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Post #8025 ISO ) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:00 pm
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by BBmolla Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:00 pm
Stitches and Bullets
2 Mafia Goons
1 Town Reflexive Vigilante
Paranoid Gun Owners choose one night to activate. Anyone who visits them on that night will be nightkilled. Gunsmith gets guilties on everyone except the Doctors.
I wanted to make a setup that included both variations of a PGO (the passive variation represented by the Reflexive Vigilante).
No idea on balance.
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Post #8026 ISO ) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:07 pm
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by JasonWazza Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:07 pm
Not sure this is something you can balance.
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Post #8027 ISO ) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:30 pm
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by BBmolla Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:30 pm
word.
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Post #8028 ISO ) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:31 pm
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by BBmolla Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:31 pm
Maybe I should remove "Weak," most effective method would be to use all PGOs night 1 I think atm.
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Post #8029 ISO ) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:24 pm
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by DeltaFlame Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:24 pm
↑ DeltaFlame wrote:
This is a concept that is based on using backups as opposed to regular roles. While there are less roles that are active at a time, it is harder for Mafia to get rid of these roles.
Role list:
Godfather
Cop
Mechanics:
Daystart Backups are not informed of their role Backup roles are revealed upon deathAND
its backup are dead. E.g. The Universal Backup will become a cop when both the cop and the backup cop are dead.
I was wondering whether or not we were allowed to make our own page on the wiki...
Anyway, would you be able to add my game to the wiki?
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Post #8030 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:08 am
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by BBmolla Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:08 am
Hard Boiled Havoc
2 Mafia Goons
1 Town Detective
Detective gets either a "Has Killed" or "Has Not Killed" result. If a player kills in the night the Detective targets them, it counts as "Has Killed." Tracker/Vigilante choose which they want to be night 1. Mafia Traitor works as per Normal guidelines. If at any time the amount of mafia = the amount of town, the game ends.
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Post #8031 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:14 am
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by BBmolla Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:14 am
I've lost my mind btw
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Post #8032 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:52 am
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by BBmolla Sat Apr 11, 2015 10:52 am
Ignore this post, setup already made.
Kids With Guns - Design Challenge Winner, by
1 Mafia Goon
1 Mafia Suicide Bomber
1 Innocent Child
1 One-shot Vig
4 Vanilla Town
^This setup is really good. Tested it face to face a bunch this week.
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Post #8033 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:06 am
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by West9 Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:06 am
↑ BBmolla wrote: 5 Town Tracker/Vigilante
Is this right?
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Post #8034 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:07 am
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by BBmolla Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:07 am
yes
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Post #8035 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:10 am
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by West9 Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:10 am
Oh, hence the "havoc." Got it.
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Post #8036 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:19 am
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by BBmolla Sat Apr 11, 2015 11:19 am
Still debating balance. The more roles you add the more impossible it becomes to balance.
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Post #8037 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:22 pm
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by BBmolla Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:22 pm
Unrequited 5p
2 Mafia Unrequited Lovers
3 Vanilla Townies
Nightless Pregame, the Unrequited Lovers each select someone to love. They may not select the same target. Unrequited Lover dies if their Lover dies, but if the Unrequited Lover dies the other lover does not.
If Vengeful gets boring. Fun face to face.
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Post #8038 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:55 pm
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by West9 Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:55 pm
scum can't target each other, I'm assuming.
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Post #8039 ISO ) » Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:25 pm
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by BBmolla Sat Apr 11, 2015 5:25 pm
Correct.
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Post #8040 ISO ) » Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:53 pm
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by ArcAngel9 Sun Apr 12, 2015 7:53 pm
this is perfect!!! Thank you for doing this
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Post #8041 ISO ) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:46 pm
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by BBmolla Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:46 pm
Hot Fuzz
1 Mafia Godfather
2 Buddy Cops
Buddy cops may talk together at night. They share a cop investigation. If one dies, the other may still investigate. If the Miller dies, the cops may no longer investigate. This takes effect in the night phase after the Miller's death.
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Post #8042 ISO ) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:58 pm
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by Belisarius Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:58 pm
/pre-in as scum for that
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Post #8043 ISO ) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:00 pm
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by Belisarius Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:00 pm
I'd prefer syphilis to being town in that setup tho
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Post #8044 ISO ) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:05 pm
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by BBmolla Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:05 pm
↑ Belisarius wrote: I'd prefer syphilis to being town in that setup tho
Why?
It's honestly a bit more townsided than Friends and Enemies as far as I can tell
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Post #8045 ISO ) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:40 pm
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by BBmolla Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:40 pm
Too Much Nomination
1 Mafia Vengebomber
1 Serial Killer
1 2-shot Bulletproof Townie
Mafia have no night kill. On odd nights, Mafia select three players. Only these three players may be lynched the following day. On even nights, Mafia may attempt to recruit the Traitor. If they successfully target him, they are informed during the following day. Vengebomb goes through the bulletproof vest. Traitor knows identity of the Mafia, Mafia do not know the identity of the Traitor. If only one townie is left alive going into the day phase, they commit suicide. Must lynch every day. If Serial Killer is lynched, the Mafia Traitor gains his nightkill.
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Post #8046 ISO ) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:20 pm
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by TierShift Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:20 pm
Why did you include a mafia doctor?
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Post #8047 ISO ) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:02 am
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by ArcAngel9 Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:02 am
Is that obvious... Protect themselves from being killed by SK?
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Post #8048 ISO ) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:18 am
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by TierShift Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:18 am
↑ ArcAngel9 wrote: Is that obvious... Protect themselves from being killed by SK?
I'm not stupid. I'm asking why he thinks it's necessary for scum to be able to protect themselves.
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Post #8049 ISO ) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:34 am
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by ArcAngel9 Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:34 am
↑ TierShift wrote: ↑ ArcAngel9 wrote: Is that obvious... Protect themselves from being killed by SK?
I'm not stupid. I'm asking why he thinks it's necessary for scum to be able to protect themselves.
Sorry I didn't meant to insult you. They need to live through to recruit Mafia traitor before Serial killer or town nails them down. It makes sense to have mafia doctor in that setup. At least.. I agree with it.
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