8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Metal Sonic]

Ooh ooh yell yell.

No really, he's claiming that he's fine with getting lynched so that Mollie, his teammate - not him, his teammate - can tell Nacho in later games that he can't read her?

Yeah right

I dunno about how the magic Nacho-read-mollie thing works because

And okay, me claiming to read mollie when she's not even in the game is pretty ridiculous, right?

ya

But if you want to offer yourself up for lynch if EddieFenix flips town

(which is exactly my current theory, by the way)

I will be more than happy to be your witness!

[GreyICE]

Sure.

Oh and by the way, MetalSonic? Go fuck yourself.

[Metal Sonic]

Why was ABR's argument about Kagami = town

Quote the post where ABR mentions that Kagami = town.

[Metal Sonic]

Sure.

Oh and by the way, MetalSonic? Go fuck yourself.

Fuck you too, scumbag

[Metal Sonic]

Let me speed things up a little. I have to crash really soon.

My team thinks Kagami is town, based on her scum game in Inuyasha: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58247

They also think wgeurts and Nacho are scum.

I have some experience with Kagami in MTG mafia. He was consistent, streamlined, didn't make glaring mistakes. Completely under the radar, reasoned and justified reads lists. Titus reports the same thing from Inuyasha.

Kagami isn't going to re-invent the wheel.

It's a high risk lynch. It won't blow the game wide open either. Our safest bets are Seraphim and Sotty.

ABR's premise is that 1. His team has meta evidence 2. His team agreed that Kagami was town 3. ABR had meta evidence of his own.

Non newbie games. Fuck, one of them is currently the longest game in Mafiascum. Nominated for a scummie.

Fuck your newbie game argument, its terrible, you know it, but whoa boy if you think that it cuts half of ABR's assertion.

[Metal Sonic]

Nacho's been star player and my senpai ever since I've joined Mafiascum

he's been in hundreds of mafia games,

and your counter to ABR was a newbie.


I understand that you've been on hiatus on the site for a while. Forgiven.

but. Fuck if you think that it's a "mirror" to ABR's argument.

[Metal Sonic]

If Abr's meta argument was terrible,

Which is a fair stance to take,

In comparison,

Yours goes way down the deep end.


Relativity. Always good in a closed setting.

[GreyICE]

Why was ABR's argument about Kagami = town

Quote the post where ABR mentions that Kagami = town.

My team thinks Kagami is town, based on her scum game in Inuyasha: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58247

They also think wgeurts and Nacho are scum.

I have some experience with Kagami in MTG mafia. He was consistent, streamlined, didn't make glaring mistakes. Completely under the radar, reasoned and justified reads lists. Titus reports the same thing from Inuyasha.

Kagami isn't going to re-invent the wheel.

It's a high risk lynch. It won't blow the game wide open either. Our safest bets are Seraphim and Sotty.

See?

If Abr's meta argument was terrible,

Which is a fair stance to take,

In comparison,

Yours goes way down the deep end.


Relativity. Always good in a closed setting.

See this is what I mean. I gave my actual reasons I thought Nacho was town. Do you pay attention to that? No. You think you stick your hand up your ass and pull out gold nuggets. That's why it's a waste of my fucking time to talk to you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Nacho

I better go with Sonic. Safest bet.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright Eddie, Kagami, Seraphim, put your vote on Nacho now.

[ZZZX]

I trust in my team mates and they dont me not to fk up and lynch town nacho.

@nacho from your last will can you write down a list of people to lynch? i think it is one of the reasons you werent insta lynched. Perhaps your reads were so accurate scum didnt want to get you lynched without defending them selves <<(me & GIF)

[ZZZX]

VOTE: Kagami,,

[Albert B. Rampage]

My trap succeeded. Zzzy has been kicked out of the townblock. If Nacho flips scum, zzzy is 100% scum.

BOOM. Two birds one stone.

Your welcome.

[Albert B. Rampage]

NOW EVERYBODY VOTE NACHO WE GONNA PARTY UP IN HERE

[GreyICE]

Sorry, I forgot my helmet.

[ZZZX]

My trap succeeded. Zzzy has been kicked out of the townblock. If Nacho flips scum, zzzy is 100% scum.

BOOM. Two birds one stone.

Your welcome.

your "opinion" here doesnt quite affect me as much as my team mates. You can just accuse me of whatever you feel like doing.

What is your trap? because you have done nothing worthy of being called a trap.

[ZZZX]

NOW EVERYBODY VOTE NACHO WE GONNA PARTY UP IN HERE

I was told this by my team and I will say it again.

Lets make a deal. If nacho flips town we follow his reads. (why incidentally are the same as mine.)

cool?

[ZZZX]

My trap succeeded. Zzzy has been kicked out of the townblock. If Nacho flips scum, zzzy is 100% scum.

BOOM. Two birds one stone.

Your welcome.

Also this is going to join my sig-party after game woo!

[GreyICE]

I want to sheep Nacho's reads without lynching him. It would be so very much cooler.

That being said, I'll follow confirmed town's plan if ABR is gonna be a ding dong.

[Metal Sonic]

My trap succeeded. Zzzy has been kicked out of the townblock. If Nacho flips scum, zzzy is 100% scum.

BOOM. Two birds one stone.

Your welcome.

We still have time, don't pull the trigger so fast bae~

Llamarble has yet to haul ass, though nacho says he won't be coming :'(

[Zar]

I've been reading the current happenings. Unless you want a wall the size of China in response to EVERYTHING, not every little thing needs a response. Mollie said that if she were in this game, she'd town read him and see from there. It might be my paranoia kicking in, but there's something eating me about Nacho. Going to trust Mollie for now at least until she comes back with something a bit more conclusive. Kagami, for me, is town. Right now, my want for the day is to see GI swing.

Eddie: Can you explain why Kagami is town for you?

Zar / Grey

Actuall Thoughts no nacho?

I like his recent posts better. The way he went about appealing ABR and being encouraging with his townreads feels genuine. He doesn't seem to be freaking out and I gut-liked how he had this post about projecting how things should be after his death.

Nacho two

things:

Can you explain why you're leveling out with Kagami in 1284?

Additionaly, relaying a question from singer regarding your Eddie via Mollie scumread in #1291 - #1293. Did you consider if Mollie's lack of engagement with you may be influenced by her being a replacement into TM?

Oh and

I don't think you see my perspective re: my interactions with your slot. You just replaced out of a game because you didn't want to play delivery boy. I'm a player who absolutely loves Empire, needs to interact with him all the time in order to form a good read there, but didn't get that chance. I wanted to give you space to get into the game and get some reads down before going all EMPIRE EMPIRE EMPIRE because I didn't want to be unfair to you as a player.

Thanks? Except to me it felt that wasn't the case, most of the comments you left seemed to be tailored like "EMPIRE can look town early on that doesn't mean anything"! Which instead of trying to give me space felt more like a side snipe.

[Sotty7]

Sotty I gave you metal sonic meta to look at :/

Oh my bad I'll check it out before the end of today.

I don't see town in Sotty, Seraphim, Eddie. Sotty is still not reaching out to me in this environment when I'm drowning and reaching out to her, and I hate that shit. You're not a player who needs sounding boards to work off of. I understand that. I need sounding boards and Sotty does to, I'm reaching out to her, that's horseshit.

I think mostly our problem is not being around at the same time to have conversations with. I really wish you would just help me wagon Seraphim rather than push on Kagami. I'm not getting it. I must have missed your Metal meta earlier but I promise I will check it out because I feel myself flipping on him all the time. His interactions with you about Mollie for one feel SUPERTOWN but his arguments against myself and GreyICE just don't add up when you but them together. I just feel like I am here in my corner swimming against the grain and it's really frustrating. The Hoopla wagon was really bad but I almost joined just because of ABR. I feel like 90% of the game is agreeing with me when it comes to SeraphimScum but I have like ZERO towncred to swing any power that way.

I don't want to just sit here and become the default third or forth day lynch while I'm being linked to anyone's and everyone's scum read. I also don't want to sit here and just complain with every post I make. ABR might be town but he's wrong about Nacho. I have no idea why he moved his vote back there, outside a possible meta read. But Nacho is feeling like squishy town, like nacho of old and I'm willing to go a long for the ride. If there is any chance Seraphim can happen I will go back in a heart beat, but I like this for right now.

unvote, Vote: Eddie

[Sotty7]

EddieFenix (3) - Nachomamma8, Albert B. Rampage, GreyICE

If this isn't a beautiful sight in this game I don't know what is.

[Sotty7]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=60046

Here it is! I understand glancing through another game is -work- and not necessarily something you have a whole lot of time for, but I think it will help you understand where I'm coming from with my read on him, especially if you don't have experience with him before this game.

This might be a stupid question but is this Metal Sonic a hydra in this meta? I'm a little confused.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Sotty it would be helpful if you posted every day.