8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[ooba]

It's not going to be a mislynch.

Well, if it isn't, I actually will have to stop playing!! (Overconfidence has been my Achilles heal so should teach me something about life)

But if it is, let's make it vengeful. I'd like Nacho to state in thread who tomorrows lynch should be.

[GreyICE]

MS - didn't reply to this - so I'll ask you. Where do we stand tomorrow with a town Nacho flip on our hands?

Let me answer this for you. Me and my team already agreed on one thing: If nacho was town the only reason he wasnt quickly lynched was because his reads were accurate. so I will be lynching the hell out of eddie(whos not eddie anymore) / kagami for a first step

This is so true. Lynching Nacho will reveal everything to us.

We are wasting so many pages and time talking. Let's not make this so painful.

Are you seriously 100% that Nacho is scum? Like not this weak-ass Hoopla shit we got yesterday where you wouldn't even give me your vote (I COULD DO SO MANY GOOD THINGS WITH IT).

Can you like summarize why in one sentence even?

[GreyICE]

It's not going to be a mislynch.

Well, if it isn't, I actually will have to stop playing!! (Overconfidence has been my Achilles heal so should teach me something about life)

But if it is, let's make it vengeful. I'd like Nacho to state in thread who tomorrows lynch should be.

I, on the other hand, do not want Nacho to state this until we're at the edge.

Because that tells the scum to hop on or back off.

Like this guy.

[ooba]

Hoopla's lynch was nobody's fault except her own. We were so close to hammering Sotty (or was it Kagami) - would have been an infinitely better lynch.

[GreyICE]

Yes on all points. Sadly that observation is just common sense.

[GreyICE]

"Hehe" my shiny metal ass, Hoopla

[Metal Sonic]

"Hehe" my shiny metal ass, Hoopla

she can get the lowest player evaluation.

[ooba]

It's not going to be a mislynch.

Well, if it isn't, I actually will have to stop playing!! (Overconfidence has been my Achilles heal so should teach me something about life)

But if it is, let's make it vengeful. I'd like Nacho to state in thread who tomorrows lynch should be.

I, on the other hand, do not want Nacho to state this until we're at the edge.

Because that tells the scum to hop on or back off.

Like this guy.

By 'Like this guy' do you actually mean you like my play?

or Like this guy in conjunction with the previous sentence? "Because that tells the scum to hop on or back off." If it's this - I really wouldn't have disrupted the thread this much as scum. I hate playing scum and have zero motivation. I would have probably lurked out the day as scum with a token vote.

Nacho, however, seems to excel at reading me as either alignment so he should be able to tell the difference.

[GreyICE]

Like you. I think it's extremely extremely important for scum to know who Nacho is vigging prior to the "vigging plan" occurring. In fact I believe that that sort of thing is EXACTLY what they want.

[Metal Sonic]

Well, if it isn't, I actually will have to stop playing!! (Overconfidence has been my Achilles heal so should teach me something about life)

Complacency is my achilles heel too and I realise that even I am slipping into this sense already.


For some reason you are more "confident" than me despite being a new kid on the block replacement?

I find that hard to believe! No, your posts have actually "looked town" to the normal observer, ---- that is a compliment!

But it's almost like you took the book of Level 5 Town Tells (maybe borrowed from Nacho) and applied "Extreme Conviction in Reads = Town".

It is coming on too strong!

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's not going to be a mislynch.

I love you being sure and all but you should also think about others opinions for a change too. you know we both were wrong once on hoopla

I said Hoopla had a 30% chance of being scum. We lynched her because she contributed nothing, didn't read the game, proxy'd her vote to Grey, and kept aggravating confirmed town for no reason.

[Metal Sonic]

I would have probably lurked out the day as scum with a token vote.

There is no way you can survive like that with Seraphim's almost-Hoopla-level play. A moot point. Why are you raising this?

[GreyICE]

ABR it might seem I'm the serial killer who plays solo

But I'm willing to play ball

You take the ball

I may be rude and uncouth, but you ignore me and that is rude and uncouth too

Are you seriously 100% that Nacho is scum? Like not this weak-ass Hoopla shit we got yesterday where you wouldn't even give me your vote (I COULD DO SO MANY GOOD THINGS WITH IT).

Can you like summarize why in one sentence even?

[ooba]

Like you. I think it's extremely extremely important for scum to know who Nacho is vigging prior to the "vigging plan" occurring. In fact I believe that that sort of thing is EXACTLY what they want.

Can see your reasoning - sure, he can keep the info with him till the 'edge'.

Also, I would still give anything for a Sotty lynch. Make it happen!

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@MS:
I think good town replacements in general have much better reads than in thread people if they take the time out to read it in its entirety.

Also, I'm tired of town reads being lynched in game after game. The most recent experience has soured me in this regard. (You\Vezo should know)

Plus Nacho really has been *obvious* town this game. Scum cannot resonate thoughts on that level even if they play like their town selves would play it.

[Metal Sonic]

I would like to state that I do not find Nacho 100% scum but if he is then we are probably 100% going to lose so the best choice is to make sure he is 100% not scum! Then we know that is reads are 100% genuine! Right!

[Albert B. Rampage]

MS - didn't reply to this - so I'll ask you. Where do we stand tomorrow with a town Nacho flip on our hands?

Let me answer this for you. Me and my team already agreed on one thing: If nacho was town the only reason he wasnt quickly lynched was because his reads were accurate. so I will be lynching the hell out of eddie(whos not eddie anymore) / kagami for a first step

This is so true. Lynching Nacho will reveal everything to us.

We are wasting so many pages and time talking. Let's not make this so painful.

Are you seriously 100% that Nacho is scum? Like not this weak-ass Hoopla shit we got yesterday where you wouldn't even give me your vote (I COULD DO SO MANY GOOD THINGS WITH IT).

Can you like summarize why in one sentence even?

I knew Nacho was scum when he over-committed to his Kagami suspicion. It was very subtle, but it proves he's scum.

[Metal Sonic]

Also, I'm tired of town reads being lynched in game after game. The most recent experience has soured me in this regard. (You\Vezo should know)

I don't really know! Are you referring to Capcom where Nacho/Wisdom took a huge shit on us despite 2 good vigs cutting scum into pieces?

Or perhaps the most recent experience that I conftown and you not! Like this game.

[ooba]

I would have probably lurked out the day as scum with a token vote.

There is no way you can survive like that with Seraphim's almost-Hoopla-level play. A moot point. Why are you raising this?

Because it's what I would have done as scum.

Like I said - lack of motivation. I don't think I've ever survived to an endgame as scum.

On the other hand, I fight tooth and nail as town. I've also never been mislynched in the last x years as town.

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@MS: You are really letting paranoia get the better of you.

^pedit: The most recent experience

[Metal Sonic]

It was very subtle,

This is the ringer on the dinger!

All good players must be scumhunted on the appropriate level. The better they are, the more subtle their play will be (and of course, their town game).

I think that this is an obvious fact.

It is also an obvious fact that Nacho is like the best player among all of us.

[ooba]

MS - didn't reply to this - so I'll ask you. Where do we stand tomorrow with a town Nacho flip on our hands?

Let me answer this for you. Me and my team already agreed on one thing: If nacho was town the only reason he wasnt quickly lynched was because his reads were accurate. so I will be lynching the hell out of eddie(whos not eddie anymore) / kagami for a first step

This is so true. Lynching Nacho will reveal everything to us.

We are wasting so many pages and time talking. Let's not make this so painful.

Are you seriously 100% that Nacho is scum? Like not this weak-ass Hoopla shit we got yesterday where you wouldn't even give me your vote (I COULD DO SO MANY GOOD THINGS WITH IT).

Can you like summarize why in one sentence even?

I knew Nacho was scum when he over-committed to his Kagami suspicion. It was very subtle, but it proves he's scum.

That's another read he's rolled back his suspicion on though.

[Metal Sonic]

@MS: You are really letting paranoia get the better of you.

Sonic's defense against paranoia is: "Once you have someone as "conf" town, NEVER drop that read".

Nacho has never hit that "conf town" level in this game. So, paranoia is within healthy levels.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It was stronger than it should have been at the time he was pushing it. Like he chose the perfect player to mislynch and town was resisting it for meta reasons he didn't accept.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Alright, we are 1 day from deadline?

Guess I'm voting ooba.

[Metal Sonic]

Because it's what I would have done as scum.

Like I said - lack of motivation. I don't think I've ever survived to an endgame as scum.

Let me think about this.


might be a towntell, but based off your own words only, I have to take it at face value.

consulting.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I don't see why Ooba isn't voting Nacho if he's town. Even if he's right about Nacho, falling on his sword and getting mislynched today, and Nacho gets lynched tomorrow regardless, it's just a bad plan. Doing the vengekill is stupid. MS and I are as much confirmed town as Hoopla, yet no one save wgeurts wants to sheep us because "town can be wrong". That line of thinking is incompatible with the vengekill idea.