a big target on someone he could just kill anyway?

That doesn't make sense.

Why kill them when he can use them in his gambit?

If he was town, he wouldn't have painted a bullseye on the ONE PERSON IN THE ENTIRE GAME THAT WAS CONFIRMED TOWN TO HIM.

It makes perfect sense.

[House]

LucianRoy - shoot Cerberus. He's scum and I've given plenty of support for that read.

[Narninian]

Lucian claims to be a 1 shot vig that has already used their 1 shot.

[House]

Lucian claims to be a 1 shot vig that has already used their 1 shot.

That bastard. Ah well, at least he got rid of Pirateika, so I'll forgive him.

[Titus]

House, cool your jets. I don't think we have another vig anyway.

[House]

VOTE: Cerberus 666

Since we have no vig, I'll be voting here until he dies.

[Titus]

Lucian claims to be a 1 shot vig that has already used their 1 shot.

That bastard. Ah well, at least he got rid of Pirateika, so I'll forgive him.

.... you don't know why he shot PI do you?

[Titus]

VOTE: Cerberus 666

Since we have no vig, I'll be voting here until he dies.

Get back on Death. Trust me House. You can check Cerb.

[House]

Lucian claims to be a 1 shot vig that has already used their 1 shot.

That bastard. Ah well, at least he got rid of Pirateika, so I'll forgive him.

.... you don't know why he shot PI do you?

Of course I do. I got Ozgin's results when I subbed in.

What I didn't know was that he was 1-shot.

[House]

VOTE: Cerberus 666

Since we have no vig, I'll be voting here until he dies.

Get back on Death. Trust me House. You can check Cerb.

Not a chance. I'd rather check Death. I already know Cerb is scum.