8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Metal Sonic]

Ok. Done with Day 1. Here are my thoughts:

- Kagami, Sotty, Eddie, Zar literally just lurked out the end of the day
- Kagami used GreyIce suspicion as a crutch to literally comment on nothing else throughout the entire day.
- This is similar to wgeurt's MS suspicion at the start of the game - but his play improved as the day continued - I liked the Kagami vote when Hoopla's wagon looked like it might die down.

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Nacho and GreyIce are the towniest of town

. I'm no expert scum hunter, but I am good at town hunting. Their conviction is extremely genuine. People hold Nacho to some godlike town standard but there are many nuggets of town here:
a) His reads look spot on
b) The "I don't know how many scum bodies I have to drop"
c) Saying this is good to GreyIce's "Let's lynch Kagami today. If she flips town, I'll help you with Nacho tomorrow" to ABR

I'll drop this now and will update after Day 2.

Vote: Sotty

[Metal Sonic]

Screw phone posting

That's why I write on the com


ANYWAY "kagami, Sotty, zar, Eddie lurked the hell out of day 1"

Magically all of them became your scumreads

[ooba]

Screw phone posting

That's why I write on the com


ANYWAY "kagami, Sotty, zar, Eddie lurked the hell out of day 1"

Magically all of them became your scumreads

Correction: They were scum reads and I pointed out their lurking.

This is sort of where I'm at right now. Let me finish\refine this.

{Sotty, Kagami, ???, ???} - Not Zar, wgeurts
{Sotty, Zar, wgeurts, ???} - ZZZX?

[Metal Sonic]

I am probably in la la land now

[ooba]

I am probably in la la land now

Then you're wrong. A Nacho lynch is not happening. Stop handing the game over to scum.

[Metal Sonic]

I may be wrong about nacho

But the risk of letting him live as scum is too high.



I am most probably not wrong about GreyICE. GreyICE is scum by the way!

[ooba]

I may be wrong about nacho

But the risk of letting him live as scum is too high.



I am most probably not wrong about GreyICE. GreyICE is scum by the way!

This is a nightless game - you're still going to be alive to push against Nacho-scum if needed.

The way I see it - it's so hard to get a lynch on *obvious* scum today - it's only going to get harder as town numbers are whittled down.

Also, you should note the conviction of my reads when I said I'll stop playing if either is scum.

[Metal Sonic]

Lynching nacho town is hard

Lynching nacho scum is harder!!!!

Mollie I would like you to refer to joss whedon mafia. Nacho HYDRA with f16 almost slaughtered the town till Lylo. And it's a hydra with Mara and krew who (may weigh nacho scumgame down). This is the pure nacho goodness. No more extraneous scumslips from Mara's fake replace out which I caught immediately.

There are major benefits regardless of what he flips and I think that resisters are just scum. Because real town would be "ok". Or perhaps believe him and not lynch him.

[wgeurts]

Metal, can we please lynch him?
He full well knows two mislynches will screw town badly.

[ooba]

Lynching nacho town is hard

Lynching nacho scum is harder!!!!

Mollie I would like you to refer to joss whedon mafia. Nacho HYDRA with f16 almost slaughtered the town till Lylo. And it's a hydra with Mara and krew who (may weigh nacho scumgame down). This is the pure nacho goodness. No more extraneous scumslips from Mara's fake replace out which I caught immediately.

There are major benefits regardless of what he flips and I think that resisters are just scum. Because real town would be "ok". Or perhaps believe him and not lynch him.

I'm sorry but I'd like to lynch scum today and blow the game wide open.

Ok - we lynch Nacho today and he flips town. Where are we placed for tomorrow?

[Metal Sonic]

I may be wrong about nacho

But the risk of letting him live as scum is too high.



I am most probably not wrong about GreyICE. GreyICE is scum by the way!

This is a nightless game - you're still going to be alive to push against Nacho-scum if needed.

The way I see it - it's so hard to get a lynch on *obvious* scum today - it's only going to get harder as town numbers are whittled down.

Also, you should note the conviction of my reads when I said I'll stop playing if either is scum.

Not if we get endgamed by nacho scum and his likely partner GreyICE!

What makes the difference between obvious scum and lynchbait. Why would scum be obvious. They are gamethrowing. More often than not they are just lynchbait town who scum are pushing.


Just look at hoopla. Or maybe, from your own perspective you should be well aware of seraphim's play. That should be enough examples.




I think that your conviction is so high that it is almost fake able. You know like when legs are too long they are probably photoshopped. Same for model figures. And silicon. And all that.

[wgeurts]

If he flips scum nacho and greyICE scum because a heck lot more likely.
We could do Ooba > GreyICE or Nacho > Figure out stuff with associatives.

Pr-edit: Then we probably end up voting kagami/sotty/mollie/ICE

[wgeurts]

ABR, care to through in those nacho scum reasons now?
Can you convince me I'm on the right wagon besides how it's built and other wagons look really bad.

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: ooba

Ok nobody was townreading seraphim

[wgeurts]

VOTE: Ooba
Choo choo

[wgeurts]

I'm going to laugh when this wagon hits resistance.

[ooba]

Why would scum be obvious.

Because in my eyes they are obvious once you remove the obv town from the lynch candidates.

I removed:
You
ABR
GreyIce
Nacho

We're left with:
Kagami Silverwolf (The Hitmen)
Pirate Mollie EddieFenix (The Leftovers)
Sotty7 (The Kliq)
wgeurts (Young and Beautiful)
Zar Empire (The Westeros Circlejerk)
ZZZX (TEAM WITH NO NAME)

- I'm at 44. Eddie calling Nacho town is probably town tell.
- ZZZX calling this {sonic/ABR/

wgerts

} the town block
- wgeurts arguing today why I voted Sotty over Kagami
- Zar looking for a {Nacho\Sera} case while voting Kagami which had Nacho on the wagon
- Zar, wgeurt voted Kagami - still haven't got to that point yet - but third point and him voting Kagami at the end of the day is possibly one against Kagami scum

So you have {Sotty, Zar, ZZZX, wgeurts}

It's obvious to me. But feel free to throw the game.

[ooba]

Want to make a deal on it?
I'll vote whoever you wish for two days if greyICE/Nacho both flip town?

There's no way I'm for voting or lynching either of these two players. We need scum flips faster. Want to make a reverse deal?

Lynch Sotty today. Should flip scum. If not, lynch Kagami tomorrow. If both flip town, you have my vote for the rest of the game - including a self vote on me.

Also note the hypocrisy in the following thought.

He's voting me currently because "Metal, can we please lynch him? He full well knows two mislynches will screw town badly.". From my perspective, Nacho\GI lynches are EXACTLY the same thing.

[wgeurts]

You seriously think that's the only reason I'm voting you?
Also, why are you voting sotty and not kagami? You ignored this.
(Nacho also put me in the town bloc as well, I do believe he was "super-town" so how is ZZZX doing it wrong?)

[wgeurts]

As for the hypocrisy, nacho/greyICE flip reveals a lot more info than sotty/kagami flip whatever alignment they flip. You know this so my deal should of been fine.

[ooba]

You seriously think that's the only reason I'm voting you?
Also, why are you voting sotty and not kagami? You ignored this.
(Nacho also put me in the town bloc as well, I do believe he was "super-town" so how is ZZZX doing it wrong?)

The answer is literally there two posts above.

You, Zar voted Kagami. Haven't read it to see if it's a bus yet - but double scum voting other scum seem less likely.

^pedit: You keep saying this. We start D2 with a Nacho town flip - where exactly does this put us?
"sotty/kagami flip whatever alignment they flip" - Really? GreyIce and Nacho have LITERALLY been pushing these two slots the whole game. A scum flip from them should clear GI and Nacho. But you already know this.

[Metal Sonic]

Please read page 55 & 56

[Metal Sonic]

You must be pretty naive to think that Sotty and kagami flipping scum would clear grey and nacho

AND simultaneously believe that there is a lesser chance of it the other way round

[ooba]

You must be pretty naive to think that Sotty and kagami flipping scum would clear grey and nacho

AND simultaneously believe that there is a lesser chance of it the other way round

Sure Nacho and\or Grey Ice flipping scum would clear Sotty\Kagami.

But there's a much lesser chance of Nacho\GreyIce flipping scum than those two slots.

[Metal Sonic]

I don't think its the matter of clearing Sotty or kagami

If nacho and grey are indeed scum they can forfeit already.