8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Nachomamma8]

it's you/Mollie/wguerts/Zar.

what exactly is your reasoning for this team?

[Nachomamma8]

If Zar was scum with Kagami/ooba/Sotty, then I don't understand why he decides to vote the one viable scum wagon instead of two viable town ones.
Kagami-scum not voting me still doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless I bring complicated theories into it, and scum probably don't play that way despite how much I'd love if they did.

[GreyICE]

Could there be a magical fucking Sotty wagon.

Angels and hymns

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Sotty

Sure.

[GreyICE]

Vote: Sotty

[Nachomamma8]

Grey, who are your four names?

[GreyICE]

Mmmmmm, not sold on the entire 4 name thing, because I feel like that's a buffet for people, but:

Sotty, Kagami, and 2 of:

ZZZX
Ooba/Seraphim/The Slot that does not post
Mollie

1687 is predicated on you flipping scum, but to wit:
- You wouldn't push your scumbuddy as scum when there's so many other people around here you could set on fire
- The you/Mollie drama would be very cute for the two of you to plan out. Eddie's lightning replacement was weird as fuck, especially for someone who sounded confident as hell day 1. It went confident>"Lynch me to show you how shit that was">Mollie. You being scum would be the last nail in that coffin
- Everyone sounds better with a good coach. The scum have daytalk. Wguerts makes a good partner for you and you alone.
- Zar's reads fit this to a T


Miiiight sub in ZZZX, but yeah. Don't think you're scum so w/e

[Albert B. Rampage]

Scum are : Nacho and pirate

I'm willing to vote GreyIce because he keeps sheeping Nacho.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This entire situation happening is mostly my fault, yeah.
And it's great! Because now the game is oh so fun!

No, it's not.

[Metal Sonic]

Fun cause scum can enjoy the chaos, he means

[pirate mollie]

Zar is pretty low-content overall, but I find the pushes he's made make a lot of sense, and I feel his reads and votes in general mean that he doesn't make sense as scum unless he's scum with GreyICE. Grey makes sense as town because he's been pursuing a lot of different angles, his play makes sense overall, reasoning has been consistently fairly solid. I didn't like Grey playing the terrorist game with me recently, although I'm not sure that's particularly alignment indicative.

I don't really understand your scumread on metal, even a little bit. The best people have been able to come up with against him is "inconsistent", which is pretty crap. I feel Metal's pushes and posts this game have consistently been very genuine: I don't think he says shit like "I'm the most influential player in the game" if scum, I don't think is as patient in selling the paranoia of me as scum, his push on GreyICE even follows his tendency to irrationally scumread aggressive players when town, which is something I don't think he's aware of. His trust and relationship with ABR also makes him look pretty town, as does him being uncomfortable with ZZZX and wgeurts.

sotty yeah, ooba mebbe, it is taking him forever to post but cld you plz in a tl;dr fashion explain the kagami case? I never understood it when I was trying to keep up with the game. I feel like grey in this particular instance wld be a bigger point for you to draw from but somehow you are missing it.

I am missing the point of how Grey is so scummy in particular. I don't like that Kagami's hinged her entire game on Grey being scum because it seems like a dumb risk to make if Kagami is town. I don't think her case on Grey is very strong or convincing at the end of the day.

so grey is confscum if you flip scum?

thanks!

and metal too? bonus!

bulba and eddie were both willing to hinge our entire team on grey being scum. and you are not even giving a second thought about it.

I had my moment of doubt cos no way wld scum be that nasty but nope he can be. I wldn't be surprised if he escalated in this game. and I think he is cosying up to abr who will eat it like candy.

I think metal is scum here and it has nothing to do with inconsistency!

[Albert B. Rampage]

Town should just sheep me and Sonic.

[pirate mollie]

Mmmmmm, not sold on the entire 4 name thing, because I feel like that's a buffet for people, but:

Sotty, Kagami, and 2 of:

ZZZX
Ooba/Seraphim/The Slot that does not post
Mollie

1687 is predicated on you flipping scum, but to wit:
- You wouldn't push your scumbuddy as scum when there's so many other people around here you could set on fire
- The you/Mollie drama would be very cute for the two of you to plan out. Eddie's lightning replacement was weird as fuck, especially for someone who sounded confident as hell day 1. It went confident>"Lynch me to show you how shit that was">Mollie. You being scum would be the last nail in that coffin
- Everyone sounds better with a good coach. The scum have daytalk. Wguerts makes a good partner for you and you alone.
- Zar's reads fit this to a T


Miiiight sub in ZZZX, but yeah. Don't think you're scum so w/e

yeah, no

[Metal Sonic]

I have no idea why she would want to jump in this game if not to make ABR look bad.

you don't think me reading eddie as scum because of her interactions with me through him and me getting him lynched had to do with anything?
blaming the current shitshow on mollie seems absolutely ridiculous

Answer my list question

nacho if your next post doesnt do this im voting you and not doing anything but hard lynching you

cld plz back off back off a bit.

I came into this game thinking he was scum and I am still kinda leaning that way but you know what never happened was me getting the chance to sort him. <---- don't you find that interesting? look at who kept that from happening.

my team thinks grey is scum period, end of story. my argument for town!him fell flat when I read some of the josh whedon game and realized his personal attacks can come from either alignment. I am still trying to work that out.

what do you think of metal? cos he is not conf!town like grey is trying to purport he actually looks a lot like he did in organic chemistry on a scumteam we both were on! do YOU see the similarities?

I don't think abr is scum I think he is town. <----- you 2 are my strongest scumreads.

sotty's vote is opportunistic as hell can we all just agree on that.

itt Mollie does not read the game!






I am trying to reach out to u with mollie speak but if you keeping going on like this mebbe I will give up!

[Metal Sonic]

Town should just sheep me and Sonic.

They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.

[pirate mollie]

Town should just sheep me and Sonic.

They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.

why wld any1 follow you when you lynched town hoopla?

[Nachomamma8]

Town should just sheep me and Sonic.

They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.

why wld any1 follow you when you lynched town hoopla?

they didn't

[pirate mollie]

tell me you are town

[Albert B. Rampage]

Town should just sheep me and Sonic.

They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.

Yeah. Well I guarantee you another mislynch today. Just let them make mistakes and we'll be here to guide them when they stop voting with scum.

[Nachomamma8]

bulba and eddie were both willing to hinge our entire team on grey being scum. and you are not even giving a second thought about it.

#1798 is me considering Grey as scum: I don't think Kagami/Sotty/Zar/ooba works as a team together even though I would find them the scummiest individually at this point. Me asking Grey to give me four names is asking him to give me a viable alternative to Grey/Zar/Sotty/ooba, which is the only team that makes sense without any of my 5 person block being scum.

[Nachomamma8]

tell me you are town

I'm town.

[pirate mollie]

bulba and eddie were both willing to hinge our entire team on grey being scum. and you are not even giving a second thought about it.

#1798 is me considering Grey as scum: I don't think Kagami/Sotty/Zar/ooba works as a team together even though I would find them the scummiest individually at this point. Me asking Grey to give me four names is asking him to give me a viable alternative to Grey/Zar/Sotty/ooba, which is the only team that makes sense without any of my 5 person block being scum.

can we break this down plz?

kagami, for not posting enough, ooba not posting at all in a game he signed up for, sotty is opportunistic, zar is is somehow cleared by my team and grey is still scum?

do I have it right?

[GreyICE]

Scum are : Nacho and pirate

I'm willing to vote GreyIce because he keeps sheeping Nacho.

Yeah you're not even pretending I'm scum.

I ask you for reads you give me dog dirt and threaten me. So yep, not working with you. Do better if you want my help. You know I'm immune to your lame threats.

[Nachomamma8]

kagami, for not posting enough, ooba not posting at all in a game he signed up for, sotty is opportunistic, zar is is somehow cleared by my team and grey is still scum?

kagami for the unnatural position on greyice and nonproductive tunnelvision in general. kagami believes greyice is scum. kagami believes that everyone is too stupid to see why greyice is scum. kagami has done nothing particularly impressive to get greyice lynched as scum and she hasn't made any effort to root out his partners.

ooba for seraphim still. maybe ooba for ooba will happen soon.

sotty is opportunistic and not herself. she's made absolutely no effort to sort me and i have serious trouble wrapping my head around someone actually believing you'd put yourself in a position like this to "damage ABR's towncred": sonic thought that maybe i would do it to completely fuck town synergy up, but i don't think that's unreasonable, considering how heartless most people believe me to be.

i don't know why zar's cleared by your team.

i don't know why grey's scum.

[Nachomamma8]

your team keeps calling grey scum for reasons that aren't particularly compelling. i'm not inclined to listen to "you don't see why grey's scum? really?" because i don't. i don't understand why grey's scum. i now see a very real chance that he might be scum, but no one's been willing to work with me on the reasoning why.