8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Metal Sonic]

i maintain the townblock of ABR and ZZZX

[wgeurts]

Ooba, I would rather lynch GreyICE I've decided. The reason, I still don't trust you.
If GreyICE flips town, then I'll listen. If she now flips scum, I'll seriously consider an ICE/Seraphim scum team.
Metal, can you hold your wrath for one more day and vote Grey?
Do it for nacho, we're following his plan and my paranoia is telling me scum are successfully derailing it.
I need to know GreyICE's alignment to see wether I can trust certain people.

[wgeurts]

Metal,
How isn't it clear I'm town now?

Also, can we lynch Zar if we mislynch today. As 1. If he flips scum we will win with any two man town bloc and 2. If he's town I'm pretty sure he'll be used at a LYLO situation to loose the game.

[Metal Sonic]

i read through everything. i am intentionally making myself difficult by going to the long way.


i hate the vengeful plan, because i trust only myself. okay, i pledge allegiance to nacho, and jesus has proven himself time and time again.



i need to relook at the game. now.


greyice. do what you have to do

[Metal Sonic]

Sonic's ultimate battle 1
-because he has to make up for his lack of good posts in the past 2 weeks

When pushing for a lynch - you now have to keep asking yourself 'Who the hell is scum with this person. So Sotty + Kagami + ??? + ??? - those other two'

I have never done this. In this game, I have scumhunted all players individually, knowing that 3 scum down would mean a clear game for us. In Day 2 when I wrote my thesis on why the vengeful plan is extremely prone to failure, it was on the basis that we do not mindlessly sheep bad dead town's reads. If they're dead, they're bad. If they're bad, we should not listen to them.

Anyway, the plan that I had for the game was to remove scum up till a certain critical point, then the masonblock of me, ABR and ZZZX would be able to endgame the two scum. Zero paranoia, absolute trust. My entire goal for the game was to establish this block, remove the most dangerous scum, and the final outliers will be swept.

Granted, there were no associatives to even look at in Day 2, which was why I did not remotely consider the option. It is a reasonable point to do so after two flipped scum, however, if you notice my style, it is not how I operate.

Ok - you say GreyIce as a possible third? You analyse 'GreyIce' ~ 'Sotty' interactions. You'll come with the feeling that "HEY - THATS NOT A BUS" - and you'll know Grey is town.

Completely ignoring my exact post detailing why GreyICE - Sotty made sense.

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i am stopping this post here. it is pointless.

Of course I am town

Your "slam" list was 2 town:1 scum. Oddly, in an 8:4, that's what you'd expect Random.org to give you. If you're town, you might wish to reflect on that.

this hit hard.

[Metal Sonic]

i will read the bible of nacho again.

[Metal Sonic]

ooba's entire case is on how unfaithful i am to nacho

i have sinned and you have all the right to slam me on that point.


go ahead.

[Metal Sonic]

i have deviated. i have bent. i am going to break. I will not commit the last deadly sin.


nacho knows me better than mollie. i have seen him scum, he has seen me town, i have been scum with him, i have been town with him.





i am a terrible player

[Metal Sonic]

greyice. write everything you can. then call me to vote you.

[wgeurts]

Thanks metal, lets get ZZZX back on the plan as well.

My ideal wagon would be me/MS/ZZZX/Mollie/Ooba

Also, doesn't anyone find it strange Zar's gone so quiet.

[wgeurts]

Also your avatar is cracking me up.

[Metal Sonic]

Give Sotty 48 hours to prepare her list of four names. If she provides them and flips town, follow her reads exactly. If she doesn't post them and flips town, then Metal Sonic chooses the next day's lynch, with the caveat that he does not lynch ZZZX. If Sotty flips scum, follow the same procedure with Kagami.

It is important that this plan is followed to a T: lynch order is important, trusting town whenever they are lynched is important. If you are town, prepping the best list you possibly can is important.

Is anything about this unclear/unsatisfactory?

GREYICE MAKE YOUR LIST. WE ARE FOLLOWING THE VENGEFUL PLAN.

PUT ME ON THE LIST IF YOU WANT ME DEAD. I WILL HONOR EVERYTHING.

[Metal Sonic]

I WILL SHUT DOWN ANYBODY THAT DOES NOT FOLLOW THE WORDS OF NACHO

FOR REAL.

THE POISON OF THE SERPENTINE OOBA WILL BE QUASHED.

[wgeurts]

T'is the holy path brother.
It must be done.

[Metal Sonic]

THERE IS NO TOWN BLOCK

THERE IS ONLY NACHO, OR NOTHING.

[Metal Sonic]

NOBODY BELIEVED THAT JESUS WOULD COME BACK FROM THE DEAD. HE RESURRECTED 3 DAYS AFTER HE WAS CRUCIFIED.

NOBODY BELIEVED THE WITNESSES WHEN THEY SAID THAT JESUS RESURRECTED. HE DID.

JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SINS. WE WILL FOLLOW HIS WORD.

[Metal Sonic]

OOBA.

IF YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME,

WAIT YOUR TURN.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Stop your hero worshiping, it's pathetic.

[wgeurts]

It's actualy rather amusing.

[Metal Sonic]

i'm pathetic

[Metal Sonic]

if greyice is indeed the good scumhunter that he is, and town

then he should invoke that power that his reputation is known for.

this is what the lynch will do for us:

a) CLEAR ALL PARANOIA, 100%, OF HIS READS.
b) he's going to fuck over the last 2 scum.
c) we follow nacho's plan that have netted us half the scumteam, even me or you individually couldn't hit that score
d) focus away from the distraction that is ooba
e) we have full support of the true town
f) there is no more doubt seeding by any player, town or scum.

[Metal Sonic]

Stop your hero worshiping, it's pathetic.

you'll actually be in my shoes when

a) nacho's list generated the best results that any of us have ever made
b) by sheeping him unconditionally in a past game (he had the help of ffery to conftown him), the entire town won a scummie that I got to wear for an entire year. mollie was sore.
c) i have been accused of gamethrowing twice more often here than I have in normal games, and i even see this myself metacognitively
d) the obvious, blatant and clear execution ooba to sow discord, paranoia and doubt between me and you

[Metal Sonic]

e) i need to fix my teammates games. the team mafia rule "you cant write posts for your teammates" is driving me even more nuts

[ooba]

Ooba, I would rather lynch GreyICE I've decided. The reason, I still don't trust you.

Wgeurts, how many scum bodies do you want me to drop?

This is just the start of my ISO when I replaced in.

Whats my endgame as scum here?
- I come to the thread on D2. Call Nacho town. Shit on my two scum buddies?
- I come in to the game today and do a 1:1 vs someone on the town bloc? I'm not going to survive tomorrow if I'm scum.

Also, when I defended Nacho I was scum with him. When I categorically, have been stating that GreyIce is town, I'm scum with him.

ISO GreyIce, ISO me - it is very clear we have been pushing scum.

Here's my ISO - I stopped at #10 - because it is so clearly WRITTEN IN CAPTIAL LETTERS that I'm town town town.

#5:

“Nacho is town.” “Kagami\Sotty\???\???“

#6:

Nacho-scum would have never pushed Sotty\Kagami\Zar.

#7:

Have you discussed who's scum with Nacho?

#8:

“Nacho and GreyIce are the towniest of town.”
“- Kagami, Sotty, Eddie, Zar literally just lurked out the end of the day
- Kagami used GreyIce suspicion as a crutch to literally comment on nothing else throughout the entire day. “

#9:

“I'm town.

Plus if
a) Either of Nacho or GreyIce are scum
b) If at least one of Sotty or Kagami is NOT scum
I'll stop playing Mafia forever.”

#10:

There's no way I'm for voting or lynching either of these two players. (GreyIce\Nacho) We need scum flips faster. Want to make a reverse deal?

Lynch Sotty today. Should flip scum. If not, lynch Kagami tomorrow. If both flip town, you have my vote for the rest of the game - including a self vote on me.

[ooba]

if greyice is indeed the good scumhunter that he is, and town

then he should invoke that power that his reputation is known for.

this is what the lynch will do for us:

a)

CLEAR ALL PARANOIA, 100%, OF HIS READS.

b) he's going to fuck over the last 2 scum.
c) we follow nacho's plan that have netted us half the scumteam, even me or you individually couldn't hit that score
d) focus away from the distraction that is ooba
e) we have full support of the true town
f) there is no more doubt seeding by any player, town or scum.

When have we heard this fucking logic before?

When Sotty was pushed as an alternative to the Nacho wagon.