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[SleepyKrew]

SK why did you feel the need to announce that you were going to prod dodge?
What's your opinion on malakittens that's more than just 'she's buzzwordy'?

Because it would be rude to just start prod dodging? I mean, I'm not just doing this because I can. I'm gonna be busy.
I never called her buzzwordy. I called her out on one buzzword. I do, however, think she's scummy (I haven't read most of her argument with pie that happened after my vote though).

Like neener neeener I can get away with shit like this.

Yes, I'm fortunate to be in a position where I can lurk due to being busy without having to defend myself from a lynch. #whiteprivilege

[Save The Dragons]

I'm gonna be busy.

You realize that saying "because i'm obvtown" doesn't make this clear

I never called her buzzwordy. I called her out on one buzzword. I do, however, think she's scummy (I haven't read most of her argument with pie that happened after my vote though).

This is a non answer

[SleepyKrew]

You realize that saying "because i'm obvtown" doesn't make this clear

I kind of expected people to get it with context clues.

This is a non answer

"I think she's scummy (and would like to lynch her)" isn't an opinion?

[SleepyKrew]

I'm kind of surprised you're not considering that I was being facetious when I called myself obvtown. I mean, I

wasn't

being facetious; this is truly the most obvtown I've felt in ages. But I'm surprised the thought didn't cross your mind.

[Save The Dragons]

It only crossed my mind just now

After I found out you were going to be busy

[Save The Dragons]

I know you think she's scummy I was hoping you'd elaborate. I thought my question implied 'why are you scumreading mala' by the context but I suppose I walked into that answer.

So

why are you scumreading mala (other than buzzword)

[SleepyKrew]

Sleepykrew, Day 1 no lynches basically makes Day 2 a second Day 1 but with a dead town player in damn near every game where it happens. Do you disagree? Also, Cheet wants to know why Mala isn't in your lynch pool.

Except we had two claimed PRs, one of whom claimed to be investigative.
Uhh... Mala's pretty clearly in my lynch pool? And I'm voting her right now?

SK shouting he is obv town......

Obv town would not need to keep telling people they are obv town, and SK is not Obv town.

I called myself obvtown

once

before this here quoted post. I want to come up with a condescending nickname for you, but instead I'll say that you're not allowed to make cases or call people scummy or even imply that they're scummy until you can explain to the class why your case on Boon was absolute shit.

why are you scumreading mala (other than buzzword)

Well there was no reason to townread her after D1, and she was on the scummy side of null because of that post that I hated so much. Her interactions with pieguy are what made it a strong enough scumread to vote with intent to lynch.

[jasonT1981]

I called myself obvtown once before this here quoted post. I want to come up with a condescending nickname for you, but instead I'll say that you're not allowed to make cases or call people scummy or even imply that they're scummy until you can explain to the class why your case on Boon was absolute shit.

I'll take that under advisement

Actually, fuck it. You don't get to tell me what I can and can't do.

Seems you don't want me speaking my mind now I am asking questions about you.

As for the Boon thing - I ain't going down that road again explaining shit to you.

[Egg]

Yeah Cheet's question was outdated by the time I got to it lol. My bad

[Egg]

Yeah Cheet's question was outdated by the time I got to it lol. My bad

Still though, why wasn't she there at day start?

[SleepyKrew]

Seems you don't want me speaking my mind now I am asking questions about you.

is that what you think you're doing
because hint: that's not actually what you're doing

Yeah Cheet's question was outdated by the time I got to it lol. My bad

Still though, why wasn't she there at day start?

I think we're using lynchpool to mean different things? I consider my lynchpool to be the 5 people I'm not townreading. I'm assuming you're talking about Boon/yourself as my lynchpool since I said I'd prefer a lynch on one of you two? The reason she wasn't in that smaller group is because I have big ol scumreads for you and Boon, but only had a null-leaning-scum read on Mala at the time.

[Egg]

K

[Trojan Horse]

Boon is way too meta-aware for my liking. I still consider him a scumspect.

I'm going to get around to some VCA at some point.

Is Boon your top suspect, or is there someone else that you think is scummier?

[pieguyn]

yo jason, are you open to a Mala lynch today? what do you make of her recent behavior?

[Trojan Horse]

Oh, I should point out that Oversoul really likes pie's case against Mala. I might join the bandwagon, but I want to stick with Vyse for now. He really needs to be pressured.

[DeltaWave]

Actually it's the way you and Egg went about doing it. You wanted to flashwagonlynch Boon. You didn't want to give him the chance to claim or give him time to flesh out reads. Whereas me wanting a lynch, I wasn't able to push mine due to RL things etc until close to deadline, by the time it happened we already had two claims and I didn't want to risk lynching a PR./quote]

This is giving me a headache. You admit that you are on the same page on me, insofar as not wanting to lynch a PR claim D1. I also think you agree that we should lynch instead of no lynch on D1. Yet you're voting me because... I didn't want to lynch a PR claim D1, and I didn't want to no-lynch, so I voted my scumread as the deadline was soon approaching. I got a literal headache trying to figure out your logic here.

Boon is way too meta-aware for my liking. I still consider him a scumspect.

I'm going to get around to some VCA at some point.

Is Boon your top suspect, or is there someone else that you think is scummier?

I'm actually getting more certain about my townreads than anything else. I'll place Jason, pie, and SK in the town box for now. Boon is probably my #1 scumread, mostly because of this "I'm town because if I was scum I would have done XYZ" stuff. I'm sure his blatant OMGUS on me is contributing to this.

I'm unsure what Malakittens is doing right now. It seems a little too convoluted for misguided town. I'll come back to this later.

I think the VysePresident wagon is inexplicable. The guy has 2 posts and his predecessor was largely unremarkable.

I'll get to my vote stuff this weekend, I'm too tired right now for it. Mostly I want to look at the movement of votes at various times during the day.

[DeltaWave]

I see the Vyse wagon is a pressure wagon, nvm that part

[DeltaWave]

I messed up my quote. That's what I get for posting when I'm about to pass out. My Malakittens reply was:

This is giving me a headache. You admit that you are on the same page on me, insofar as not wanting to lynch a PR claim D1. I also think you agree that we should lynch instead of no lynch on D1. Yet you're voting me because... I didn't want to lynch a PR claim D1, and I didn't want to no-lynch, so I voted my scumread as the deadline was soon approaching. I got a literal headache trying to figure out your logic here.

[Egg]

I see the Vyse wagon is a pressure wagon, nvm that part

Don't you think it's possible he replaced in to a deadline situation, saw a wagon on his scumbuddy and a wagon on a townie, voted the townie, and planned on saying "well, I didn't have time to catch up"?

[Egg]

Delta, are you town reading Vyse?

[VysePresident]

I see the Vyse wagon is a pressure wagon, nvm that part

Don't you think it's possible he replaced in to a deadline situation, saw a wagon on his scumbuddy and a wagon on a townie, voted the townie, and planned on saying "well, I didn't have time to catch up"?

Don't you think it's possible I'm not a complete idiot? I'd have bussed him & his Hider claim into the ground and never looked back. I skimmed the ISOs up until about T-minus five, and I liked Thor better than Trojan.

Also, in regards to something Trojan(?) said, I didn't confer with my teammates because we're a bit of a disorganized mess at present. It's something I'd like to start working on, once I get my bearings in this game. I think Copper was the only one actively reading other games, and I came in right in time to join the panicked rush to find a replacement for him. Micc replaced out for biting off more than he could chew, and he didn't really leave me anything to work with.

Anyway, I'm getting up ridiculously early in the morning, so I'll be catching up over the weekend. If you guys want to offer an overview on your opinions, that'd be cool. (No, I didn't do so during the night phase. I've had a number of commitments this week as I'm getting ready to test for my second dan Taekwondo test, and another game I owed some time & attention.)

[Save The Dragons]

I think we really just need you to be present since Micc kind of dropped out partway through d1 and you ended up on the "wrong side of history" so to speak. You have time so I'm more interested in hearing your reads/opinions when you can produce them, rather than giving you an assessment of where I am at.

[VysePresident]

Why don't you want to interact with me?

[Boonskiies]

My team feels that Mala wouldn't put the effort into defending herself as she is if she was scum. Way too much effort. This is town mala. This was from Ika's perspective mainly, but GuyInFreezer still believes Mala is town for similar reasons.

[pieguyn]

.......

that's a really bad reason for reading her as town. GIF in particular should know this because of how Mala essentially rolled over and died in TH upick 3 where she was town and not in a position to do anything bc her RL went to shit, which is essentially the same scenario we have here. I would think she'd put *more* effort into defending herself as scum here bc she'd care more about her survival, not less.

I'm not saying her effort here is necessarily a scum tell, but it's a really shit reason to town read her.