8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Metal Sonic]

No, really. There is no scumteam possible in the game that can beat us that does not contain grey or nacho

[Metal Sonic]

Actually just nacho

Grey won't stand a chance even if he is scum LOL

[Metal Sonic]

I just realised.

Ooba read till page 44.


How did he get a townread on nacho even on day 1 which is not legit at all. Only after nacho's burst in day 2 is it possible to townread nachos. Cause his day 1 play is low par.

[ooba]

If nacho flips town we will lynch kagami right?

Jesus.

@MS: Because Nacho's been pushing the scum right from the start. {Sotty\Kagami\Zar. I'm wrong about one in that bunch.} You're just too blind to see it.

[Metal Sonic]

Let me give you a chance.


When you have time, lay out all reasoning, with evidence and all analysis necessary for all pertinent reads that you have.

[Metal Sonic]

Vezok piraka says that lynching ooba is a priority. I am going to ask why

[ooba]

Finished reading the thread.

There was NOTHING - not even a wiggle in D2 that made me shake the Nacho\GreyIce town reads. The discussion of who to lynch after their deaths.

They aren't reverse psychology geniuses. I've played with Nacho scum - I know how he operates. This was genuine town posting.

I've never played with GreyIce before (I think?) - but his posting resonates with me on every level. Again - the "I'll give you four names, you can lynch me"

- I hated that mollie retracted her town read on Nacho after replacing in. But posting's at par with what I've seen of mollie town.
- Kagami feels like mislynch bait
I'll have to ISO stuff again and see if this fits, but this is where I'm standing at right now. Their mutual read lists all fit the profile.

So you have {Sotty, Zar, ZZZX, wgeurts}

[ooba]

@ABR\@MS:

While I respect your wishes to vote Nacho, I also think you're wrong and going to be doing my best to get an actual scum lynch today. I will need one of you to switch at deadline.

@Mollie:

You're (and your team) are wrong about GreyIce - Please vote Shotty.

@Kagami:

I'll need you to vote.

[ooba]

Want to make a deal on it?
I'll vote whoever you wish for two days if greyICE/Nacho both flip town?

You want a real deal?

Vote Sotty today, if he flips town, I'll vote Nacho or whoever the hell you want tomorrow.

[Chances of Wgeurts accepting: 0%]

[ooba]

- I hated that mollie retracted her town read on Nacho after replacing in. But posting's at par with what I've seen of mollie town.

Mala also brings up the point that she can never see mollie replacing into a scum slot.

[wgeurts]

Want to make a deal on it?
I'll vote whoever you wish for two days if greyICE/Nacho both flip town?

You want a real deal?

Vote Sotty today, if he flips town, I'll vote Nacho or whoever the hell you want tomorrow.

[Chances of Wgeurts accepting: 0%]

Deal, as long as Metal Sonic agree's along with the rest of the town bloc.

[wgeurts]

Also metal's voting you not Nacho.

[Metal Sonic]

Want to make a deal on it?
I'll vote whoever you wish for two days if greyICE/Nacho both flip town?

You want a real deal?

Vote Sotty today, if he flips town, I'll vote Nacho or whoever the hell you want tomorrow.

[Chances of Wgeurts accepting: 0%]

Deal, as long as Metal Sonic agree's along with the rest of the town bloc.

what does Abr think. He hasn't seen ooba post yet, he'll give his opinion tomorrow

[Metal Sonic]

Let me give you a chance.


When you have time, lay out all reasoning, with evidence and all analysis necessary for all pertinent reads that you have.

This is important before I take any of your reads into account.

[pirate mollie]

@ABR\@MS:

While I respect your wishes to vote Nacho, I also think you're wrong and going to be doing my best to get an actual scum lynch today. I will need one of you to switch at deadline.

@Mollie:

You're (and your team) are wrong about GreyIce - Please vote Shotty.

@Kagami:

I'll need you to vote.

you have my sword.

VOTE: sotty

[quadz08]

Votecount 2.18

Sotty (4) - Nachomamma8, GreyICE, Ooba, Pirate Mollie
Ooba (2) - Metal Sonic, wgeurts
Kagami (2) - Zar, ZZZX
Pirate Mollie (1) - Sotty7
Nachomamma8 (1) - Albert B. Rampage


Not Voting (1) - Kagami

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Deadline is 4/18 at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2015-04-18 18:00:00).

[Metal Sonic]

vezokpiraka says that the way ooba entered the game is like a desperate scumslot's attempt to save the slot when his scumbuddies thought that he was dead meat.

he want to remind us about the fact that seraphim was extremely scummy, but nobody ever really pushed for it.

he also makes the statement that he thinks that ooba is more guaranteed scum than nacho

thats a little harsh but i am relaying this direct. personally i dont see what vezok is seeing so strongly, but he can be a genius at the game. thats why he's on my team!


finally he would like to remind us of the fact that weaker players tend to be more alignment indicative than 'stronger' ones. basically seraphim's scumminess was obvious but a skilled player the likes of ooba is able to expertly fix it up, especially with coaching and daytalk.

i am afraid of the modkill :[

[Metal Sonic]

Sotty (4) - Nachomamma8,

GreyICE

, Ooba,

Pirate Mollie

see this wagon. there is a greyice and a mollie. supposed mortal enemies. i will not approach this place.



ABR, ZZZX, I am relaying the both of you to vote ooba. wgeurts is here too so it is a more solid wagon than nachos wagon.

[Metal Sonic]

Town should just sheep me and Sonic.

They haven't been doing that since day 2 started LOL.

Yeah. Well I guarantee you another mislynch today. Just let them make mistakes and we'll be here to guide them when they stop voting with scum.

There is a sad irony here that we fail to rally enough votes to overcome a scumblock that is 4 votes!

Our wagons today never went above 4.

Meanwhile troll wagon on kagami hits 4 every since time

A hypothetical scumteam voting as a block would actually beat us!

>>>>>>>>> this applies currently to the sotty wagon now. bye bye kagami wagon!

[Metal Sonic]

Want to make a deal on it?
I'll vote whoever you wish for two days if greyICE/Nacho both flip town?

You want a real deal?

Vote Sotty today, if he flips town, I'll vote Nacho or whoever the hell you want tomorrow.

[Chances of Wgeurts accepting: 0%]

Deal, as long as Metal Sonic agree's along with the rest of the town bloc.

I've thought this through and my answer is in #1942

[Metal Sonic]

They aren't reverse psychology geniuses. I've played with Nacho scum - I know how he operates. This was genuine town posting.

my problem with nacho is that he is possibly a reverse psychology genius! so we are going to have to agree to disagree.


I have the impression that Nacho scum is super lurk. that is a shallow way to scumhunt and so I don't actually have a good nacho sorting. I just know that if Nacho is not obvtown he is definitely scum. Even if he is obvtown he may still be scum.

[Metal Sonic]

shos tells me that my read on nacho is mostly paranoia.

i think he is right.



which is why i switched my vote!! to seraphim!

[ZZZX]

ZZZX is NOT confirmed town.

Agree with this.

ZZZX posting rates are 10x from the town games I've played with him. Not to mention tone\seriousness etc. This could be just because it's team Mafia and the playlist, but there's no particular push\post so far that's made me go 'Town'.

excluding last month my town games are always this serious.

[ZZZX]

also generally are you scum reading me for town reading wge btw?

[ZZZX]

Sotty (4) - Nachomamma8,

GreyICE

, Ooba,

Pirate Mollie

see this wagon. there is a greyice and a mollie. supposed mortal enemies. i will not approach this place.



ABR, ZZZX, I am relaying the both of you to vote ooba. wgeurts is here too so it is a more solid wagon than nachos wagon.

I ambuilding the chart atm