We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[House]

There are scum cops, so you shouldn't be all... don't lynch the investigatives.

Hell but he's proven to most likely be lying because he's claiming the mod sent him a message stating roleblocked or investigation immune. You know that's not the site practice.

What's your hang up?

My hang up is that investigative roles are too important to just derplynch when they can be cleared/condemned by another investigative role.

[House]

Ok great.

I'm investigating Bulbazak tonight.

if I die, lynch Death & Bulba.

If I'm alive, I'll know exactly what kind of PM Death got from the mod in my results.

Happy?

[Titus]

We have 5 or 6 plus he only checks for a faction that is at best a serial killer which could get 2 positives max.

He's not ZOMG important.

[Titus]

No. I'm not happy. WE aren't lynching Drixx and you won't investigate him.

[House]

We have 5 or 6 plus he only checks for a faction that is at best a serial killer which could get 2 positives max.

He's not ZOMG important.

We have 5 or 6

claims

.

Don't you think it's a wee bit important to know which of those claims are legit

before

they die?

[BBmolla]

Yeah when people are roleblocked (or jailkept which is roleblocked and protected) on this site Death, they do NOT get a role PM. That's standard practice.

wat

[BBmolla]

That's wrong as fuck

If an investigative role is roleblocked they should get "No Result."

[Titus]

Yeah when people are roleblocked (or jailkept which is roleblocked and protected) on this site Death, they do NOT get a role PM. That's standard practice.

wat

People do not get a PM on this site when roleblocked. Standard practice. They just sit there and continue on.

I had this issue in the very first scum game I played here and every game since. Anyone roleblocked is not PMed by the mod stating you were roleblocked.

[Titus]

That's wrong as fuck

If an investigative role is roleblocked they should get "No Result."

Never seen it since I started here. Not once.

[Titus]

We have 5 or 6 plus he only checks for a faction that is at best a serial killer which could get 2 positives max.

He's not ZOMG important.

We have 5 or 6

claims

.

Don't you think it's a wee bit important to know which of those claims are legit

before

they die?

Shrodinger's cat problem.

[Cerberus v666]

Huh. So apparently while I was working I missed a push on me by House. I'm not really going to dignify it with a defense, unless anyone thinks it's worth our time for me to rebut his reasons for why I'm scum?

Between boon and death, I feel like it's likely one is scum. I feel that the one more likely scum is boon. That's why I'm not voting for death at this time.

Actually, I just thought about things a bit. I'm evenly split on both being scum. Boon being scum is possible because his move is just protection against being lynched today, but guarantees him getting NK'd as a cop who isn't going to lose his investigation. Death being scum is possible because his claim, if he doesn't find a werewolf tonight, he loses all utility, and thus if he remains alive he can point at being just a VT in this game.

I actually think my lean towards boon scum over death scum is also influenced by the uselessness of boon this game vs the fact that death, at least, actually talks.

[Titus]

@House,

Why don't you investigate Drixx? I'll get egg on my face if wrong and own up to being wrong. Or I'll admit to being completely unpersuasive and that we're both right.

[House]

Huh. So apparently while I was working I missed a push on me by House. I'm not really going to dignify it with a defense, unless anyone thinks it's worth our time for me to rebut his reasons for why I'm scum?

Between boon and death, I feel like it's likely one is scum. I feel that the one more likely scum is boon. That's why I'm not voting for death at this time.

Actually, I just thought about things a bit. I'm evenly split on both being scum. Boon being scum is possible because his move is just protection against being lynched today, but guarantees him getting NK'd as a cop who isn't going to lose his investigation. Death being scum is possible because his claim, if he doesn't find a werewolf tonight, he loses all utility, and thus if he remains alive he can point at being just a VT in this game.

I actually think my lean towards boon scum over death scum is also influenced by the uselessness of boon this game vs the fact that death, at least, actually talks.

^ Chasing after low hanging fruit when Boon's playstyle is to lurk the fuck out of the early game.

Scum.

[Titus]

House, you're not wasting your checks on cops. The legit cops are more likely to be NKed. We want information.

[Cerberus v666]

Lol. House, this is my first game here. I know NOTHING of anyones meta, save drixx's because I've played with him before on other sites. That argument is meaningless.

[House]

Lol. House, this is my first game here. I know NOTHING of anyones meta, save drixx's because I've played with him before on other sites. That argument is meaningless.

You don't have to know anything about Boon's meta for your scumminess to condemn you.

[Cerberus v666]

Also, Titus...that whole redirect plan you had going on earlier...why would you prefer redirecting from me, over redirecting from the cop whose claim you believe? That's...a bit weird. Oversight?

[House]

House, you're not wasting your checks on cops. The legit cops are more likely to be NKed. We want information.

You're right. I'm wasting my check on a reflexive JK and verifying the results death is claiming.

I'm doing that regardless of whether you waste today's lynch on a FUCKING COP.

So you might as well look elsewhere and revisit this tomorrow.

[Cerberus v666]

Your other arguments are wrong too House. I was only referring to that one. As I said, not going to dignify the accusation with a defense.

[Titus]

House, I don't want you wasting your check on someone who is OBVIOUSLY town when you can instead hit obvious scum instead.

You're having us stall a lynch on scum to have you check him. That's a fucking waste.

[House]

Your other arguments are wrong too House. I was only referring to that one. As I said, not going to dignify the accusation with a defense.

There is no defending outing a conftown player that isn't under threat of lynch.

That claim was 100% self-serving scum.

[Titus]

Also, Titus...that whole redirect plan you had going on earlier...why would you prefer redirecting from me, over redirecting from the cop whose claim you believe? That's...a bit weird. Oversight?

That was before House subbed in and I thought he was really obvious town.

Now House is just basically going off the deep end and I'm trying to rein him in.

[BBmolla]

Titus you don't get told you are role locked

But it's site standard to receive an investigation result.

@mod: if a cop was role blocked, would they recieve a pm saying no result?

[House]

House, I don't want you wasting your check on

someone who is OBVIOUSLY town

when you can instead hit obvious scum instead.

You're having us stall a lynch on scum to have you check him. That's a fucking waste.

At least now we've confirmed

one of Bulba and Death is scum.

VOTE: Titus

[Titus]

Your other arguments are wrong too House. I was only referring to that one. As I said, not going to dignify the accusation with a defense.

There is no defending outing a conftown player that isn't under threat of lynch.

That claim was 100% self-serving scum.

Yes there is.

Make sure people don't waste their time pushing and pressuring ChiVi. If you know what people are going to do, saving the town time is very protown.