We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Defensive PRs exist and/or we've wiped out a scum faction.

Given the numbers there'd have to be to make a 26-game bearable for even three scumteams, I really doubt the latter. That or Vyse must've been that fucking powerful to compensate.

[Oranje Crush]

Defensive PRs exist and/or we've wiped out a scum faction.

Given the numbers there'd have to be to make a 26-game bearable for even three scumteams, I really doubt the latter. That or Vyse must've been that fucking powerful to compensate.

The game is still 2 mini themes that were made without consult of the other mod. One of the games could have been 10:2:1 or 10:2:2 or something.

[Oranje Crush]

Or the Volcano Island faction could only have a traitor that can't NK.

There's a lot of explanations and not enough information to parse through it.

[Oranje Crush]

Also my other head wants to push Lucian so this is me saying that I think it's a dumb push.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

I really don't see four scumteams as a possibility, and 3+SK is only slightly more possible. If there's even 3+SK, where's the third kill? Nuked? Then is the "1" in one game something like a survivor or a non-killing 3rd party role?

P-EDIT: Is this BRO?

[Narninian]

I think my redirect probably worked.
yay.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

I think my redirect probably worked.
yay.

Then who'd you redirect it to? Us?

[Narninian]

I've been trying working out in my head whether its better to say what I did or not --- I guess we're all going to have bad speculation if I don't say what I did and one scum team will know anyway.

I redirected from Chivri - > Cerbrus. House called for Cerbrus's lynch and Chiviri was nearly confirmed innocent.
I considered that Death would be a target from werewolves if he's telling the truth, but after some WIFOM I thought it might be a waste to target death.

I'd love to take credit but I can't explain the lack of a second death.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Well, I'd agree that ChriVi was someone that town wasn't very likely to lynch, and was as close to being conftown as possible, but that still rested on Cerb telling the truth about his own role. Unless scum seriously feared that ChriVi would ramp it up on later days or something, why kill them? I don't think their death would have made any signficant read change from living players on Cerb, and the only one who was really pushing Cerb-scum died yesterday along with Vonflare.

Why Cerb?

[deathfisaro]

Well I'm alive, but I became jobless literally just now. The good news is I still have useful information to share.

I targeted

elusive

last night.

Reason behind picking elusive was setup speccing. As I mentioned earlier, a non-town faction completely getting wiped out and losing repeatable kills hurts the win chance of non-towns altogether, especially early game.
So if there's a lone werewolf SK, early death screws over the mafia factions. It helps a little bit to be able to kill an additional person to counter that drawback in game design.
Elusive claiming vig led to me suspecting she was the SK.

Now vonflare talked about renovator being perma tailor and stuff, but I really doubt on N1 Vyse rolecopped a werewolf and N2 vonflare dressed elusive as a werewolf. Those are really a series of rather random target choices.

So I believe 99.5% that the guilty is genuine. (The 0.5% is about the chance you draw a werewolf, and elusive in 2 runs from a random name picker )

elusive is the werewolf I was looking for.

VOTE: elusive

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Elusive claiming vig led to me suspecting she was the SK.

She did what now?

[Drixx]

So that's a claimed guilty anti-town result yeah? Interesting approach Elusive took when replacing into the game. I'll have to remember how sneaky she is (presuming Death is being honest).

[deathfisaro]

Elusive claiming vig led to me suspecting she was the SK.

She did what now?

Oh sorry, not vig, vengeful.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Oh, right, she did. Scratch 5560.

Vote: Elusive

[LucianRoy]

I've forgotten which role death claimed.

[deathfisaro]

The lack of another kill is a mystery.
As far as I know, the only remaining player awaiting replacement was vonflare but we lynched him so there's no MIA player.
TVL lost 2 players, if the sole remaining player is away the last 2 days, s/he couldn't have submitted a kill choice. This puts Boonskiies on the table as a potential 3rd member of TVL.
I think cop is a notably higher priority target than ChriVi / Cerberus. (since we're not 100% sure whether the target was actually ChriVi or Cerberus after all).

I don't know why I wasn't the target of choice from the werewolves. I thought Narn redirected from me to Drixx when I saw that I wasn't dead.

[deathfisaro]

I've forgotten which role death claimed.

My role title is "Town Skeptical Paranormal Investigator" and my 2 abilities are Seer and Skeptic.
Seer is simply a werewolf cop, and skeptic I've crumbed like 3~4 times already it should be pretty obvious, if no werewolf flips before D4 I lose my seer ability.

This is like the 3rd time I'm quoting my claim.

[Oranje Crush]

VOTE: Elusive

[BRantz]

VOTE: Elusive

We should also figure out some number of us to vote for BB to make sure we trigger his ability today.

[Drixx]

I'll be voting Elusive as well ... I'd rather at least get a chance to see what she says before we flashwagon though.

Intent to vote/hammer Elusive

.

I'll be back later.

[BRantz]

ebwop: With 16 players still alive, 4 people voting for BB should guarantee him being the second biggest wagon, and keep him out of danger of becoming an accidental lynch.

[Oranje Crush]

#maths

[Oranje Crush]

P-EDIT: Is this BRO?

Missed this.

yes I'm bro. The posting style makes it obvious

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

Also thinking Brantz should use his last shot, either today or tomorrow. Probly toda, and not just because Elusive already looks primed to be the lynched.

[Oranje Crush]

What's your line of reasoning for that, because that seems like a kind of bizarre choice.