Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[mastin2]

Screw it.

I'll take full responsibility for this.

Draw ffery's ire. Risk my friendship with Nacho.

VOTE: singersigner.
If anyone feels similarly to me, I urge you follow me.

[Cheetory6]

Bleh.
bleh bleh bleh.
UNVOTE:
Can't condone a hammer on Action right now. I like the wagon being big though.

[Cheetory6]

VOTE: Espeonage
This is where my heart's at right now.
Maybe my heart will be behind an AD lynch when I'm caught up in that area of the world but no thanks tonight.

[ActionDan]

p-pedit: [redacted] Was about to claim but L-2. I'll claim with intent declared if it's needed

pedit:

I'd like a day to read over singer/zar/empire.

[mastin2]

And I know that by doing this, I'm dismantling a potential wagon on scum.
Dan's been at my nullscum list for ages.

I really, really, really shouldn't be dismantling this wagon.

But I also really, really, really don't like the wagon.

And really, really feel like it's just...

right

to push for a singer lynch. Everything in the world is telling me that I should be overriding the conftown, telling them to listen to me rather than the other way around. It's arrogant beyond all measure. Reckless, and unlikely to even work. A singer lynch would be hard to do even without resistance, but with it, I risk dividing the town in half by pushing for it over a Dan lynch.

Yet I can't help it. I just...can't find myself comfortable compromising on a lynch right now.

[Cheetory6]

I don't really think singer is scum though q.q

[Titus]

*pulls hair out*

Ok, Mastina, you are literally asking me to tunnel on a lesser deadline with a day 1 that has gone on far too long to impose my will onto the group to fight a wagon I feel is largely towndriven to push what I want. That sounds like the exact shit that got me to universally hated as town.

You get the votes, I am there. No questions asked.

[mastin2]

For what it's worth, pie similarly to me likes how Dan's reacting to his wagon and thinks it's town.

[mastin2]

And, yes, Titus.

I know exactly what I'm asking.

Frankly, I kinda sorta feel like I'm trying to Nacho a game where Nacho is effectively present. You know, pull the Talesesque trick of, at the end of D1's deadline, flashwagoning someone and pushing it through? Except on scum since I'm town, rather than the other way around.

A daunting task that could in theory be a blow a-la me pushing catbug/vezok. But instead, it feels like me pushing Ceph, be it that game or in Tales, where it's a push on scum, by town, that is hardpressed but not impossible.

I'm fully aware of just how much a stellar IDIOT I would look like if singer flipped town.
But I also know that I'll feel much, MUCH worse if I DON'T push her through and she's scum.

[Titus]

For what it's worth, pie similarly to me likes how Dan's reacting to his wagon and thinks it's town.

Why?

[mastin2]

I mean, I realize I've only got three scumreads, one weak (Marquis).
And I realize that the scumreads I have are ever so slightly weaker than their equivalent townreads-that-I-townblocked. (TTH, Bulbazak, and Titus.)

Meaning that even if I'm right, I'm not entirely right.

Even though ignoring my townbloc-townreads if I'm wrong about these scumreads would be a mistake...
...It should say something that

I'm willing to risk it

.
I'm willing to risk being ignored about TTH, Bulbazak, and Titus being town (even though people should REALLY listen to these and realize that even if EVERY other read of mine was wrong, they're not scum and I'm right), if I end up utterly failing about singer being scum.

...But that's because singer is a scumread of mine that I can't let go of. Not when it's this strong. Not when it's like this.

[Untrod Tripod]

stop your vanity vote

singer isn't getting lynched today

participate with the game

[mastin2]

Why?

If you're expecting me to be in a logical mood, I'm sorry to sorely disappoint you.

This drive is not, and never has been, driven by logic.

It's purely gut.

[mastin2]

stop your vanity vote

Check again.

It's anything but.

There's three or four current voters, with at least one or two more who have at least passing interest in joining.

That's not vanity. That's counterwagon practicality.

It can be done.

Titus:

You can revote Dan later if you'd like. Vote singer now. People like UT paying attention to the literal numbers (idiotic as that is) will see one less vote and think the wagon is one less vote from being viable.

[Cheetory6]

I'm going to be self-centered and say that it's entirely my fault that mastin is being overconfident about her reads because I said I wanted to sheep her after DoA.
Shit.

[fferyllt]

I like AD's reaction. I don't know if nacho will like it too but I think so.

[Formerfish]

The fuck did I just do?

I have to be back at work in 8 hours, I will try to be here tomorrow night.

[Titus]

VOTE: Singersinger

Can Mastina pick one of the lynches and FFery pick the other as long as you don't pick in each other's townblocks? Conftown gets a lynch, my best townread gets a lynch. We all are happy and we get town cohesion.

[Titus]

I'm going to be self-centered and say that it's entirely my fault that mastin is being overconfident about her reads because I said I wanted to sheep her after DoA.
Shit.

So why don't you?

[Cheetory6]

So why don't I what? Sheep mastin?

I don't really think singer is scum

[Shadoweh]

Why do you have to do everything so dramatically mastin? <.< I'm pretty sure Nacho is not going to disown you over a wagon.
Seriously stop shooting your vote in the foot right after you made it. Do you think you're doing the right thing? If yes, argue for it!

I just can't take leaving it this way, and my team says to do something, so SOMETHING DO. I haven't been responding to singer's case posts because uh, they're bad, and I didn't want to deal with them. This is actually the first time I read her bolded case thing.
Her bolded case can be summed up as:
1 - Something I didn't do, I baned Bulba because I thought he was scummy and didn't say it was because of Empire or Zar. The post she linked didn't mention Zar as a reason. This is the only part of her case that actually pertains to me, so the fact that it's wrong is pretttty awkward.
2 - Something that apparently even singer/regfan didn't think was scummy, I'm guessing this was me talking about optimal play.
3 - Something that doesn't hold now that TTH isn't a scumread to them.
4 - this isn't a point but none of her post links lead anywhere for me, i don't think anyone read her case because no one told her this <.<

Singer said she would explain why I had to be lynched yesterday and that didn't happen. The thing is Regfan doesn't actually know how to read me, or at the least should recognize I'm not being cute and stodgy like the scum that he thought was town. Also she didn't have the courtesy to acknowledge that I was mad at her. And this is likely to come up tomorrow anyways the minute ffery and Nacho turn their backs. I supose that's another reason I was in favor of lynching Espy, but this is the wagon i actually have concrete ~feelings~ about. At least someone commented on heer case so she can respond. <3

##Vote: Singersigner

UT: Dan went from vanity to L-1 in a day. You will vote your mother right now for a nickel. If you don't want to actually think about who you're lynching then just sit there and keep voting for whoever swings highest.

[Cheetory6]

Fek that quote is supposed to be me.
Sorry.

[Titus]

So why don't I what? Sheep mastin?

I don't really think singer is scum

Where the fuck did I say that? Certainly not any recent posting or it was a typo.

[Cheetory6]

I shouldn't post things when I'm tired.

[Titus]

Cheetory, let me show you the posts in a nut shell why I think singer is scum.