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Post Post #4925 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:45 am

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BRantz wrote:Yes the freekazoid is me. Forgot I was logged into my hydra.

@PV: Are you just seeping house or do you have reasons of your own?


Doesn't matter. Unless somebody steps up and says, "ActionDan completely stops questioning/voting scumspects for no good reason when he's town", then he's scum.


Not liking the binary thinking. He's had weeks between posts. It's possible he forgot/got distracted. This isn't an easy game House.


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Post Post #4926 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:23 am

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Titus wrote:@BC, but why? Weren't there a few other PRs that had claimed at that point that would be more pressing to block than a mislynch target?

BB's got a passive-ish role; can't really block him from activating as an RB.

Marquis could've been an RB target, but he died (anyways?), and his ability was for the day, not night. PIka's was just night, so there'd be no way to.

Kuribo/TF are masons, can't block that.

Lucian's a dayvig, so can't really block that.

Chrivi and Cerb are neighbors/masons (or being treated as the latter for now), so we can't block that. And cerb only claimed the active part of his role today, so unless Cerb and PIka were on the same team PIka couldn't have known to block Cerb anyways (and in that case, why would they?)

Jackel claimed tracker, but he died via lynch D1. Can't block the dead.

Drixx is a BP (if you believe him, anyways). Can't block that.

Can't block your DV.

Could've blocked Copper's role, but that'd be a waste this early in as Copper's role gets more powerful as the days go on and more actions are used (I don't think he should've claimed D1, in hindsight, honestly; might not have bit the bullet N2 otherwise).

Narn didn't claim redirector until D2, and his ability has gone off without a hitch, so he couldn't have been the target.

I believe Ozgin got his ability off, and he didn't claim D1 anyways so it's not like they could've possibly known to RB him. Unless Ozgin gave hints he'd investigate PIka. Not sure if he did or not.

Dan's also a BP. Can't block that.

We're a reflexive JK, and you can't block that, I don't think. Besides, we only claimed today, so they couldn't have known.

Boon only just claimed today, although his ability would've been blockable.

PV, von, and Om haven't claimed.

Death is in the same boat as Boon: Ability that's blockable, but didn't claim until today.

Soren/Magua could've been blocked D1, but Mag didn't claim until D2.

Soyeah, there weren't THAT many claimed roles D1 that could've been blocked. Although, I'd think that action resolution would have RB go before a commute, but what do I know?

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PeregrineV wrote:@Whoever- to get clarification on the whole thing. Turns out it was interpretation instead.

You mean your vote on us was...interpretation?

Really?

Titus wrote:@All - Are we looking at Boxxed scum that cannot find a mislynch to push?

Drixx would be an easy-as-hell to push mislynch, as would any lurker, honestly. So I'm not sure what's keeping them from pushing these.

House wrote:I'll consider your words with more than a grain of salt tomorrow.

And if Dan gets replaced instead of coming back?

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Post Post #4927 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:31 am

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@BC, Maybe Drixx isn't town but they are provoking instead me instead to divert? UT said he loved doing that in Uncouth mafia. Why else would it take so long? Why not push Drixx when I posted a big case explaining exactly why he was scum?
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Post Post #4928 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:38 am

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Titus wrote:@BC, Maybe Drixx isn't town but they are provoking instead me instead to divert? UT said he loved doing that in Uncouth mafia. Why else would it take so long? Why not push Drixx when I posted a big case explaining exactly why he was scum?

Provoking you to attack to be the one on the defensive and thus the one most likely to receive sympathy, you mean?
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Post Post #4929 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:39 am

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@BC, No. Defensive!Titus, Tunnely!Titus might be more townread but I'm not followed very often. To basically discredit me, they make me more combative. Look at UT's post game comments for Uncouth.
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Post Post #4930 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:52 am

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Titus wrote:@BC, No. Defensive!Titus, Tunnely!Titus might be more townread but I'm not followed very often. To basically discredit me, they make me more combative. Look at UT's post game comments for Uncouth.

So they make you be tunnely?

(trying to follow your logic here, sorry if I'm being slow)
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Post Post #4931 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:14 pm

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Post Post #4932 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:54 pm

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Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:
Titus wrote:@BC, No. Defensive!Titus, Tunnely!Titus might be more townread but I'm not followed very often. To basically discredit me, they make me more combative. Look at UT's post game comments for Uncouth.

So they make you be tunnely?

(trying to follow your logic here, sorry if I'm being slow)


No. Once they realized I was getting tunnelly on Drixx and I was never going to let him go, they deliberately got me to do things you all would see as "combative" and "hostile" to make my arguments less persusasive.

Read UT's comments post game in Uncouth.
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Post Post #4933 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:56 pm

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It would be a lot nicer if you all stopped trying to make me spend my time reading things from other games as justifications for actions, or as a substitute for actually explaining yourself in depth.
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Post Post #4934 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:16 pm

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Cerberus v666 wrote:It would be a lot nicer if you all stopped trying to make me spend my time reading things from other games as justifications for actions, or as a substitute for actually explaining yourself in depth.


Psst: You can get some towncred by bussing ActionDan if you do it before his lynch becomes inevitable.
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Post Post #4935 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:29 pm

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Titus wrote:Read UT's comments post game in Uncouth.

Honestly not feeling very up to reading other games, even postgame content, but I suppose

(wouldn't hurt you that damn much to give cliff notes)

House, you aren't going to get Cerb lynched, so please stop sniping at him. Why can't we have an investigative check him?

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Post Post #4936 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:31 pm

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I'll find the quotes... that try to get that...

@BC, House refuses to check Drixx or Cerb despite it being the protown thing to do. It's one of those nagging things about that.
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Post Post #4937 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:33 pm

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Titus wrote:I'll find the quotes... that try to get that...

@BC, House refuses to check Drixx or Cerb despite it being the protown thing to do. It's one of those nagging things about that.


I refuse to make who I plan on checking obvious, for reasons obvious.
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Post Post #4938 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:34 pm

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Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:
Titus wrote:Read UT's comments post game in Uncouth.

Honestly not feeling very up to reading other games, even postgame content, but I suppose

(wouldn't hurt you that damn much to give cliff notes)

House, you aren't going to get Cerb lynched, so please stop sniping at him. Why can't we have an investigative check him?

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You're not even reading my posts. I'm voting & campaigning for ActionDan, not Cerb.
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Post Post #4939 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:38 pm

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House wrote:You're not even reading my posts. I'm voting & campaigning for ActionDan, not Cerb.

Hence "sniping".
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Post Post #4940 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:44 pm

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I don't play for towncred House. I'm leaning a bit scum on actiondan, but not for the reasons you think matter. His super inactivity makes any case based upon him stopping something kinda meaningless, barring proof that he was active elsewhere on the site I suppose...but even then, depending on the number of thigns he's involved in, it could be reasonable then too. I am leaning that way because I feel that drixx's play, notably in the "incident" with Titus was supremely townie(though his checking out of the game due to exasperation and play since have been scummy), and because I also believe only one of the two bulletproof slots are actually town, I believe ActionDan is scum. Bulbas revelation of their role threw a wrench in that thought of mine a bit, because now there are 3 effectively bulletproof roles. In terms of town points though, ActionDan has the least. Bulba's claim is the scummiest of them all, followed by Drixx's.

Anyways, yeah, I'm not opposed to an ActionDan lynch, but I am opposed to people making bad cases, which makes me oppose said lynch because I then distrust the intentions of the person pushing for it.
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Post Post #4941 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:44 pm

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In Uncouth Mafia [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6752156#p6752156]post 1347[/url], Untrod Tripod wrote:also I hate playing scum because when someone has an airtight case on you, it's like "well... I know... and I'm impressed by your deductions....but.... I'm gonna have to be an obstinate dick instead"


This. We had a discussion about how I could improve. I wouldn't be surprised if scum were using the same tactics.
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Post Post #4942 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:47 pm

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VOTE: ActionDan

pedit, cool cerb. Imma go for it.

2pedit, I've removed my self from the discussion so I don't have to deal with scum shouting all the time. More people need to die.
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Post Post #4943 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:47 pm

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Cerberus v666 wrote:I don't play for towncred House. I'm leaning a bit scum on actiondan, but not for the reasons you think matter. His super inactivity makes any case based upon him stopping something kinda meaningless, barring proof that he was active elsewhere on the site I suppose...but even then, depending on the number of thigns he's involved in, it could be reasonable then too. I am leaning that way because I feel that drixx's play, notably in the "incident" with Titus was supremely townie(though his checking out of the game due to exasperation and play since have been scummy), and because I also believe only one of the two bulletproof slots are actually town, I believe ActionDan is scum. Bulbas revelation of their role threw a wrench in that thought of mine a bit, because now there are 3 effectively bulletproof roles. In terms of town points though, ActionDan has the least. Bulba's claim is the scummiest of them all, followed by Drixx's.

Anyways, yeah, I'm not opposed to an ActionDan lynch, but I am opposed to people making bad cases, which makes me oppose said lynch because I then distrust the intentions of the person pushing for it.


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Post Post #4944 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:48 pm

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Scum hunting is pretty arduous at this stage in the game.
It should become clearer in due time.
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Post Post #4945 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:48 pm

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LucianRoy wrote:I trust house.
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VOTE: ActionDan

pedit, cool cerb. Imma go for it.

2pedit, I've removed my self from the discussion so I don't have to deal with scum shouting all the time. More people need to die.


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Post Post #4946 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:57 pm

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Titus wrote:This. We had a discussion about how I could improve. I wouldn't be surprised if scum were using the same tactics.

Well, I'm reading it right now and most of it seems to be based off of the way you're presenting it. So I guess that's a combative factor? *shrug*

Idk, reading the postgame it sounds more like you gotta make yourself be more charismatic and able to be listened to the first time rather than over time (although that'd help a lot, I'm sure.

House: How long RL-day wise?
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Post Post #4947 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:14 pm

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Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:
House: How long RL-day wise?


Last vote on Drixx: March 12
Switched to BB Molla: March 16
Switched to PV: March 16
23 posts between March 16 & March 28
Voted Boonskies: March 28
Last post: April 1st.

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Post Post #4948 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:35 pm

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THat's...a pretty damn good point.

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Post Post #4949 (ISO) » Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:35 pm

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(Whoever nukes, plz nuke Drixx next, kthnx.)
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