We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[BBmolla]

What was Vyse's role?

[Narninian]

I am also worried about the block of people voting for BB falling apart, since we didn't do it today, do we want to make sure we trigger him tomorrow now?

Yes, we have one less scum we have to rally at least. House was against people voting BBMolla IIRC as well.

[vonflare]

What was Vyse's role?

He was a Mafia Evangelist. He recruited people to a mafia-aligned cult that didnt know who recruited them. He used it on BBmolla N1. It gives the recruits a 3-shot scuicide-bomb, so get ready for that.

[vonflare]

In addition, I was informed that Narninian is the Mafia Traitor.

[Plotinus]

lol

[Narninian]

3 shot suicide bomb.

So they need protection to live past the first shot :p

[vonflare]

3 shot suicide bomb.

So they need protection to live past the first shot :p

:p

[vonflare]

Im sorry i had to leave, I was in too many games with too many players and it was starting to conflict with my schoolwork. No hard feelings, okay?

[vonflare]

I'll be watching this game though...

Also, I signed up pretty much just becuase of the poem in the signup thread.

There once were two young moderators
Who grew bored of the same old debaters
They sought satisfaction
In games with night actions
But found those to not be placaters

They pondered their plight for an hour
Until they began to turn dour
"I'll just make a mini,"
One said like a ninny,
"Without true regard for role power."

There then was a moment of quiet
As he dreaded his old modding diet
But the other one said,
"Fuse two minis instead!
What's the worst that could happen, let's try it."

So the two of them worked for a fortnight
'Til each of their setups were just right
They forced them together
With hope for the better
And prayers that the swing would be slight.

lol

[BRantz]

Agreed, the poem was a big reason to sign up for this!

[Toon Fighter]

hmm... anybody know what a renovator does?

Interior decorator is the usual name. They usually reform and redesign houses. --Oh, you meant in the game. No idea. He claimed nothing, right?

So, good play getting vonflare lynched. Though he was a replacing out player, and the wagon should be teeming with opposite mafia players. Probably not bussing scum though.

About House, was quite expected. Strong role and decent day play. If he survived the day he'd very likely be killed during the night, but oh well.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

vonflare

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Tropical Volcano Lair Mafia Renovator

- Lynched day three.

House

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Town Private Investigator

- Nuked from orbit day three.

I'm definitely claiming credit for being correct on that read.

And I suspect that this kill was based off of Ozgin's result yesterday.

hmm... anybody know what a renovator does?

Sounds like a weak janitor role, possibly.

Vonflares ISO needs to be added to the wiki as an example of wishy-washy voting and opportunism. I don't even.

Geurts. Post in your goddamn hydra.

How about a defensive janitor kind of role? 1-shot make your target do a concealed flip when they die, used it on Vyse? Since the flips don't tell you how many shots, might as well be 1 shot for a power like this.
I actually don't know why I'm in on this power speccing besides getting entertainment out of it =P

It's still kinda weaker because IIRC Janitor completely obscures the flip (including alignment), while this just covered up the role.

I remember someone asking me why I targetted vonflare N2, so I went back and dug.
When I answered it, I read it as a neutral toned question, but post-vonflare flip, I can see myself reading this in different tones.
Can you explain the motive behind this?

I...wanted to know why you picked Vonflare?

Okay so now both mafia factions have no indication that they contain werewolves, I'm strongly sticking to my setup spec, not that it would matter much when I'm dead tomorrow morning.
Berlin Mafia: Nuke from orbit - delayed NK (NK on N# happens at the end of D#+1)
Tropical Volcano Lair Mafia: incinerate
Werewolf SK: eviscerate

Also what's a Renovator? Wiki search turns up nothing.

The only issue with this is that Vyse (who is also Volcano) ended up incinerated, and we have no claimed role that can redirect a kill from a faction back to that faction (If I remember correctly Narn specifically said that he couldn't do this?) So the kill flavors are probably wrong?

Right. Actually, swithing Berlin and TVL may make more sense, honestly.

I'm pretty much ignoring everything Vonflare says if he's going to troll like that (not that he shouldn't, but).

Yes, we have one less scum we have to rally at least. House was against people voting BBMolla IIRC as well.

House seemed to be of the mind that he wanted to investigate again, I think?

Btw, house, you can still post, yknow.

-Ivy

[Narninian]

so Oranje probably isn't Volcano.
Not that that is extremely helpful information.

[Toon Fighter]

What was Vyse's role?

He was a Mafia Evangelist. He recruited people to a mafia-aligned cult that didnt know who recruited them. He used it on BBmolla N1. It gives the recruits a 3-shot scuicide-bomb, so get ready for that.

In addition, I was informed that Narninian is the Mafia Traitor.

Suuuuure, very believable

[House]

ChriVi, don't worry I wouldn't replace out because of the chipmunk noises made by some random and I'm trying hard to refrain from doing anything modkill worthy which is lucky for you. I'll ISO you tomorrow instead and discuss the merits or lack of capability evidenced by what I find there. Considering the brief interaction here, my expectations should be set low shouldn't they?

For the record, ChriVi is mod confirmed as town to me. There are much better uses for your time then determining how scum they are.

You sure like throwing the phrase "mod confirmed town" a lot, when YOU aren't even "mod confirmed town".

Town cred shopping much?

No. I just don't want to see people wasting their time speculating about ChriVi's alignment when I already know it. What other phrase should I use though, to describe the situation? I think it's the only accurate one. Would you prefer I said " My role PM tells me that ChriVi is town" every time?

death: That's because I just posted a lot yesterday. Got really far ahead of work at the office and they didn't have much to give me, so I just followed the game and chimed in when I felt like it. Usually I read a bunch and say whatever's relevant to the direction the conversation has gone since the last time I posted, or I just don't post because nothing that's been said actually changes any of my reads of where I want to vote or push.

You're full of shit, scum. You're just in the best position to lie because you know damned well you're not going to be called out on it by the person you're supposedly "vouching" for.

I'm not buying the bullshit. The only way ChriVi is mod confirmed town is if you are,

FULL STOP

.

[House]

I know I do that pretty much every game I draw scum, because it's fucking hilarious to watch town waste time trying to figure out why Player X was killed over Player Y.

And you've probably lost a couple of those games because you decided to fuck with the town and shoot player X when Player Y was getting a bead on you and your team and then proceeds to either wreck your shit or help the rest of the town figure out the scumteam. And/or is an investigative role and successfully outs you or one of your teammates and thus spurs the town to victory.

I challenge you to link a single scum game I've lost because I WiFoM'ed the town with NK's.

That should keep you busy, searching for the Holy Grail.

[House]

The only way to consider ChriVi as town is to kill Cerb.

Or...investigate him?

Novel concept, I know.

Nope. II is a thing.

[vonflare]

What was Vyse's role?

He was a Mafia Evangelist. He recruited people to a mafia-aligned cult that didnt know who recruited them. He used it on BBmolla N1. It gives the recruits a 3-shot scuicide-bomb, so get ready for that.

In addition, I was informed that Narninian is the Mafia Traitor.

Suuuuure, very believable

What if that's what I want you to think

[vonflare]

Alright I'll say my role. It's basically a 1-shot tailor. I'm not telling you who I framed/lawyered.

[House]

Dear town:

Lynch the shit out of Cerb, BC, and if scum is still alive at that point, Drixx.

Sincerely,

Mod confirmed town

(See Cerb?

*I*

am mod confirmed town, you scum fuck)

[House]

Also, don't be a dork and lynch BBMolla.

Just... no.

[vonflare]

Alright I'll say my role. It's basically a 1-shot tailor. I'm not telling you who I framed/lawyered.

To clarify, renovator. I meant PERMENENT tailor.

[House]

Have you folks stopped to think that BBM's role places him in the highly vulnerable position of allowing scum to derphammer him in the case both wagons reach anything close to L-1?

Be fucking smart about how you run that wagon up.

[vonflare]

Have you folks stopped to think that BBM's role places him in the highly vulnerable position of allowing scum to derphammer him in the case both wagons reach anything close to L-1?

Be fucking smart about how you run that wagon up.

Please continue to whiteknight the suicide bomber.

[House]

Alright I'll say my role. It's basically a 1-shot tailor. I'm not telling you who I framed/lawyered.

To clarify, renovator. I meant PERMENENT tailor.

And if Vonflare is actually telling the truth here, I'd bet the farm it was used on Cerb.