White Flag Mafia [TM2015] (Game Over)

Oversoul · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:01 pm

After the Aeronaut flip, I really have no clue about this game anymore. Tammy and I agree that CES rushing the game into night was weird and did not seem particularly town motivated, especially given Aero's town flip.

Zachrulez · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:04 pm

I'm more inclined to lynch off wagon. Especially considering the kill. I'm just feeling with where the wagon stalled at scum were likely sitting back off the wagon knowing what the flip was going to be, and it's also a happy bonus that I find the people off the wagon generally more suspicious than those on.

What do you think about the wagon itself? Do you think my premise is sound?

Regfan · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:11 pm

Still very confident on BBT (Singer told me she thinks she can read BBT after being a scum partner with him in a prior game and will get around to reading him here to confirm this later when she has time), Elk, Zach and Ika are town. Still lean towards Oversoul and CES being town. Significantly less sure about my Ank town read, think Llama dying over me means I probably have a read wrong and here's the only one I can think might be.

CD is still very very likely mafia and as much as it pains me to admit it I probably should have buried my ego and sheeped there D1.

Vote: Cheery Dog

Do need to get a better grip on Anti/Psyche - still think Anti's "wagon is meh" as a reason for not joining doesn't make an ounce of sense given that his scum reads were elsewhere and didn't like his explanation following it up, really need some updated reads from him with reasoning attached.

Psyche - What are your teams thoughts on this game at the moment and why did they think you should have jumped on due to the wagon-make-up?

↑ Oversoul wrote:Tammy and I agree on something!

You're both going to have to explain it for me, I'm not seeing it at all. Still find his comments in Post 49, Post 384 and Post 608 as town.

PEdit: Eh, that really does nothing for me Oversoul, I was also rushing it into night and fairly confident that we were hitting mafia, can very easily understand if CES was in the same boat as me especially since I thought the game was going to be as easy as going 1-2 (And maybe 3) and didn't want to waste time watching my town reads fight over stupid things, so why does that reasoning not lead you to having me as scum then?

Zachrulez · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:15 pm

Yeah, Cheery Dog is another great lynch choice today.

Psyche · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:17 pm

my team is rather useless at the moment
they thought it was safe to vote aero because the others voting him seemed legit

Regfan · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:19 pm

↑ Psyche wrote:my team is rather useless at the moment
they thought it was safe to vote aero
because the others voting him seemed legit

The bolded here is what I want an explanation on; does that mean they had a town read on majority of the wagon or purely thought they were competent player? If it's the earlier would like to hear the exact reads and stances they've given you. Wouldn't mind your own thoughts too.

Psyche · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:25 pm

I don't think they put much thought into it. So probably the latter.
I really wonder how other people's teammates manage to keep up with so many games simultaneously!

Equinox · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:29 pm

Vote Count 2.01Antihero (1) - Zachrulez
Cheery Dog (1) - Regfan
Cogito Ergo Sum (1) - Oversoul

Not Voting (8) - Ankamius, Antihero, BlueBloodedToffee, Cheery Dog, Cogito Ergo Sum, ika, Psyche, theelkspeaks

With 11 alive, it will take 6 to lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, April 25, 2015, at 4:30 PM EDT (UTC-4), which is in (expired on 2015-04-25 16:30:00).

Ankamius · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:23 pm

...right.

I'm going to reset my reads and look at stuff. Probably tomorrow.

ika · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:04 pm

so BBT you gonna answer the questions or tell me how your members are not contradicting you right now?

ika · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 6:05 pm

random gut thoughts: regafan is scum

Cheery Dog · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 9:08 pm

↑ Oversoul wrote:After the Aeronaut flip, I really have no clue about this game anymore. Tammy and I agree that CES rushing the game into night was weird and did not seem particularly town motivated, especially given Aero's town flip.

I'm actually kind of feeling the opposite about CES doing that after he announced he wasn't looking.

It's not like any of the rest of us actually did stuff there.

↑ Zachrulez wrote:I'm more inclined to lynch off wagon. Especially considering the kill. I'm just feeling with where the wagon stalled at scum were likely sitting back off the wagon knowing what the flip was going to be, and it's also a happy bonus that I find the people off the wagon generally more suspicious than those on.

That doesn't douns like normal scum behaviour to me, there would have to be at least one scum on the wagon already.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:30 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:After the Aeronaut flip, I really have no clue about this game anymore. Tammy and I agree that CES rushing the game into night was weird and did not seem particularly town motivated, especially given Aero's town flip.

CES wasn't even the primary person rushing the lynch. Ika was. His timing for his 'activity' was scummy as fuck and yet nobody bats an eyelid because 'lol, it's ika.'

In fact, ika, Psyche and Ank were all pretty scummy towards the end of D1.

↑ Psyche wrote:my team is rather useless at the moment
they thought it was safe to vote aero because the others voting him seemed legit

And you didn't end up voting Aero because...

↑ ika wrote:so BBT you gonna answer the questions or tell me how your members are not contradicting you right now?

What questions ika?

How are my team members contradicting me? We simply disagree on reads, no contradictions. Given that I am the one who has invested the most time into this game I will be trusting my reads over my teams reads.

VOTE: ika

ika · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:47 am

BBT is confirmed not reading thread and has also claimed scum can we lynch him now?

ika · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:52 am

BBT is is not answering my questions also

Zachrulez · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:06 am

You're not even voting for him.

ika · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:09 am

↑ Zachrulez wrote:You're not even voting for him.

i know i want to hammer him. would you vote him if i voted first?

Zachrulez · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:11 am

You just want to hammer period. Let's be real. It's not going to matter who gets run up.

Zachrulez · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:14 am

↑ Cheery Dog wrote:

↑ Zachrulez wrote:I'm more inclined to lynch off wagon. Especially considering the kill. I'm just feeling with where the wagon stalled at scum were likely sitting back off the wagon knowing what the flip was going to be, and it's also a happy bonus that I find the people off the wagon generally more suspicious than those on.

That doesn't douns like normal scum behaviour to me, there would have to be at least one scum on the wagon already.

So what, are you saying you think more are on wagon? I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here.

ika · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:16 am

↑ Zachrulez wrote:You just want to hammer period. Let's be real. It's not going to matter who gets run up.

not really? it was mostly for day 1 so we can move on. but you didnt answer my question, if i voted first would you vote too?

so zach why do you think llarm was killed?

Zachrulez · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:27 am

↑ ika wrote:
↑ Zachrulez wrote:You just want to hammer period. Let's be real. It's not going to matter who gets run up.

not really? it was mostly for day 1 so we can move on. but you didnt answer my question, if i voted first would you vote too?

so zach why do you think llarm was killed?

I'm not particularly interested in lynching BBT. You've said he claimed scum more than once, but I don't see it.

I have no idea why Llamarble was killed. My theory of most of the scum being off wagon combines the factors of how scummy Aero looked, how the wagon formed, and where the nightkill was. (With the idea being that scum would tend to kill where they're not hiding.)

ika · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:30 am

↑ Zachrulez wrote:
↑ ika wrote:
↑ Zachrulez wrote:You just want to hammer period. Let's be real. It's not going to matter who gets run up.

not really? it was mostly for day 1 so we can move on. but you didnt answer my question, if i voted first would you vote too?

so zach why do you think llarm was killed?

I'm not particularly interested in lynching BBT.
You've said he claimed scum more than once, but I don't see it.

I have no idea why Llamarble was killed. My theory of most of the scum being off wagon combines the factors of how scummy Aero looked, how the wagon formed, and where the nightkill was. (With the idea being that scum would tend to kill where they're not hiding.)

bolded: i said he claimed scum, not more then once.

anyway your town now

Zachrulez · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:33 am

You misread. I said you've mentioned a scum claim more than once.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:14 am

↑ ika wrote:
i know i want to hammer him. would you vote him if i voted first?

You're really going to abuse this, huh?

I think I'm going to join the school of hammering anyone that reaches L-1.

I thought it was only Boon that did this.

ika · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 8:30 am

↑ BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
↑ ika wrote:
i know i want to hammer him. would you vote him if i voted first?

You're really going to abuse this, huh?

I think I'm going to join the school of hammering anyone that reaches L-1.

I thought it was only Boon that did this.

so you are implying im town now with this? cus thats what it sounds like right now.