We Didn't Playtest This | Game over, everyone loses

[BRantz]

Agree with titus. I think at least one of Drixx and death is mafia (but probably not both?)

[deathfisaro]

Elusive's Death means he is not likely werewolf. It says nothing about mafia.

elusive's death means that he is 100% confirmed werewolf

elusive is a she, and Titus's "he" probably is me.

If I'm mafia, Boon is also mafia because he conftown'd me.
It's like a one-way mason in practice. Even if I flip, that doesn't clear Boon of anything. If Boon flips town, I'm indeed conftown. If Boon flips scum, I'll be a mystery.

Just waiting for elusive's vengeful to proc. Then we'll have a better idea as to who we should pursue today as a lynch.

[BRantz]

I would assume that order of operations is used if multiple people target bc at night. I know there is an order of resolution for night actions that give some priority over others.

Though I also agree that it is useless to talk any more about it.

On my ability, if I guarantee that I will use it some time in the next 3 days (before the end of day 7) is that good enough for you bc? I am willing to do it today, but playing chicken with the people nuking from orbit is entertaining me.

[BRantz]

Ebwop: Oh yeah, I forgot boon had an innovative on you death.

[BRantz]

Innocent*

[God of Power Outlets]

Elusive's Death means he is not likely werewolf. It says nothing about mafia.

elusive's death means that he is 100% confirmed werewolf

elusive is a she, and Titus's "he" probably is me.

If I'm mafia, Boon is also mafia because he conftown'd me.
It's like a one-way mason in practice. Even if I flip, that doesn't clear Boon of anything. If Boon flips town, I'm indeed conftown. If Boon flips scum, I'll be a mystery.

Just waiting for elusive's vengeful to proc. Then we'll have a better idea as to who we should pursue today as a lynch.

i gotcha, apparently my reading comprehension is shit today

[Drixx]

I don't believe that there are any more werewolves. It seems likely to me that Elusive was the only one and was SK. I don't see any reason Elusive should have expected to be outed and killed and therefore I see no reason why a multi-werewolf faction would have held off their kill in order to make it seem like there was just the one. Elusive also seemed to genuinely be trying to get us to leash her and let her keep playing.

That makes my role at best zero utility to the town. It's actually negative utility in my mind because few people, if any, actually believe I'm town (aside from the scum, who know at least that I'm not scum with them). This makes me a huge liability in MYLO/LYLO situations.

Therefore, logically, if we can afford to mislynch, I should be killed today to mod confirm my role and alignment and to prevent me from being mislynch bait in the endgame. I'm obviously controversial enough to be a liability in the endgame. I would much rather die now and ensure that I don't cost the town the game later.

So ... if you aren't sure about me and you don't forsee ever viewing me as town, I suggest you vote to lynch me. If nothing I can do or say will ever remove doubt, then it's better to get me out of the way now when it won't lose the game. This is

NOT

an attempt to sway you. I'm not trying to avoid being lynched here. I'm being fully rational and serious here. When I plugged back into the game and started trying to help, I think I made some pretty good posts, and a lot of what I said has turned out to be spot on. If that isn't enough to convince you, then you are unlikely to ever be convinced.

So yeah ... cliffnotes: If you are town and you aren't ever likely to trust me, then lynch me now when doing so doesn't cost us the game. I won't be mad. I think it's the logically correct move in such a situation now that my role is unlikely to provide utility. There should also be quite a lot to learn from reviewing interactions between me and others.

[God of Power Outlets]

I don't think you're scum, Drixx

I do worry that you might be scum-BP-against-SK butyou're a smart enough guy to know that offering yourself for rope is very likely to result in your lynch

honestly, I don't see scum saying that

[Oranje Crush]

@Oranje Crush

OC - what were you so afraid of that you had to constantly commute? There were so many likely NK candidates like investigative claims. Who would want to shoot a claimed commuter over claimed investigatives? Questionable. Or did you secretly un-amenisiac'd yourself?

Was there a night you didn't commute?
Did you un-amnesiac yourself as a result?
Why are you afraid of NKs that you have to keep commuting?
Why hide the information if you're town?

We have commuted every night.

We may or may not have remembered our other PR. Not saying.

Why would we not commute if our options are commuting or doing nothing?

Why would I give information to scum? Extending this logic would mean you should start every game with mass claim, which is obviously stupid.

[Oranje Crush]

Join me in a glorious p5 lynch. I can promise a 2/3+ chance of him flipping scum!

[deathfisaro]

3 people would likely be dead by tomorrow (vengeful, lynch, and incinerate - no nuking at the end of today I strongly believe). The game will be far more solvable. Even if those 3 are all town, it's not any harder than a 13p D2.
At least we should wait a day or two for the vengeful before commiting today's lynch.

@elusive
Can you do a public service and just blow PV away?
I feel like the least intent-revealing wagon in this game in current state is PV, and lynching PV doesn't allow much VCA.

[deathfisaro]

@Oranje Crush

OC - what were you so afraid of that you had to constantly commute? There were so many likely NK candidates like investigative claims. Who would want to shoot a claimed commuter over claimed investigatives? Questionable. Or did you secretly un-amenisiac'd yourself?

Was there a night you didn't commute?
Did you un-amnesiac yourself as a result?
Why are you afraid of NKs that you have to keep commuting?
Why hide the information if you're town?

We have commuted every night.

We may or may not have remembered our other PR. Not saying.

Why would we not commute if our options are commuting or doing nothing?

Why would I give information to scum? Extending this logic would mean you should start every game with mass claim, which is obviously stupid.

I thought it was either commuting or having a chance of remember something. I didn't know it was both. If it is, either you didn't do good job at wording your claim as such, or I'm dyslexic.

[BRantz]

Deal. VOTE: PeregrineV

I also don't think you would post that as scum Drixx.

[Bulbasaur Commonwealth]

3 people would likely be dead by tomorrow (vengeful, lynch, and incinerate - no nuking at the end of today I strongly believe). The game will be far more solvable. Even if those 3 are all town, it's not any harder than a 13p D2.
At least we should wait a day or two for the vengeful before commiting today's lynch.

@elusive
Can you do a public service and just blow PV away?
I feel like the least intent-revealing wagon in this game in current state is PV, and lynching PV doesn't allow much VCA.

Agree with waiting for the vengeful, at least.

[Titus]

3 people would likely be dead by tomorrow (vengeful, lynch, and incinerate - no nuking at the end of today I strongly believe). The game will be far more solvable. Even if those 3 are all town, it's not any harder than a 13p D2.
At least we should wait a day or two for the vengeful before commiting today's lynch.

@elusive
Can you do a public service and just blow PV away?
I feel like the least intent-revealing wagon in this game in current state is PV, and lynching PV doesn't allow much VCA.

I don't think she will.

@TPTG, I was meaning Lucian wasn't Elusive's kill. Who paints a player as scum if they are delayed nightkilling them.

I would expect scum to buddy House and not care his investigation choices were utterly stupid.

[ChriVi]

ChriVi - I agree. I want to see which roles fit what setup.

If cerb wasn't dead I'd just have him investigate that for you... Damn I shoulda protected Cerb that night too (although conftown is nice and his investigative part wasn't that amazing)

I really think cerb's role's main part was the one-way mason so if he gets killed he can conftown.

Also he investigated one of the mason's and found they were made from a different mod than me and Cerb so I find their masonry much more likely..

Titus, give me your reads. Like, a full reads list. It'd be nice, and I like the way you think.

Can you wait for me to do a VCA?

Yep yep, take your time, I'm not in any hurry (we did just start the day after all.)

[Titus]

Ok. It will likely get done tomorrow. Tonight is DnD.

[Boonskiies]

Oh look, Molla was telling the truth and night was skipped.

Hey Titus, why were you so against that again?

Like, I mean, I get that you were finally down for it day 4


but we had more investigatives alive Days 1 and 2

I wasn't. Everyone else was. I lost the argument. I wanted to ensure an extra day. Yeah we are not timing there though.

Plus if you believe Death and Boon are town skeptic cops with a night trigger, skipping only hurts those cops.



I agree Brantz should be using his shot.

I'm pretty sure that it's almost been proven that we are both what we claim...I don't see what you're getting at here. There should be absolutely no question that we are something else. Unless you think, as mafia scum buddies, we would claim the exact same role for different factions, in death's case a faction that wasn't even confirmed yet, and that I would innocent him. yeah, sorry. No question at all that we're both Town.

[Boonskiies]

Elusive's Death means he is not likely werewolf. It says nothing about mafia.

I got a 'not mafia' on Death, so yeah, it does.

[Titus]

@Boon mod provided fake claims are a thing.

[Boonskiies]

doesn't change the fact i got a 'not mafia' on him.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.06

VysePresident (5)

-

copper223,

Toon Fighter,

ChriVi,

Narninian, deathfisaro

vonflare (5)

- ActionDan, [/color=red]Pirate Ika,

BRantz,

Ozgin,

Oranje Crush

LucianRoy (2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx

Toon Fighter (2)

-

Never-melt-ice

Marquis

,

vonflare

deathfisaro (2)

-

Om of the Nom,

elusive

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Soren (1)

Magua[/i] - Cerberus v666

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Jackel98

Reubus Swagrid (1)

That VCA Chick -

Soren

Magua

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- BBmolla

Not Voting (5)

: PeregrineV, VysePresident, Reubus Swagrid, Dani, LucianRoy, Boonskiies

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Dani has declared V/LA for tech issues.[/color]

[Titus]

If anyone wants to help with my VCA, reposting all mod posts with flips and ChiVi town only help.

[Titus]

Oh and TPTG and TF are 99.9% confirmed not orange.

[Plotinus]

Vote Count 1.06

VysePresident (5)

-

copper223,

Toon Fighter

,

ChriVi,

Narninian, deathfisaro

vonflare (5)

- ActionDan,

Pirate Ika,

BRantz,

Ozgin,

Oranje Crush

LucianRoy (2)

- Bulbasaur Commonwealth, Drixx

Toon Fighter (2)

-

Never-melt-ice

Marquis

,

vonflare

deathfisaro (2)

-

Om of the Nom,

elusive

,

Three-Pronged Trouser God

Soren (1)

Magua[/i] - Cerberus v666

Oranje Crush (1)

-

Jackel98

Reubus Swagrid (1)

That VCA Chick -

Soren

Magua

Bulbasaur Commonwealth (1)

- BBmolla

Not Voting (5)

: PeregrineV, VysePresident, Reubus Swagrid, Dani, LucianRoy, Boonskiies

With 25 votes in play, it takes 13 to lynch.

Deadline falls in (expired on 2015-03-17 11:57:34).

Dani has declared V/LA for tech issues.

Fixed colours. I put TPTG and TF as a lighter green (would've made it darker but it was too hard to distinguish from regular green)