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Post Post #5450 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:22 pm

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deathfisaro wrote:BC
Yes it is for you.
I was browsing through some open game wiki pages and noticed SKs are commonly given BP and/or investigation proof.

Well, for one thing, that entire prompt is completely wrong.

vonflare wrote:I have a strong reason to believe that bulb is not a reflexive roleblocker.

And your partner, whoever he is, DID target me N1?
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Post Post #5451 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:23 pm

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Reflexive Jailkeeper*
I've called BC ref. RB before lol.

@BC
Can't correctly make up a role PM when I have never seen a non-town one in this game to know how the NK is worded, etc.
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Post Post #5452 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:33 pm

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I'm no even talking about the phrasing (although I question why the mods would make it diferent from anyon else, even though you can't actually copy the way they put it). Those aren't even my abilities (and how the fuck do I get a mirror kill, anyways?)
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Post Post #5453 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:34 pm

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It's a metaphorical sister

elusive wrote:uncouth.


I see what you did there :giggle:
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Post Post #5454 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:36 pm

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Given the likelihood of me getting NK'd by werewolf tonight, what do you think of the idea that I target you again tonight and see if I stay alive through tomorrow morning?
Because you're supposed to be reflexive JK, not reflexive RB.

You get a mirror kill by getting shot by scum. That's what a mirror kill is, it's like a night version of supersaint + BP.
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Post Post #5455 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:40 pm

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deathfisaro wrote:Reflexive Jailkeeper*
I've called BC ref. RB before lol.

@BC
Can't correctly make up a role PM when I have never seen a non-town one in this game to know how the NK is worded, etc.



He's a reflexive jail keeper? That's impossible, vyse targeted him the night he died.

He's lying.
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Post Post #5456 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:45 pm

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Yes or no: do you know for a fact vyse action was successful


You said vyse targeted him n1
Vyse died n2

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Post Post #5457 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:47 pm

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Oranje Crush wrote:Hue hue hue.

I'm going to be so insufferable for the rest of the game with this flip.


I'm just glad other people started to take notice of how scummy von had been. I was starting to think no one would ever help me lynch there.
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Post Post #5458 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:47 pm

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House wrote:
(See Cerb?
*I*
am mod confirmed town, you scum fuck)


This is over the line and uncalled for. You know better and you lost your mind when someone went after a friend of yours ... but you think it's okay to do it to someone as long as they aren't your friend? That's kind of hypocritical don't you think?

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House wrote:Cerb had ZERO. TOWN. MOTIVATION. for outing a mod confirmed townie when they had no wagon. He simply could have said he was an informed townie that was given an innocent at the start of the game, because that's all his FAKE AS SHIT "1-way Mason" bullshit is, if he were actually town.


^ Seriously, ChriVi didn't have one single vote, nor were they so much as being grilled.

If you let Cerb skate, WE DESERVE TO LOSE.


This is a dead horse you are beating. There was a reason for Cerberus to claim. You seem to have trouble with context and ordering of events, so I'll make you a list:

1.) Marquis claimed to be a neighborhood investigator and asked neighbors to claim.
2.) Chiv claimed neighbor
3.) Lots of time passed and nobody else claimed neighbor
4.) Cerb claimed that he was Chiv's neighbor and had mod confirmation one-way that Chiv was town, and suggested Marquis investigate him instead of Chiv, as that would clear him and basically give the game a 2nd mason pair
5.) Marquis was targeted by at least one, and possibly two scum factions, which kind of strongly indicates a desire that he NOT investigate Cerb and share the results.
6.) So your entire "he had no town motivation to claim" is just wrong on its face.

elusive wrote:House, are there any night results or anything at all that you want to share or reiterate?

vonflare, scumboi...why are you always so scummy? How many other people from your team are inactive brats who couldn't take the heat? :P

Also, did you team get any of the mafia at all?

Nuking from orbit is some sort of scum or sk day vig role? It can't be night activated or why would they choose House and why would it happen right as mafia is killed? Its happened more then once which is why Lucian needs to explain why his is one-shot. Lucian, I'm on to you.

More thoughts later tonight, but yeah re checking my ISOs of Vyse and Vonflare because those two co-defended and there might be more where that came from. If some other town could ISO the people I haven't done that would be awesome so we can narrow it down.


Lucian's kill flavor is known to be shot through the heart.
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Post Post #5459 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 2:59 pm

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Drixx wrote:1.) Marquis claimed to be a neighborhood investigator and asked neighbors to claim.
2.) Chiv claimed neighbor
3.) Lots of time passed and nobody else claimed neighbor
4.) Cerb claimed that he was Chiv's neighbor and had mod confirmation one-way that Chiv was town, and suggested Marquis investigate him instead of Chiv, as that would clear him and basically give the game a 2nd mason pair
5.) Marquis was targeted by at least one, and possibly two scum factions, which kind of strongly indicates a desire that he NOT investigate Cerb and share the results.
6.) So your entire "he had no town motivation to claim" is just wrong on its face.

Unfortunately Narninian intervention weakens 5). Cerb's faction could have WIFOM killed Marquis and the other faction could have got redirected by Narninian. Straight up bus driver doesn't work here so I didn't consider that.
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Post Post #5460 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:16 pm

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Vonflare


Was it n1 or n2?

The town needs to know and you need to be absolutely sure

Again unless you were the last scum on your team, you need the town right now to help your wincon
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Post Post #5461 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:34 pm

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So, claims breakdown based on setup.

Nikanor Game
ChriVi (Chrimi & Viomi)-Neighbor with Cerberus, who claims ChriVi is confirmed town
Town - Cerberus v666-Neighbor with ChriVI
Marquis/NMI= Flipped town new kid on the block, incinerated and eviscerated N1
Seems likely there's +2 neighbors here who haven't claimed.

Daemonic Game
Town - Three Pronged Trouser God (Untrod Tripod & kuribo & T-Bone) - Mason with Toon Fighter
Town - Toon Fighter-mason with TPTG

Werewolf Game
deathfisaro - Claimed "Town Skeptical Paranormal Investigator" D1 target Bulbasaur, received "Investigation immune", D2 target vonflare, received "not a werewolf"
Drixx-Faction Specific BP. Silver Lining. Werewolves.

Volcano Game
vonflare - flipped volcano renovator lynched D3
vyse president - flipped volcano, partially concealed flip, incinerated N2
Neutral -BBmolla - Second Most Votes Miller Night Skipper, returns volcano

Berlin Game
Pika - flipped berlin modified roleblocker, shot through the heart D2

Nuked from orbit
BRantz - 3 shot removal from town, has used twice.
Oranje Crush (BROseidon & wgeurts) - Amnesiac commuter, Pushed scumflare.

Unsure
Narninian - Kill redirector, claims to have targeted BBMolla>Marquis N1.
PeregrineV-lurking, not claiming.
LucianRoy -Vig/Venge
Om of the Nom-replaced with elusive. vengeful crumb/claim.
Reubus Swagrid/Titus - bureaucrat, odd/even day no/double vote
ActionDan-Replaced with Plotinus. Claimed kevlar, bulletproof to mafia.
Bulbasaur Commonwealth (Bulbazak & mastin2 & Voidedmafia) - Claimed "Reflexive Jailkeeper" Jailkeeps anyone who targets them.
Boonskiies-claimed town skeptical cop.

Dead people:
copper223 - flipped town facebooker, eviscerated N2
Dani/Lihin- flipped town double day foreman, lynched D2
Soren Magua- flipped town forgetful watcher, nuked D2
Jackel98- flipped town public tracker, lynched D1
Ozgin - flipped town private investigator. Suspects BC, Drixx, myself, nuked D3

I think that's everything we know about how everyone's claimed roles relate to the factions/kill flavors/game designers. I put OC and Brantz under the nuked from orbit heading because Brantz power seems like a potential direct counter to a delayed nk that happens during the day, and OC's free nightly commute leaves him invulnerable to standard nk's. It makes sense for them to be in the same game, but there's no proof of it.
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Post Post #5462 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:41 pm

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Hmm. meant to scrub my alignment tag from everyone before I posed that. Ah well. And I didn't change Ogzin to House. meh. poorly formatted.
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Post Post #5463 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:05 pm

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Why are we even listening to the flipped scum vonflare?
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Post Post #5464 (ISO) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:19 pm

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Okay just read the last couple pages and a vonflare helping town makes sense here, if he is not the last scum. Everything he says must be taken with a huge grain of salt though.

@deathfisaro: That is commonly known as a Paranoid Gun Owner. But if you are still alive, why do you think BC has a 'mirror kill'?
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Post Post #5465 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:38 am

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God of Power Outlets wrote:Vonflare


Was it n1 or n2?

The town needs to know and you need to be absolutely sure

Again unless you were the last scum on your team, you need the town right now to help your wincon


I am 100% certain that vyse targeted bulb the night he died, night 2.
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Post Post #5466 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:49 am

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1) Is it your guys experience that PGO uses the flavor of the shot used on them?
2) PGO kills anyone targeting them, so death should have died N1, so thats not an explanation unless this is soke variant.
3) Could be some kind of reflective power BC has, rather than jailkeeping. Explains both the vyse kill flavor and the result death got. On the night I was investigating to see which game the neighbors came from, my pm to the mod asked for me to target myself, or if that wasn't possible, to targer ChriVi, and the mod had me target myself...so it seems self investigation isn't possible.

So, BC maybe lied. But BCs lie, if its what I think it was, seems like a pretty townie play.
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Post Post #5467 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:24 am

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Ok.

basically the moderator made an error, vyse shouldn't have died. We were compensated with a 1-shot rolecop. :/

Our faction was screwed.

Kthxbai
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Post Post #5468 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:39 am

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That sucks. So, nevermind my last post.
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Post Post #5469 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:52 am

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Cerb ... vonflare is WiFoM trolling the shit out of the thread.
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Post Post #5470 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:53 am

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vonflare wrote:Ok.

basically the moderator made an error, vyse shouldn't have died. We were compensated with a 1-shot rolecop. :/

Our faction was screwed.

Kthxbai

Drixx wrote:Cerb ... vonflare is WiFoM trolling the shit out of the thread.


My above post is true.
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Post Post #5471 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:55 am

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vonflare wrote:Ok.

basically the moderator made an error, vyse shouldn't have died. We were compensated with a 1-shot rolecop. :/

Our faction was screwed.

Kthxbai



This post is true the rest it trolling.

:cry:
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Post Post #5472 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:55 am

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Ebwop: the rest *is* trolling
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Post Post #5473 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:58 am

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Also our kill flavour is not incinerated. But I might be lying about that.
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Post Post #5474 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:01 am

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vonflare wrote:
vonflare wrote:Ok.

basically the moderator made an error, vyse shouldn't have died. We were compensated with a 1-shot rolecop. :/

Our faction was screwed.

Kthxbai



This post is true the rest it trolling.

:cry:


ok obviously good cop doesn't work

lemme try bad cop


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