8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Albert B. Rampage]

do you think I will survive today after Nacho gave 2 scum

Yes you are surviving, obviously. I'm not lynching you.

[ooba]

Ooba, do you think I will survive today after Nacho gave 2 scum
Why are you hard buddying me

I expect you to survive today because
- Wgeurts sort of saw the truth yesterday
- ZZZX has moved towards the light today. He's already called your voting record 100% town.

I don't see you getting lynched today - if town just critically evaluate game state and wagons.

I need you on board for my five votes I need for a scum MS lynch.

[Metal Sonic]

i'm going to read through now, expect a long post. i'll f5 frequently

[ooba]

By meta dive, you'll actually tunnel in with a view that I'm scum.

Answer me this:

I flip town, you admit you've screwed up and I get the vengeful lynch. YES\NO?

NO.

That deal only applies to GreyICE

If these three conditions apply:

a) You're town

b) Nacho's town
c) You lynch me and ignore my vengeful instructions

expect me to single handedly tank your player ratings because you lost this game for town.

YES.

I will accept responsibility if I lost this game for town.

But I want to add another clause:

d) GreyICE's town.


Give me a lower player rating than Hoopla if that ever comes true.

Deal.

Acknowledged.

i have to suck ooba's dick if you are town

Don't worry - the bolded condition sets you free.

[Metal Sonic]

scum need to change tactic since our townblock is now at critical mass and the remaining scum (2) aree critically low mass

[Albert B. Rampage]

Listen up. Scum bussing game is the long con, easy to get nice early lynches and get overconfident, hard to finish. Scum buddying games are hard to nail the initial scum, easy to mop up. We are in scenario number two, ladies and gentlemen. Ooba can't undo the damage Seraphim did by buddying/ignoring/defending the shit out of Kagami and Sotty, or his lurking.

[ooba]

scum need to change tactic since our townblock is now at critical mass and the remaining scum (2) aree critically low mass

So who is scum and what strategy are they changing?

If your certain I'm scum, take me up on my offer. Your town death would crucify scum-me.

I'm going 1:1 with Metal Sonic. Your town bloc is broken and I need to take steps to fix it.

Lynch him. If he flips town, you can kill me tomorrow.

Vote: MS

Just literally open the tab where he pleads to Nacho to change the lists and tell me you don't see scum partner with Sotty\Kagami written all over it.

[Metal Sonic]

By meta dive, you'll actually tunnel in with a view that I'm scum.

Answer me this:

I flip town, you admit you've screwed up and I get the vengeful lynch. YES\NO?

NO.

That deal only applies to GreyICE

If these three conditions apply:

a) You're town

b) Nacho's town
c) You lynch me and ignore my vengeful instructions

expect me to single handedly tank your player ratings because you lost this game for town.

YES.

I will accept responsibility if I lost this game for town.

But I want to add another clause:

d) GreyICE's town.


Give me a lower player rating than Hoopla if that ever comes true.

Deal.

Acknowledged.

i have to suck ooba's dick if you are town

Don't worry - the bolded condition sets you free.

you put it there on purpose you slimy baba

look at the deal i gave grayice

Actually I'd prod you to agree if I thought there was any chance of me being lynched today. You know how fucking good of a town player I am, and after mislynching me, you'd owe it to me.

Then we are going to have to modify the conditions a

little

lot because obviously I am never getting lynches ^_^

I said four names. Didn't say you'd be on them.

Now, if I'm town, you've fucked up pretty hard, neh? You know I'm a good scumhunter. I'd be confirmed town. I list four, you flip them until the first green one. This is a very fair proposition given how badly you've fucked up, right?

And I thought you were gonna do the " ignore me if you flip town" shtick!

Of course you want now to chain lynches which I totally find not okay!

First, Pirate Mollie has shown me that you're not the worst thing ever. You're like 15. Everyone was once, you outgrow it. Don't got no clue what her excuse is.

Second, you do realize this lynch chain is predicated on Quadz confirming my town status, and goes until I'm wrong, right? Do you have something against the idea of three or four scum lynches in a row?

Neh, you'd be suicidal if you'd think I'll be on there. I meant that you can't be touching me and I have every power to lynch you WHILE not giving a baloney about your 4 reads promise.

The nerve of you to be proposing such a thing when I'm already subscribing to Lord Nacho ideology, which is the exact same thing EXCEPT he is a better SCUMHUNTER than you are AND I am not even sure that he is scum!



But, I acknowledge your efforts to reach out to me. So here.

4 names.

If you flip scum, null and void.

If Eddie flips town, also null and void.

Deal or no deal?

PS: you are right that my iso is shit

[Metal Sonic]

scum need to change tactic since our townblock is now at critical mass and the remaining scum (2) aree critically low mass

So who is scum and what strategy are they changing?

If your certain I'm scum, take me up on my offer. Your town death would crucify scum-me.

I'm going 1:1 with Metal Sonic. Your town bloc is broken and I need to take steps to fix it.

Lynch him. If he flips town, you can kill me tomorrow.

Vote: MS

Just literally open the tab where he pleads to Nacho to change the lists and tell me you don't see scum partner with Sotty\Kagami written all over it.

in our most recent experience you also pulled this bananas against conftown me

i'd be even more of a moron than i am now to go down with you!

[Metal Sonic]

ooba, you want to 1:1?

here is my accept your duel

VOTE: ooba

[ooba]

MS - never before in my Mafiascum career have posts screamed alignment to me as these posts do.

You think I can be reasoned with and shaken off - I cannot.

If ABR is your scumbuddy, he thinks I can be lynched - I cannot.

You're going down - it's just a matter of time.

Grey, what do you think of these three posts where MS tries to get Nacho to change his list that leads with {Sotty, Kagami....}

Here's the main posts where its obvious for those who don't have the time to go through other points.

#2235-8: He pleads with Nacho for any changes to his list.

LAST WORDS! LAST WILL! ANY CHANGES???? (I KNOW YOU WILL)

EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS VERY IMPORTANT

IF WE LOSE IT IS ON YOU.

YOU WILL LEAD US TO VICTORY.

BE THE KING AND LORD FOR ALL OF US AND BRING US TO VICTORY

yeah if you have any changes to your plan because of that shitty opportunistic wagon composition (note: mollie + grey on the same wagon, sotty not even voting you) you really should give them before your heart stops

[Metal Sonic]

i need to analyse on the last 10 or so pages 1st


i wantt to know what triggered ooba

the trigger will lead to the cause

the cause will lead to the intent

the intent will determine the alignment

[ooba]

ooba, you want to 1:1?

here is my accept your duel

VOTE: ooba

Excellent. Let's tango.

I already see you're setting up a defense in case I lose. (and flip town)

in our most recent experience you also pulled this bananas against conftown me

i'd be even more of a moron than i am now to go down with you!

[Metal Sonic]

If ABR is your scumbuddy, he thinks I can be lynched - I cannot.

seriously? this is on the table now?



amusing

i want to see what good stuff you have

[Metal Sonic]

I already see you're setting up a defense in case I lose. (and flip town)

correct. i'm not getting lynched regardless of what you flip. it has always been that way.

[Metal Sonic]

if you're town, i want to slap you into sense that metal sonic is town

if you're scum, GG

[GreyICE]

Everyone is on the table.

Everyone.

Pedit: Yeah, even you MS.

[ooba]

If ABR is your scumbuddy, he thinks I can be lynched - I cannot.

seriously? this is on the table now?



amusing

i want to see what good stuff you have

The stuff is already out there on the table.

Those three fucking posts! Those three goddman posts where Nacho says "Sotty -> Kagami -> Grey -> Zar" and you go: "yeah if you have any changes to your plan because of that shitty opportunistic wagon composition (note: mollie + grey on the same wagon, sotty not even voting you) you really should give them before your heart stops"

I don't if your partner is mollie or ABR but I know you are scum.

So let's do this.

[ooba]

I already see you're setting up a defense in case I lose. (and flip town)

correct. i'm not getting lynched regardless of what you flip. it has always been that way.

Really.

I, ooba - as town, am perfectly willing to get lynched today to see you flip tomorrow.

[Metal Sonic]

Everyone is on the table.

Everyone.

Pedit: Yeah, even you MS.

i just want to win fast

[ooba]

Your three main pushes this game have been:
- wgeurts in the initial stages
- GreyIce FOR ALMOST THE ENTIRE GAME, where you set up an associative with Sotty
- And my slot

You hard defended Kagami wagon on multiple occasions.

if you're town, i want to slap you into sense that metal sonic is town

I'm sorry - I'm not wavering.

You've already lost this game.

It's 6:2.

If I get you lynched, it's 6:1 tomorrow and its trivially easy to lynch your partner across two days.
If somehow town screw this up and lynch me today (5:2), my vengeful lynch will be you for tomorrow. (5:1) And again game over.

So your best bet is try and get me lynched today. And spread up the FUD so that they don't honour my Vengeful choice.

[Metal Sonic]

If ABR is your scumbuddy, he thinks I can be lynched - I cannot.

seriously? this is on the table now?



amusing

i want to see what good stuff you have

The stuff is already out there on the table.

Those three fucking posts! Those three goddman posts where Nacho says "Sotty -> Kagami -> Grey -> Zar" and you go: "yeah if you have any changes to your plan because of that shitty opportunistic wagon composition (note: mollie + grey on the same wagon, sotty not even voting you) you really should give them before your heart stops"

I don't if your partner is mollie or ABR but I know you are scum.

So let's do this.

i'll get to that later.



let me give you a deposit first


Sonic's trajectory:


Think.. consider Sees shiny think... think... consider FRENZY
Hoopla -------------------- Nacho ------------> Ooba --------------> Nacho -----------------> Sotty ------ / --> Kagami
| | |
| wants grey grey| waits for ooba |
| | |


This is ooba's trajectory:

FRENZY
Nacho -----------> Sotty -/--------------------------> Kagami | Grey
| | |
| | |
| attempted derail | |
|_______________| Attacks sonic
DERAIL FAILED


This is a poorly drawn illustration of your actions in the game!

Destroy it.

[Metal Sonic]

FUCK

[Metal Sonic]

Both lynched Nacho by creating an air of fear, uncertainty and doubt about that player slot

but i like this very, very, very, very much.

ooba and seraphim are like worlds apart.

mollie and eddie are also worlds apart.

do you know why I liked that quote a lot, ooba?

because it shows analysis yet going headstrong against convention.

that is why i wanted more from you.


but what get is, as usual, not what i expect!

i'll post my response within an hour.

[Metal Sonic]

can i trust the town to kill the scum if

Albert B. Rampage, GreyICE, Pirate Mollie, wgeurts, Zar, ZZZX

?
2 scum, 4 town.


i think i can.