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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:40 pm

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I doubt we're making the ideal darkness deadline. Even if all the active players in the game were to vote the same player within the next 3 hours.

Shadowcat wrote:A summary of my reads:

<snip>

Your reads weren't exactly unclear, though, so I don't really think a summary was necessary (I could have guessed all that from your posts with the possible exception of the Mikazuki read).

It was the explanation for your reads that's unclear (and I guess how and why they have or haven't changed over the course of the game, but that's something that could be discussed after the explanations are given).

It's kind of getting ridiculous that both your heads have not been able to talk about your reads in the 9 RL days this game has been going for (not including the night phase). I understand busy schedules and other things that could be affecting your time, but really.

Heck, I don't even care so much about you going into detail as you giving reasons at all. I have a vague understanding that you think my play is "scummy" and that you think Loki hasn't been "playing to his town meta" and that you have a gut read scum read on Skold and now I guess I know you're uncertain on Mikazuki. I'm not looking for a ten-thousand-word essay with a complete bibliography full of references. Just elaboration.
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:54 pm

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Anyway, since we're not making the 96-hour deadline (probably), I'm just going to add 48 hours to the ideal deadline.

I'm rather disappointed with how this day phase has played out. Though I suppose if either or both of Skold and Shadowcat are scum, then technically stalling is in their best interests. Whatever.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:57 pm

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I will lynch skold.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:00 pm

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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 5:12 pm

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I'll be moving my pseudo-vote to one of Skold or Shadowcat in the next 12-24 hours (pending any content from them and what I think of said content if it ever appears).

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Pseudo-Votecount 2.5


Shadowcat (5)
: , , , ,
Skold (2)
: ,
ZeL1nK2 (1)
:
Thor and Loki (1)
:

Not Pseudo-Voting (3)
: Skold, ZZZX, Witness Protection

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Pseudo-lynch. We're aiming for a lynch within (expired on 2015-04-10 00:00:30).


Spoiler: DAY ONE PSEUDO-VOTECOUNTS
Pseudo-Votecount 1.1 ~


Loki and Thor (2)
: ,
White Narcissus (1)
:

Not Pseudo-Voting (11)
: Ankamius, notscience, Zymf, ZZZX, SXTLHGaiden, Mikazuki, Shadowcat, lufan131, Taly, Witness Protection, Thor and Loki


Pseudo-Votecount 1.2 ~


Loki and Thor (2)
: ,
Taly (1)
:
Skold (1)
:
ZeL1nK2 (1)
:

Not Pseudo-Voting (9)
: Ankamius, notscience, Zymf, ZZZX, Mikazuki, lufan131, Taly, Witness Protection, Thor and Loki


Pseudo-Votecount 1.3 ~


Taly (3)
: , ,
Loki and Thor (1)
:
Skold (1)
:
ZeL1nK2 (1)
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SXTLHGaiden (1)
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White Narcissus (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (6)
: Ankamius, Zymf, ZZZX, Mikazuki, lufan131, Witness Protection


Pseudo-Votecount 1.4 ~


Taly (3)
: , ,
Loki and Thor (1)
:
Skold (1)
:
ZeL1nK2 (1)
:
SXTLHGaiden (1)
:
notscience (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (6)
: Ankamius, Zymf, ZZZX, Mikazuki, lufan131, Witness Protection


Pseudo-Votecount 1.5 ~


Taly (2)
: ,
Loki and Thor (1)
:
Skold (1)
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ZeL1nK2 (1)
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SXTLHGaiden (1)
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notscience (1)
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Witness Protection (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (6)
: Ankamius, ZZZX, Mikazuki, lufan131, Witness Protection,


Pseudo-Votecount 1.5A (NO CHANGE) ~


Taly (2)
: ,
Loki and Thor (1)
:
Skold (1)
:
ZeL1nK2 (1)
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SXTLHGaiden (1)
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notscience (1)
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Witness Protection (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (6)
: Ankamius, ZZZX, Mikazuki, lufan131, Witness Protection,


Pseudo-Votecount 1.6 ~


lufan131 (3)
: , ,
Loki and Thor (1)
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Skold (1)
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ZeL1nK2 (1)
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SXTLHGaiden (1)
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notscience (1)
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Witness Protection (1)
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Shadowcat (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (4)
: ZZZX, Mikazuki, lufan131,


Pseudo-Votecount 1.7 ~


lufan131 (4)
: , , ,
Loki and Thor (1)
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Skold (1)
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ZeL1nK2 (1)
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SXTLHGaiden (1)
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notscience (1)
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Witness Protection (1)
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Shadowcat (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (3)
: ZZZX, lufan131,


Pseudo-Votecount 1.8 ~


lufan131 (5)
: , , , ,
Loki and Thor (1)
:
Skold (1)
:
ZeL1nK2 (1)
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Witness Protection (1)
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Shadowcat (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (4)
: ZZZX, lufan131, ,


Pseudo-Votecount 1.9 (Fixed mistake) ~


L-1 ->
lufan131 (7)
: , , , , , ,
Loki and Thor (1)
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Skold (1)
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ZeL1nK2 (1)
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Shadowcat (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (3)
: lufan131, ,


Spoiler: DAY TWO PSEUDO-VOTECOUNTS
Pseudo-Votecount 2.1 ~


Shadowcat (3)
: , ,
ZeL1nK2 (1)
:

Not Pseudo-Voting (8)
: Ankamius, notscience, Skold, ZZZX, Mikazuki, Witness Protection, Thor and Loki, ZeL1nK2


Pseudo-Votecount 2.2 ~


Shadowcat (3)
: , ,
Skold (2)
: ,
ZeL1nK2 (1)
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Thor and Loki (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (5)
: Ankamius, Skold, ZZZX, Mikazuki, Witness Protection


Pseudo-Votecount 2.3 (Absolutely No Change) ~


Shadowcat (3)
: , ,
Skold (2)
: ,
ZeL1nK2 (1)
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Thor and Loki (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (5)
: Ankamius, Skold, ZZZX, Mikazuki, Witness Protection


Pseudo-Votecount 2.4 (STILL NO CHANGE) ~


Shadowcat (3)
: , ,
Skold (2)
: ,
ZeL1nK2 (1)
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Thor and Loki (1)
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Not Pseudo-Voting (5)
: Ankamius, Skold, ZZZX, Mikazuki, Witness Protection
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:05 pm

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notscience wrote:I will lynch skold.

You were against pushing lufan because the only case on him was "lurker newbie", how is skold different exactly?

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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:10 pm

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White Narcissus wrote:
notscience wrote:I will lynch skold.

You were against pushing lufan because the only case on him was "lurker newbie", how is skold different exactly?

~Wis


Yeah I've been wondering this too, you pvoted Skold a while back, any reason in particular since you don't consider newbie lurking a good reason to lynch?
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:18 pm

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ZeL1nK2 wrote:

It's kind of getting ridiculous that both your heads have not been able to talk about your reads in the 9 RL days this game has been going for (not including the night phase). I understand busy schedules and other things that could be affecting your time, but really.


Speaking of which, how much more conversing with Loki do you need to do before you give us your reads?
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:24 pm

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It's something in my tea, really

and PoE.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:50 pm

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poe? really? So what makes him scum over, say, ZZZX?

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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:00 pm

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There's very likely at least 2 scum left in this game, who's second in line for you on the scum read list after Skold?
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:02 pm

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White Narcissus wrote:poe? really? So what makes him scum over, say, ZZZX?

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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:04 pm

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Bad sign, NS is starting to talk like lufan :lol:
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:11 pm

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It's more an indication of me simply going mad
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:12 pm

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But on a more serious note my change i ndisposition from day 1 until now has a reason thats really not relevant to this game just take my word for it or ask mala if you really care to verify this
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:15 pm

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anyhow the only way this day is ending is by lynching shadowcat. So we can do it soon or we can delay even more and help scum even more.

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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:16 pm

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If shadowcat can't enjoy tea maybe I'll share it with miza
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:31 pm

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White Narcissus wrote:anyhow the only way this day is ending is by lynching shadowcat. So we can do it soon or we can delay even more and help scum even more.

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This sounds reasonable enough to me at this point. Although I'd still be up for lynching another lurker if it ends up coming down to that, the game is stalling pretty badly.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:11 pm

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I will be honest here guys. I find it really hard to read the thread so I will try to catch up using discussion. If there is anything interesting I need to check out discuss it with me. attack me for something/attack someone, etc.

I tried reading and frankly I am lost somewhat.
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:26 pm

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So you have no reads whatsoever?
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:29 pm

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Better question:

Since you've at least read part of the thread, if I asked you for the top 2 players you'd like to/be alright with lynching right now, what names come to mind?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:10 pm

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dont mind lynching Shadow or Skold mainly for reasons everybody know
I feel ank is scum but that mostly a gut read.
ns is town.Zel1nk feels town too.
Thor/Loki is mostly in the null as in I have no allignment in mind.
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:13 am

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Ankamius wrote:I meant primarily what changed between the first post and the next two. The first makes it look like you think he's scum with inside information, but you throw doubt on that theory in the other two, but keep that suspicion there. I don't understand what would prompt that.

The second post () was just my reply to WN's comment on the first post, explaining why I raised the point. It didn't represent a change in my thinking. That change came after Zymf's response. It was the tone of his posts coupled with my past experience of playing with him. Yes, it's limited. That's one of the reasons why I said I still had reservations about him.

Ankamius wrote:Yes, I wanted you to go into why you think that would too overpowered of a role to have in the game.

Because if multiple people on multiple nights could access the benefit it could make it almost impossible for scum to get rid of PRs, even with the downside that the PRs use would be limited by it.


White Narcissus wrote:anyhow the only way this day is ending is by lynching shadowcat. So we can do it soon or we can delay even more and help scum even more.

~Wis

You do know that you have misread me in most, if not all, of the games we have played together, don't you? And you're doing it here too.


ZZZX wrote:dont mind lynching Shadow or Skold mainly for reasons everybody know

Who is "everybody", and what reasons have they given? And what do you think of those reasons?
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:14 am

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ZeL1nK2 wrote:Your reads weren't exactly unclear, though, so I don't really think a summary was necessary (I could have guessed all that from your posts with the possible exception of the Mikazuki read).

It was the explanation for your reads that's unclear (and I guess how and why they have or haven't changed over the course of the game, but that's something that could be discussed after the explanations are given).

It's kind of getting ridiculous that both your heads have not been able to talk about your reads in the 9 RL days this game has been going for (not including the night phase). I understand busy schedules and other things that could be affecting your time, but really.

Don't kid yourself, the summary wasn't for your benefit. It was partly for me to get all my reads in one place and partly so that others could see where I stood.

Yes gut reads are unclear, by their very nature, and hopefully we can refine them as the game goes on. Believe me, I am just as frustrated as you are that I haven't been able to get my case on you sorted out because it means I'm not able to get others to see what I'm seeing. If you just want reasons without the detail then I can tell you that some of your reactions to peoples posts looked opportunistic, but without the detail that doesn't mean much.

Real life takes precedence over a game every time and when things go wrong as they have, particularly for Mala, the game sometimes has to take a back seat, yet in spite of that I have still maintained my regular level of posting, an average of one to two posts a day. I just haven't had the extra time I need to do a full reread.

I think you need to take a reality check here. Take a look at the activity overview. Look at the two highest posters, the next three, and then the remaining seven live players. When a few players go charging ahead it makes it a lot more difficult for the others which is fine for you if you are scum, but not very helpful if you are town.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:17 am

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I'm not sure how to feel about ZZZX at this point. Not really reading the entire thread or giving reasoned reads indicates to me a lack of willingness to scum hunt which is not a good look. Still, I'll keep an eye out for you participating in discussions from now on.
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