We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Titus]

@Bulb, I get where that feels like a contradiction but Cerebus technically isn't a mason but I consider the pair to be masonish because of the mod confirmation.

Also, Death is derp town.

@House, Back from my meeting, let's discuss Oranje.

[Titus]

I feel the most dissonance on them..the claim sucks but their play has picked up as of late.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

@Bulb, I get where that feels like a contradiction but Cerebus technically isn't a mason but I consider the pair to be masonish because of the mod confirmation.

Also, Death is derp town.

@House, Back from my meeting, let's discuss Oranje.

Okay, I can kinda see that, but what mod confirmation?

Meh...I really want to hear Bulb's thoughts on that before I let that read go.

I...guess so? (@4801) I suppose his rage sounds townish.

[Titus]

@Bulba, Cerebus said his role PM confirms ChiVi as town. That's what I meant by confirmation. It's masonish but not masons. It's easier heuristically to lump them in as mason claimers even though neither of them is a legit mason. ChiVi is the closest.

Yeah, I'm kinda like I guess so on OC as well. Boon investigating them would be a good idea. :nod:

That's the thing about having all the investigators claim. Scum can realistically only fuck with so many. They won't live too long, but we'll get a lot from them.

[Titus]

Derp, OC are commuters.

@OC, please don't commute. Town doesn't gain much from you commuting. I know that's not exactly a huge relief to you, but having the ability to actually investigate you is helpful if we want it.

[Cerberus v666]

Derp, OC are commuters.

@OC, please don't commute. Town doesn't gain much from you commuting. I know that's not exactly a huge relief to you, but having the ability to actually investigate you is helpful if we want it.

...

Vote: Titus

[LucianRoy]

I don't even know anymore.

[House]

Sure.

Cerberus is scum.

Discuss.

I'm still not completely understanding this read because I feel like you're continuing to ignore the events around the ACTUAL 1-way claim so you can still say "nup nup claim=bad"

How about the fact that 1-way mason is a bullshit claim in general and that it'd be a hell of a lot more believable if he'd have said, "informed townie"?

[Oranje Crush]

VOTE: Titus
I admit, I've got some catching up to do. However that looks like an attempt at being able to kill the invincable townie after an attempt at lynching him failed. Of cause I'll commute tonight, especially now mafia are very tempted to target us tonight.
Rereading rest after school.
~wgeurts

[House]

I refuse to check Oranje.

Period.

Commute, dude.

[Titus]

You've got to be kidding me.

I don't want you lynched OC as I'm leaning town on your slot. If House actually checked you, you could commute every day without concern about being lynched.

*sigh*

I seriously give up. I don't get what y'all do not understand.

This game has ceased to be fun.

Sorry Bulba. Good luck.

Mod: Replace me. I am not having fun. I appreciate the time you guys put in here and players deserve to enjoy this. I'm not enjoying being villified and insulted for my opinions.

[Narninian]

boo

[Titus]

Boo what, that I'm tired of being berated for disagreeing with everyone? Should I stay where I'm not wanted and therefore not helping town?

Do I replace out? Or is that strategic?

I don't care. I'm not having fun being berated, called various forms of dumb or insane for this. It's one thing to have a player tunnel you. It's another to be assaulted for having an opinion despite trying to work with people.

[Titus]

My job is to help town win and that's what I have to do. I'm not staying where I'm just unwanted.

I'll make a last readwall here.

[Titus]

It will be more detailed than basic colors.

[Cerberus v666]

I don't think you're being dumb. I just think it's kinda sorta pretty scummy to ask OC to not commute.

[Cuttlefish]

Vote Count 3.09

Titus (7)

- Drixx, Boonskiies, Three-Pronged Trouser God, Toon Fighter, BBmolla, Cerberus v666, Oranje Crush

Drixx (6)

- ChriVi, Narninian, House, BRantz, LucianRoy, Bulbasaur Commonwealth

BBmolla (1)

- deathfisaro, Titus

Oranje Crush (1)

- vonflare

Boonskiies (1)

- ActionDan

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- PeregrineV

Not Voting (1)

: Om of the Nom

With 18 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-04-11 10:14:33).

Deadline is suspended while I search for replacements.

Om of the Nom, ActionDan, vonflare and Titus are being replaced.

It is possible that some roles were altered for balance after the 13p games were combined if the role(s) would have resulted in a severe balance issue. Otherwise, the roles were left intact.

[House]

My job is to help town win and that's what I have to do. I'm not staying where I'm just unwanted.

I'll make a last readwall here.

[Titus]

Spoiler: Shorthand reads

Legend:

Heavily town reads or conftown (me only)

Moderate Town Leans, Good play, decent claims

Weak town reads, strong reads or bad plays

Scumread, but the votecount suggests he can only be one faction, so this read needs to be redone

Scummy scum

Getting Replaced and Not Enough Content to Get a Read

1. Narninian

3. Toon Fighter

4. Oranje Crush (BROseidon & wgeurts)

5. Ozgin House

6. ActionDan

7. Three-Pronged Trouser God (Untrod Tripod & kuribo & T-Bone)

8. Bulbasaur Commonwealth (Bulbazak & mastin2 & Voidedmafia)

9. ChriVi (Chrimi & Viomi)

11. Boonskiies
12. Drixx

13. PeregrineV

14. vonflare

15. Cerberus v666

16. BRantz

18. LucianRoy

21. deathfisaro

22. Om of the Nom

23. Titus

25. BBmolla

Spoiler: Explained Reads

1. Narninian - His actions have been pretty consistently protown. If he was scum, he could have claimed that redirected kill and I don't think anyone of us would have batted an eye at that. He hasn't contributed much to divide the group either. His actions have fostered a sense of unity. I do have a nagging feeling he could be scum with BB faking us out, but I think that's paranoia and not worth pursuing.
3. Toon Fighter - Mason claim, should not be lynched but has only come up to insult me. Boo.
4. OC - Pretty town but has a fucked up claim. I'm thinking the claims might all have a positive and negative to them if town for the setup.
5. House - Has an aversion to actually making decent checks or being protown but that's usual House so bleh. His response to Drixx's melodrama was protown. I'll probably become more confident on House as time progresses. Not worth lynching.
6. ActionDan - Lurky Lurk.
7. TPTG - Anti-town as fuck, but claimed mason. Not worth a lynch. That's only because of their claim though.
8. Bulba - Shining example of towniness, trying to get people to work together.
9. ChiVi - Conftown from Cerebus, who gains zero if he lies regardless of alignment. Didn't like the early lurk but last posting has been decent.
11. Boon - Lurksack, missed action. Shows up only to defend himself.
12. Drixx - I've said enough.
13. PV - Lurksack
14. Vonflare - Has played like scum, but VC 1.06 says he's not likely Volcano Mafia. Not sure I'd want to lynch here but it's not a horrible decision either. Just risky.
15. Cerebus - Good town play, minorly suspicious claim, not worth lynching. Will give us setup info by checking BB.
16. BRantz - Needs to do more, burning his "get out of jail free cards" were good, but he only did that after pressure...still OP as fuck for scum to have. Bleh.
18. Lucian - Hat buddies. Been productive and team player.
21.Death - Terrible communication of how he had his role combined with something I did not expect made him look scummy. The communication I'm convinced came from him being a newbie rather than mal-intent. Town lean.
22. Om - Lurker Sack. Pushed only town and vanished. If a lurker is lynched, lynch here.
23. Me.
25. BB - Could be InuYasha trick, bleh would like him to try and get his townreads together more and push his scumreads rather than just labeling people anti-town.

I will keep posting until the mods replace me, as the slot is not yet replaced, but I'll be avoiding it largely. If the mods struggle to find a replacement, I'll revoke if things cool down and I start enjoying it again.

[Titus]

The mods need four replacements and I get the feeling it would be really unbalanced if town was missing a doublevoter for a few days... so yeah...

[Cerberus v666]

Hmm. We're heading towards a path that results in us NOT triggering BB today. Don't fall for the trap.

Unvote. Vote:BBMolla

I won't be voting for someone else until I'm sure we can trigger this.

[Narninian]

I agree with Molla, the wagons have been shifting so much.
Drixx/Oranje - Top lynch choices
Boonskies/Action Dan - Second choices

Vote: BBMolla

[Titus]

Yeah, just confirmation. I can stay until replacements are found. I will but I'm not responding to anymore

Titus is so stupid for not believing the masons are conftown.
Titus is stupid for wanting the commuter to be cleared so he could be added to the townblock.
Titus is stupid for actually not wanting to lynch Cerb so he can get us more information.
Titus is stupid for actually thinking that a doublevoter can punish someone for not nightskipping.
Titus is stupid for suggesting "hat buddies" as a way of getting the town to work together as it is cliquish.

I'm not responding to anymore of that shit. I'm done with that. I will suggest what I think is the best action for town. Civil disagreement is fine. Being berated for such is not. I'm not getting into a pissing match regarding my credibility. These are unpopular opinions. They are my opinions. Telling me that it's obvious or objective that I am wrong will get you nowhere. This is my attempt to work with people as town. I never intended for the thing to be as big with Drixx as it did. I intended him to play pro to whatever his wincon is by actually contibuting.

I definitely didn't intend the TPTG thing to get as big as it did. I still don't get their fucking problem and I don't think I ever will until absolutely confirmed. I will just not place them as conftown, especially given their dramatic response given my mere suspicion of them.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

How about the fact that 1-way mason is a bullshit claim in general and that it'd be a hell of a lot more believable if he'd have said, "informed townie"?

...Actually, if I can put on my zany theory hat on (which is totally borrowed from Titus), what if he actually

is

an "informed townie" but upped it to a mason claim, either to save time or to try and increase the pool of heavily town/near-conftown players? Or both?

VOTE: Titus
I admit, I've got some catching up to do. However that looks like an attempt at being able to kill the invincable townie after an attempt at lynching him failed. Of cause I'll commute tonight, especially now mafia are very tempted to target us tonight.
Rereading rest after school.
~wgeurts

Question: WHY would Titus-scum shoot you, anyways?

*snip*

Jesus, dudette. You went through worse in HUB and that X-Men game.

I mean, yeah, TPTG at the very least is being dumb with this push (NO, KURIBO, I AM NOT GOING TO GO ALL "Yes, Trouser-god-sama!" WITH YOU JUST BECAUSE OF WHO YOU ARE OR THE FACT THAT YOU CLAIMED MASONS. LYNCHING TITUS SERVES NOTHING BUT YOUR OWN SELF-INTEREST AND WILL HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO POSITIVE EFFECT ON THIS GAME. Even if said passive-aggressiveness, if true, is annoying as fuck. Simmer on that read. Rage about it all you want, but don't fucking go there. Not fucking today.)

(Also, no, I don't give a shit about whether or not I'm defending Titus or not (well, I am, but yknow) or if that makes me buddies with him or something. It's a stupid-ass push for today, you should stop pushing it for today, and hold onto that rage-jism so you can spew it tomorrow morning with your morning godwood. Capice?)

I agree with Molla, the wagons have been shifting so much.
Drixx/Oranje - Top lynch choices
Boonskies/Action Dan - Second choices

Vote: BBMolla

You...Are aware of how cogdis this is? I mean, I know that you're stated interest is in activating Molla, but still.

P-EDIT: Well, Drixx is the one inflating the problem, not you. Seriously, dude, stop. Fucking. Talking. About. Titus. No one gives a shit anymore about whether or not you're right or wrong. If that D2 argument comes up again, and unless you are SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR YOUR SPECIFIC PERSPECTIVE OF IT, keep. Your mouth.

Fucking

. SHUT.

PERIOD[/].

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

...Ye gods, this has got to be the angriest I've ever been at a game before.

-Ivy