Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[fferyllt]

ffery, Cabd says Empire is town and that he thinks you should already know that. He also wants to know whether you want him to focus on fringes or you just want a general readslist.

empire may be, though we have some intergame stuff we're considering. tammy is town and he/his team not seeing that concerns us.

General would be good for now. during my middle group up or down is my focus right now.

would especially like to know what he thinks of deas, espe, gamma, tth, etc.

still waiting to hear more about cabd reads.

[Untrod Tripod]

I like the warm and fuzzy Titus

also hi singer!

[Titus]

@UT I'll try to keep it up. It's easier in the earlier game when I don't have many confident scum reads and people stay away from my major townreads. Thanks. My team has really been helping me. The real test of their effectiveness is when I actually DO feel confident in a scumread.

Espy, what are your thoughts on him?

[singersigner]

Yay! Seeing two of my teammates being recruited was sad, and even though larges aren't my favorite, I'm excited I actually get to play!

That being said, Empire didn't explain his read on TTH, but Zar's been filling me in with regards to major events so I can catch up quicker...I'm not really going to speculate on his reads since he's read the game in real time and I obviously haven't, except to say that UT is a pretty universal scum read with my team, and I'm personally paranoid about CDB based on our last game together. Ffery's probably gunna kill me for that comment.

Also, I've read up on all of six pages of this game so far: first four, then from page 62 onward. I'll probably just ISO people and see where my team directs me and go from there? Anything else important people want me to comment on?

[Bulbazak]

@Singer: Thoughts on Vezok and Gamma when you have the chance.

[Untrod Tripod]

UT is a pretty universal scum read with my team

well your team is real dumb

[Titus]

@Singer, I just jump in and look at Espy and Bulba if you're looking for ISOs in particular. I never read upon replacing in. Get a grip on the mechanics. We spent a while on that. If you want, I can give you the basic flow of the game.

@UT, Calling her team dumb is not exactly the best way to get them to change their minds.

[Cheetory6]

can you guys just wake me for day 5

:c

I had a brief moment of inspiration today in which I felt like I could take on the world and metadive Bulba while still keeping up with various things. But then headache and now that's just not happening.
I'm just gonna settle for nullscum read there and hopefully get enough motivation to try and do a back-&-forth with you sometime later this cycle @Titus, because the thought of a big logical argument just kind of makes me feel like slinking into my bed atm. q.q

[Espeonage]

Do you want me to pull stuff out of my ass or actually give you what I do think Titus?

[Titus]

@Cheetory, Leave. Come Back. It's fine by me. You and Vezok seem to be on the same page. What would really be useful for me to understand your read is a scum game that matches this meta and an explanation of why. :nod: No rush.

I'd like to have a lynch by middeadline so we aren't rushing the second one. We'll see on that.

[Titus]

Do you want me to pull stuff out of my ass or actually give you what I do think Titus?

Whatever matches your win. I ain't telling you what to do. I'd prefer the latter but you're going to do whatever you want.

[Cheetory6]

I'd like to have a lynch by middeadline so we aren't rushing the second one. We'll see on that.

I wouldn't mind using full deadline personally. We lose ffery after this cycle so we might as well get maximum ffery overdrive scumhunting pewpewpew while we have it.

What would really be useful for me to understand your read is a scum game that matches this meta and an explanation of why. :nod: No rush.

Will try to hunt for something that Tier had in mind tomorrow if I don't feel like death.

[Espeonage]

Then I got nothing. But he's on my radar for reasons.

[Titus]

@Cheetory, you could just have Tier do it. I don't care who it comes from.

[Titus]

@Espy, What reasons or are they

reasons

?

[Cheetory6]

Tier seems pretty busy atm. Don't want to bug him too much on this but I'm sure he can at least point me in the right direction.

@TTH

, can you walk through your read on Marquis in more detail?

[Espeonage]

@Espy, What reasons or are they

reasons

?

'reasons'

It requires me to do some reading which I haven't gotten around to. And I don't want to bring it up.

[Titus]

@Espy,

Ok. Then it's

reasons

.

[Titus]

@FFery,

Do you think my idea to lynch at middeadline and then lynch at the end of the day is a good one?

[singersigner]

@Singer: Thoughts on Vezok and Gamma when you have the chance.

I believe vezok to be town. *shocking* He's never struck me as the kind of person to be able to pull off a fake claim very well, and even with coaching, I read him as genuinely believing he caught someone in a scummy act.

With regards to Gamma...you're gunna have to be more specific at this point. Vezok was relevant with regards to the game state and information I'm working with, and as far as I can tell...Gamma sure is...a player...

From what little I've read, it feels like TTH should be the lynch for today, so we actually have a flip and interactions to work with. We can talk ourselves into oblivion with how many people are "playing" this game. I know we're working hard on accuracy here, so I guess if anyone's super offended by the risk then they can make a more convincingly better suggestion?

[Titus]

@Singer,

I started that wagon on TTH with the intent of dragging him back into the game and getting involved. I'm not a big fan of actually lynching him. I'd rather focus on getting stable townreads and lynch whoever isn't actually in said group. Then we can take what we learned. I don't think much would be learned from lynching TTH. Lynching someone people are actually pushing as scum seems to be a better idea.

We also have two lynches today if we fit them both in by the day deadline.

[Bulbazak]

I have the same feelings regarding the TTH wagon as I did with the Shos wagon in Unbalanced 2. It's a bad lynch.

[Titus]

@Bulba, I get TTH being a bad lynch. How is the wagon similar to shos? Shos wagon, as far as I know, everyone intended to lynch Shos.

[Bulbazak]

I didn't like the composition of the Shos wagon. I felt it was a bad wagon that built up too fast and was being championed by scum. I feel the same way about the TTH wagon. There were only two people with good reasons for being on that wagon, and neither of them are pushing it now.

[Espeonage]

Vote: Aronis