8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[ooba]

MS himself agrees that he fought the Nacho list. (Because the evidence is too clear to ignore in his ISO)

Now he's all out for following it again? "Nacho could have been wrong right?" becomes "Nacho is god again"?

Why?

Because the other two names in that list are town.

Grey is Town, Zar is Town.

[ooba]

You seriously think this post came from someone who is scum buddies with Sotty\Kagami?

Want to make a deal on it?
I'll vote whoever you wish for two days if greyICE/Nacho both flip town?

There's no way I'm for voting or lynching either of these two players. We need scum flips faster. Want to make a reverse deal?

Lynch Sotty today. Should flip scum. If not, lynch Kagami tomorrow. If both flip town, you have my vote for the rest of the game - including a self vote on me.

Want to make a deal on it?
I'll vote whoever you wish for two days if greyICE/Nacho both flip town?

You want a real deal?

Vote Sotty today, if he flips town, I'll vote Nacho or whoever the hell you want tomorrow.

[Chances of Wgeurts accepting: 0%]

At some point you've got to look past the paranoia and make a call. Am I scum or am I town?

If I'm scum, vote me.

If I'm town, vote MS.

[wgeurts]

Ooba, everyone knew kagami and sotty lynches were going to happen. Scum team now consists of stronger player's who may have bussed to get to end-game at any cost. One more body should be enough, if we get one more scum body we win.
I'm following nacho's plan for now, so I want Grey to flip.
Tommorow we'll talk, just like ZZZX when kagami needed to flip.
My judgement will be based off what ICE flips,
If she flips town I'll put more trust in you, not full as this is magia but I'll listen and consider your ideas.

[pirate mollie]

pssst. pretty sure my bf can read me!

and no1 better hand me that nonsense about he wldn't vote each other cos nacho and I will each other every single time if we think the other is scum! the only time you shld be worried if we are scum together and well obvsly we are not.

Mollie, if you're town - lets work together.

Vote MS with me. You've already mentioned suspicion about that slot.

I am up to here and yes I will work with you, my whole team thinks grey is scum and metal is like conftown some dumb shit but how he acted when grey and abr were piling on me was skeevy as fuck. and this looks and feels like scum!metal to me. you feel a lot like you did in lost rooms and i wld like a repeat of that especially in team!mafia. I think we can win this. I have had a crazy streak of town wins lately like they have all been like lost rooms even my larges.

still catching up,

[wgeurts]

Ack, ooba.
How is zar town?

I'm lynching ICE today.

How about another deal, you vote ICE today with me. If she flips scum, I continue to lynch Zar.
If she flips town, you gain my vote to use on who you wish tommorow.

Deal?

[wgeurts]

Mollie, we can win this.
Are you town?

[Metal Sonic]

"Nacho is god again"

he just flipped two scum. my trajectory the whole day 1 and 2 was that grey is scum.

your reads are all on the premise that grey is town. that is how you arrive at your conclusion.

my reads are

all

mostly on the premise that grey is scum. that is how i arrive at my conclusion.

you have successfully forced into me that grey is town. i say this because he wont be scum with you. this in itself has already eaten at my previously eroding nacho belief.

Townies on the wagon - THINK!!

you want to THINK? let me show you how to THINK.

sotty and kagami are most expendable and throwable and worst lurky scum goons in the game.

I was townread even higher than nacho in the game.

and you think that me-scum would jeopardise my chances of winning by linking associatives to them? if i were scum i could win the game solo.

YOU THINK.

lets say your theory is true. me and mollie are the last scum, greyice and zar are town.

scum knowing this, would gleefully eat the towncred that came with both sotty and kagami lynches. they would be invincible.

me-scum knowing this, would just slay the scum like I just did, but better, then take the prizes that are grey and zar, then knock off your beautiful list that consisted of zzzx and abr that you lined up.

YOU THINK.

what then?

you can give us the statement that "conf town might be wrong". i should have stuck to my guns and said it was bullshit.

because my definition of conftown included nacho. and myself. and abr. and zzzx.


if scum was in the townblock, there wouldn't be a townblock.

you can shoot me all you want about my clear doubting of nacho's orders. but if you think that is the scum play, YOU THINK.

[Metal Sonic]

pssst. pretty sure my bf can read me!

and no1 better hand me that nonsense about he wldn't vote each other cos nacho and I will each other every single time if we think the other is scum! the only time you shld be worried if we are scum together and well obvsly we are not.

Mollie, if you're town - lets work together.

Vote MS with me. You've already mentioned suspicion about that slot.

I am up to here and yes I will work with you, my whole team thinks grey is scum and metal is like conftown some dumb shit but how he acted when grey and abr were piling on me was skeevy as fuck. and this looks and feels like scum!metal to me. you feel a lot like you did in lost rooms and i wld like a repeat of that especially in team!mafia. I think we can win this. I have had a crazy streak of town wins lately like they have all been like lost rooms even my larges.

still catching up,

you refused to work with me since you replaced in.

you want my head? call greyice to venge you. then you can venge me.

cos i am done with you.

[Metal Sonic]

Let me give you a chance.


When you have time, lay out all reasoning, with evidence and all analysis necessary for all pertinent reads that you have.

this is during your re-read when you were reading me as conftown and I tried you give you a rope.

I reposted it multiple times and stated my intent here.

Let me give you a chance.


When you have time, lay out all reasoning, with evidence and all analysis necessary for all pertinent reads that you have.

ooba! I want to see this from you.

there is barely content to analyze after mid-day-2. (this is a complaint to no body in general!)

even though you were right about nacho town,

you can't be considered clear <------ if you are town you should understand why.



I caught grey's evil thought processes only after forcing him to spell out his reasonings and analysis. Before that he was just within acceptable levels.

I know I just warned you that this is a test! so it might be less reliable because as scum you would be more careful in the reads.

but lets just see if you can even pass the stress test!





I look forward to viewing your insights!

this was before

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Just a random thought: If it is {MS, Mollie, Sotty, Kagami} - it's pretty funny that MS started lisetening\being nice to me only after I made this post.

i have a duty to preserve the legacy of nacho


even if i strongly disagree with them!

Nacho was wrong about all other three names on his list. You'll see why once I show you the light.

so please tell me how my giving you a chance to explain your reads, specifically I was looking for the greyice townread, can be used against me, when you omit my snip-by-snip posts from context

[pirate mollie]

Mollie, we can win this.
Are you town?

yes. and I wanna lynch metal but ugh grey.

I am trying to figure out what happened in the pt (cos something did!) cos kagami said as much and that is why she rolled over the way she just gave up like she did. I have been on a scumteam metal and I felt the same way. but I dunno grey got super personal and if 1 of my scummates got that way I wld definitely have words with them. gut wise I feel like it is more likely to be metal but I am going to have to turn deaf ears to my team and probably will. I wanna see what zzthing says after looking at organic to see if he is sees the same thing that I see.

[wgeurts]

Ok, can we still lynch Grey today and consider Metal tommorow mollie?
I have never played with sonic before this I believe.

[ooba]

Ack, ooba.
How is zar town?

I'm lynching ICE today.

How about another deal, you vote ICE today with me. If she flips scum, I continue to lynch Zar.
If she flips town, you gain my vote to use on who you wish tommorow.

Deal?

Wgeurts, why am I always on the other end of the deals?

Why don't you help me out with a Metal vote today? And if he flips town, I'll give you my vote even to self vote myself tomorrow.

If you had actually gone along with the Sotty deal, Nacho would be alive.
Likewise with the current MS read. His scum flip will clear Grey beyond measure.

[Metal Sonic]

Spoiler: this.

I've read through your entire ISO, ooba, and this is the only evidence I have seen you write for GI-town:

Here are instances where GreyIce is town:
a) I haven't been lynched as town in four years
b) I should stop playing if we don't get at least 2 scum flips in these four people
c) Plus he's been pushing scum all game long

The rest are all very weak "If sotty flips scum, GI is town". That is not reasoning, that is an unsubstantiated statement.


I think that your points for GI-town in the above quote are weak and I think that you know it!

I would really like your clear, genuine and insightful thought process!

Spoiler: before this

i have a duty to preserve the legacy of nacho


even if i strongly disagree with them!

Nacho was wrong about all other three names on his list. You'll see why once I show you the light.

I gave a shit about what you think. because you post so eloquently.

i gave a shit about what mollie thinks, because she was my friend.

i give a shit about what nacho thinks, because he just proved with undeniable evidence that he deserves his two scummies ever since i joined mafiascum.

so. town can be wrong. then scum must be right.

[Metal Sonic]

Wgeurts, why am I always on the other end of the deals?

funny how you ask that.

if you're scum and you successfully get a lynch on me.... even if you die before or after, i'll give you a good rating

if you're town, you are a racist

[ooba]

MS, if I'm wrong about you and you are town, me and my team are willing to take any hit in ratings as applicable.

But I'm not wavering. Because I'm not wrong.

[Metal Sonic]

MS, if I'm wrong about you and you are town, me and my team are willing to take any hit in ratings as applicable.

But I'm not wavering. Because I'm not wrong.

yeah buster i'll get all my teammates to give all your team low ratings if you are the cause of this fuckup

i am the team captain. i am responsible for all my team

[ooba]

MS, if I'm wrong about you and you are town, me and my team are willing to take any hit in ratings as applicable.

But I'm not wavering. Because I'm not wrong.

yeah buster i'll get all my teammates to give all your team low ratings if you are the cause of this fuckup

i am the team captain. i am responsible for all my team

Whatever.

[Metal Sonic]

your words are pretty powerful and it is an admirable trait that you have.

i only have myself to blame for dumbing down my posts for illterates

[wgeurts]

Ooba, I'll agree to that.
VOTE: Metal Sonic
Lets put your skill to the test.

If he flips scum I trust you fully, us two should then form a second town bloc as others I'm all paranoid about.

[Metal Sonic]

The Unviggable Vegetables ActionDan Malakittens Iecerint ooba

i'm at the end of a bad deal all the time

my team is more important than yours

[wgeurts]

Also, if you don't give me your vote tommorow I'll lynch you.
(If he flips town)

[ooba]

Also, if you don't give me your vote tommorow I'll lynch you.
(If he flips town)

You have my word.

If he flips town, my vote is yours.

[Metal Sonic]

Mollie doesn't die.
Ooba doesn't die.
ABR doesn't die.
Metal Sonic doesn't die.
ZZZX doesn't die.

fuck, you're on the list

[wgeurts]

Also, if you don't give me your vote tommorow I'll lynch you.
(If he flips town)

You have my word.

If he flips town, my vote is yours.

Ok,
Now can you walk me through why you and your team is convinced?

[Metal Sonic]

it was moronic as fuck for me to lynch nacho

he was my crutch. he is the only one