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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:32 pm

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i'm not obvtowning him because i'm 90% aware of my inability in reading him. i can't fault him as hard for some players for making shitty pushes because he does, as town, get distracted easily. he does, as town, push shit to see what sticks. he does, as town, make emotional pushes. i can't fault him for bad reasoning because his reasoning usually isn't weak regardless of his alignment. it's going to take a lot of convincing for me to lynch him at this stage because i see absolutely no reason why i would lynch the scum who is grossly outperforming his other partners when i could just lynch underperforming partners first, get some mislynches to work with.
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:35 pm

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EddieFenix wrote:He dodged on slamming ZZZX's PbPA when it would have helped his case against Sotty, he sits here and goes about gallivanting on about how my accusations against him are stupid, when anyone who has accusations thrown at them in this manor would slam them to hell and back, not just sit in the corner goin "they're stupid, this player is stupid"

like this reasoning? isn't good.
it isn't. grey isn't scum because he didn't slam zzzx's pbpa. grey can, as town or scum, slam a pbpa that has factual errors. grey has less motive to slam that pbpa as town than he does as scum.
dismissing a weak case and calling the player stupid is an annoying approach, but it's a fairly easy one to understand and is 99% of the time a response that is player and alignment based.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:38 pm

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kagami is the closest person who is actually willing to work with me on a greyice scumread and her reasons are hands-down the best of the group, but she's taking what's the strangest approach to the game that she could possibly manage if town and it doesn't personally help me see him as scum in any way because again, we approach the game in completely different ways
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:43 pm

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GreyICE wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Scum are : Nacho and pirate

I'm willing to vote GreyIce because he keeps sheeping Nacho.

Yeah you're not even pretending I'm scum.

I ask you for reads you give me dog dirt and threaten me. So yep, not working with you. Do better if you want my help. You know I'm immune to your lame threats.


I'm not threatening you, I think there's a good chance you're scum with Nacho given how much you've worked with him.
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:43 pm

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metal sonic tries to explain greyice scumread, yes, and puts an effort into, yes, but is so disinterested in reading and processing what other people are producing and instead is just focusing on "slamming" and "countering" that i don't really find it fruitful with him working over a greyice scumread.
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:47 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Scum are : Nacho and pirate

I'm willing to vote GreyIce because he keeps sheeping Nacho.

Yeah you're not even pretending I'm scum.

I ask you for reads you give me dog dirt and threaten me. So yep, not working with you. Do better if you want my help. You know I'm immune to your lame threats.


I'm not threatening you, I think there's a good chance you're scum with Nacho given how much you've worked with him.

Cool. Swear to my list of four if I'm town then vote away.
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:49 pm

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If Nacho flips town, I think you're likely town though. He needs to flip first.
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:58 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:metal sonic tries to explain greyice scumread, yes, and puts an effort into, yes, but is so disinterested in reading and processing what other people are producing and instead is just focusing on "slamming" and "countering" that i don't really find it fruitful with him working over a greyice scumread.


what exactly are "other people are producing"?

I think that my case is extra solid!!!
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:32 pm

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pirate mollie wrote:
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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Town should just sheep me and Sonic.


They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.


why wld any1 follow you when you lynched town hoopla?



Mollie!

Do you know why we stopped playing with each other?

It's cause I would always mis scumread you!

Why do I mis scumread you all the time?

Cause I had this idea that Mollie = nice

If Mollie = mean then mollie is scum!

That was a wrong read to have! So you can count how many times I mislynched you!

Our hydras failing to synch was another matter. Timezones are issues!

So we both soft blacklisted each other cause my play towards you became a mess! And we couldn't have a fun and happy game.


This is the meanest Mollie that I have ever seen in play! I think that this game shows me the ugliest side of the Mollie and it is a good thing for you to replace into one of my townread slots!

I am not joining the Abr and grey gangbang cause I am nice and I don want to add to the attack. But I am not defending you like PRINCE KNIGHT cause I can see where they are coming from! So there.


You may be wondering why I am not interacting with you! It is very simple.

I had Eddie as a good town. So when your slot came in you are also town.

And I expected you to take the town reads on me as gospel and truth. Since we both would have a god understanding that we both are town, there was no need for unnecessary extra discussion!


But I have tried to use molliespeak to get to interact with you and it seems like you are ignoring them! That is very not nice. I am a speaker of molliespeak and I think that you should give more credit for that and not just take big doo doos on the thread!
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:34 pm

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Votecount 2.17Kagami (2) - Zar, ZZZX
Pirate Mollie (2) - Sotty7, wgeurts
Nachomamma8 (2) - Albert B. Rampage, Metal Sonic
Sotty (2) - Nachomamma8, GreyICE
GreyICE (1) - Pirate Mollie


Not Voting (2) - Kagami, Ooba


With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.


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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:35 pm

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Ooba super lurk active.

I will not lynch: ABR, wgeurts, GreyICE, Kagami
I am willing to lynch: Nacho, ZZZX, Zar
I want to lynch: Metal, Mollie, Ooba

Towniest being ABR, Scummiest being Ooba.

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Sotty7 wrote:I have no idea why she would want to jump in this game if not to make ABR look bad.

you don't think me reading eddie as scum because of her interactions with me through him and me getting him lynched had to do with anything?
blaming the current shitshow on mollie seems absolutely ridiculous

I think she has entered the game with the express intent on "reading you" while actually not providing anything of substance. Fanning the flames.

Nachomamma8 wrote:He won the game as a town mason.
He was a hydra, yes, but distinguishing him from Om shouldn't be too difficult.

You have any other experience with him I could look at? This game really didn't help me much.

Nachomamma8 wrote:sotty is opportunistic and not herself. she's made absolutely no effort to sort me and i have serious trouble wrapping my head around someone actually believing you'd put yourself in a position like this to "damage ABR's towncred": sonic thought that maybe i would do it to completely fuck town synergy up, but i don't think that's unreasonable, considering how heartless most people believe me to be.

I have made multiple attempts to have a conversation with you and for whatever reason it falls though yet you keep using this interacting thing as a point against me. It's one thing if you don't feel like I am "myself" cause I kinda agree, the other point is pretty terrible because I have been trying but I can only talk to a wall for so long.
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:37 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Town should just sheep me and Sonic.


They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.


Yeah. Well I guarantee you another mislynch today. Just let them make mistakes and we'll be here to guide them when they stop voting with scum.



There is a sad irony here that we fail to rally enough votes to overcome a scumblock that is 4 votes!

Our wagons today never went above 4.

Meanwhile troll wagon on kagami hits 4 every since time

A hypothetical scumteam voting as a block would actually beat us!
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:39 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:If Nacho flips town, I think you're likely town though. He needs to flip first.

The problem is that even a blanket promise from the moderator to make me an innocent child would not cause me to lynch a town read today. if nacho is scum I'll take my lumps but I'm not seeing it.
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:40 pm

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Metal, why is the wagon on Kagami a troll wagon?
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:41 pm

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Because me and Abr was, and is not on it.

It's just an ironic mockery of our worthless "conftown" status




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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:33 pm

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Sotty7 wrote:Ooba super lurk active.

I will not lynch: ABR, wgeurts, GreyICE, Kagami
I am willing to lynch: Nacho, ZZZX, Zar
I want to lynch: Metal, Mollie, Ooba

Towniest being ABR, Scummiest being Ooba.


So vote Nacho, because we are 2 days from deadline.
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:33 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:i'm not obvtowning him because i'm 90% aware of my inability in reading him. i can't fault him as hard for some players for making shitty pushes because he does, as town, get distracted easily. he does, as town, push shit to see what sticks. he does, as town, make emotional pushes. i can't fault him for bad reasoning because his reasoning usually isn't weak regardless of his alignment. it's going to take a lot of convincing for me to lynch him at this stage because i see absolutely no reason why i would lynch the scum who is grossly outperforming his other partners when i could just lynch underperforming partners first, get some mislynches to work with.



I always want to lynch the mastermind first of a scumteam cause if he falls the entire scumteam implodes!
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:39 pm

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Yep.
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:29 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
pirate mollie wrote:
Metal Sonic wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Town should just sheep me and Sonic.


They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.


why wld any1 follow you when you lynched town hoopla?

they didn't


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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:42 pm

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Yeah, Eddie was on that lynch too. I wanted to lynch Nacho yesterday but at deadline switched to Hoopla to save on time since she was dying anyway.
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:47 pm

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Metal Sonic wrote:Mollie!

Do you know why we stopped playing with each other?

It's cause I would always mis scumread you!

Why do I mis scumread you all the time?

Cause I had this idea that Mollie = nice

If Mollie = mean then mollie is scum!

That was a wrong read to have! So you can count how many times I mislynched you!

Our hydras failing to synch was another matter. Timezones are issues!

So we both soft blacklisted each other cause my play towards you became a mess! And we couldn't have a fun and happy game.


This is the meanest Mollie that I have ever seen in play! I think that this game shows me the ugliest side of the Mollie and it is a good thing for you to replace into one of my townread slots!

I am not joining the Abr and grey gangbang cause I am nice and I don want to add to the attack. But I am not defending you like PRINCE KNIGHT cause I can see where they are coming from! So there.


You may be wondering why I am not interacting with you! It is very simple.

I had Eddie as a good town. So when your slot came in you are also town.

And I expected you to take the town reads on me as gospel and truth. Since we both would have a god understanding that we both are town, there was no need for unnecessary extra discussion!


But I have tried to use molliespeak to get to interact with you and it seems like you are ignoring them! That is very not nice. I am a speaker of molliespeak and I think that you should give more credit for that and not just take big doo doos on the thread!


1. I never blacklisted you.
2. point to the posts that are mean. other than to wguerts who did not participate in the group-on. it looks like you were cheering from the background.
3. you have earned zero trust from me.
4, yes I am ignoring you and no you do not get molliespeak or particularly believe that you think this slot is town unless it serves a purpose cos of how you cheered the group-on interaction while it happened.

I am using the term "group-on" instead of "gangbang" to make it softer cos as much as I do not like abr and grey right now I don't want them to have that sort of albatross dangling from their necks.

thanks for using a lot words to say I had it coming tho!
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:53 pm

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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:54 pm

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Metal Sonic wrote:Not touching eddie with a 10 ft pole
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:55 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Yeah, Eddie was on that lynch too. I wanted to lynch Nacho yesterday but at deadline switched to Hoopla to save on time since she was dying anyway.


do you think it will be a dl today?

I am willing to be the sacrificial pony cos my way of sorting nacho has been fucked and the whole game has been fucked (for me) cos you are on a vindictive high.

I must be protecting nacho cos he is a scum power role!


I am town and I really think you are and I hope you win it for us. don't blame any1 else if we lose this. if you are scum good job I guess altho I find it shitty.

this is about the best reach out that I can give.
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:58 pm

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I never blacklisted you either!

But it is a soft thing!


But that is not important at all. I don't know how else to show displeasure of your current play in this game except by spamming thorella faces <------ this is as nice as I get
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