White Flag Mafia [TM2015] (Game Over)

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.26

Aeronaut (5) - Regfan, Llamarble, Cogito Ergo Sum, Oversoul, Zachrulez
ika (3) - Cheery Dog, BlueBloodedToffee, Ankamius
Psyche (2) - Antihero, theelkspeaks
theelkspeaks (1) - Aeronaut

Not Voting (2) - ika, Psyche

With 13 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Monday, April 13, 2015, at 9:00 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-04-13 21:00:00).

Moderator Comments

Aeronaut is V/LA until April 11.

[Ankamius]

I would be totally okay with an ika wagon.

Rereading Aeronaut now.

How come he has become readable today now?

I can't really describe it per se, but something about the way ika and his team went about the elk wagon feels way off. I especially don't really understand GIF suddenly reaching out to me about the elk wagon when we're on opposite sides of that issue to suddenly agree with me.

I wouldn't be surprised if something was lost in translation, but I've playing a hydra game with GIF before and I can't figure out why he would suddenly switch his read on elk like this. The only time I remember him having a sudden read change like that out of nowhere was when he mistook one player for another, and I don't exactly see that being a likely possibility here.

[Psyche]

My teammates say I should vote for Aero again just because of the people on his wagon.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I wouldn't be surprised if something was lost in translation, but I've playing a hydra game with GIF before and I can't figure out why he would suddenly switch his read on elk like this. The only time I remember him having a sudden read change like that out of nowhere was when he mistook one player for another, and I don't exactly see that being a likely possibility here

Multiple people in this game have made the exact same read change; 'marble even explicitly laid out reasoning for elk being town in #224, shortly before GIF changed his mind.

Anyway, you've wasted enough of our time. Can we finally get our Aerolynch?

[Cheery Dog]

Well it's even harder when I made that question forgetting who had actually posted along those lines of ika not being readable until later.

[Regfan]

Still no scumflip makes me very sad, I was looking forward to it after work. Heading straight to bed I think, exhausted.

Psyche, you should listen to your team here (Especially since you're kind of not doing a single thing yourself).

After running around in ISOs for about 20 minutes and then returning to this post, I'm pretty sure the problem was I misworded Psyche flipping scum as town. The reason is because their interactions looks really jagged on Psyche's side whenever they have them.

Yeah, though that might have been the case but if it wasn't wanted it really explained since I couldn't follow the logic of "X player being town makes Z y other player even more likely to be town based on their interactions".

[BlueBloodedToffee]

If the Aero wagon's not done by the time I'm free again, you can still expect something later from me before the Day's end!

Still waiting for this 'something'...

know what the best thing is? its a great WIFOM generator.

No, it isn't. It's scummy.

[Cheery Dog]

Wifom generators are scummy well done on working that out!

[theelkspeaks]

Copper is concerned about the fact that the Aero wagon was done while he was RL away for a few days and with it being a counterwagon to ika and Psyche, wondering whether the inherent delay for Aero to return made him a good wagon choice for scum because the time it took for Aero to respond to it would dispel pressure from ika/Psyche.

Both he and I think that Aero's actual posts are scummy though.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Vote Count 1.19

Aeronaut (4) - Zachrulez, Regfan, Oversoul, Llamarble
Psyche (2) - Antihero, theelkspeaks
Cheery Dog (1) - Cogito Ergo Sum
ika (1) - Cheery Dog
Llamarble (1) - Ankamius
Oversoul (1) - BlueBloodedToffee
theelkspeaks (1) - Aeronaut

Not Voting (2) - ika, Psyche

With 13 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Monday, April 13, 2015, at 9:00 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-04-13 21:00:00).

This minus the 'marble vote was the vote count when Aeronaut declared his V/LA.

So you can put that idea out of your mind and vote for Aeronautscum.

[ika]

@BBT you gonna tell me how its smatics yet or will you finally admit what you said is not what it was

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You have done nothing in this entire game (bar our brief discussion which was nothing to write home about.)

[ika]

so me talking to you is not doing anything?
so me asking you quesitons is not doing anything?
so my interacting with you is not doing anyhting?
so me posting is not doing anything?
so me shouting i want hammer is not doing anything?

pedit: oh, neat, looks like scums want to myslynch me later!

No, it isn't.
Your questions are aimless/empty.
You only started interacting with me when I said I thought you could be scum.
Your posts are full of nothing/fluff/empty questions.
Of course you want to hammer. That's obvious.

shall i bring this up again? cus everything past that is implying im doing something

[BlueBloodedToffee]

/kill me.

You've done nothing. I'm not going into semantics with you.

Try harder.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You want me to say you done something that contained a whole lot of nothing?

Is that more accurate?

Sure, I can say that.

[theelkspeaks]

VOTE: :Aero

[BlueBloodedToffee]

The timing.

[Psyche]

should i do it
should i do it
should i do it

[ika]

VOTE: areo

done

@BBT why cant you just go into sematics?

[ika]

or let me rephrase, why do you think its nothing when everyone else thinks or seems to imply otherwise?

[Psyche]

i was going to do something instead that would have been cool

[Equinox]

Vote Count 1.27

Aeronaut (7) - Regfan, Llamarble, Cogito Ergo Sum, Oversoul, Zachrulez, theelkspeaks, ika
ika (3) - Cheery Dog, BlueBloodedToffee, Ankamius
Psyche (1) - Antihero
theelkspeaks (1) - Aeronaut

Not Voting (1) - Psyche

With 13 alive, it will take 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Monday, April 13, 2015, at 9:00 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-04-13 21:00:00).

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While Aeronaut's head was turned, the other players pointed fingers in his general direction and then reached over to flip his card. The card slipped from someone's fingers, revealing it to be a town card.

Aeronaut,

town vanilla

, was lynched on Day 1!

Night 1 begins now. The deadline is Saturday, April 11, 2015, at 4:00 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-04-11 16:00:00).

[Equinox]

At the end of the night, Llamarble never made it home.

Llamarble,

town vanilla

, has died on Night 1!

Day 2 begins now.

Vote Count 2.00

Not Voting (11) - Ankamius, Antihero, BlueBloodedToffee, Cheery Dog, Cogito Ergo Sum, ika, Oversoul, Psyche, Regfan, theelkspeaks, Zachrulez

With 11 alive, it will take 6 to lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, April 25, 2015, at 4:30 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-04-25 16:30:00).

[Oversoul]

VOTE: CES

Tammy and I agree on something!

[Zachrulez]

Bolded makes absolutely no sense to me, fact they come back to back make it even worse. TTH's reads pretty much consist of stating a scum read on Ika, Elk and Psyche in Post 81 and then adding CES to the list in Post 135 so if the players you're wanting lynched/not trusting include Ika/Elk/Psyche/CES 3/4 of them are not on the wagon ie. Shouldn't that make it a good wagon for you? I'll rephrase since I don't feel like I'm being clear enough; you not liking the wagon doesn't add up since there are several different wagon combinations you'd say the same (or worse) about and nearly none you'd be able to claim to like. You using the wagon-dynamic to avoid getting on really reaaaaaally looks like wanting to dodge lynching a partner here and has p much entirely killed any inkling of a town read I still had on you.

assumption: everyone is either a townread or a scumread

not so

tth is saying that aero's chances of actually flipping scum are pretty much random and i'm inclined to agree with that

Would like you to state more explicitly what you don't like about the aeronaut wagon. Regfan's on point that the majority of your scumreads are not on the wagon. So what's your stance here? That the wagon is town driven on town?

What are your reads of the people on the wagon?

You're coasting along here and it's really bad and you really need to start taking some harder stances.

What did antihero post after I made this post?

Oh that's right! Nothing!

VOTE: Antihero

What's up with that CES vote oversoul? It would take a lot to convince me that he's a good lynch today.