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Post Post #5900 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:12 pm

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So he probably isn't lying about his BP status at least.
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Post Post #5901 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:14 pm

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Titus wrote:You weren't attempted to be shot at. The only missing kills were lurking wolves. Masons not being shot at is a red flag to me.

Could've tried to shoot the masons.

Titus wrote:Is it really a coincidence that Lucian, someone hard townreading me, would be shot over Death and Boonskiies, investigators who can generate even more confirmed towns to break this game wide open?

That's not a point against them?

Titus wrote:Doctors who always thought of their survival over House that could generate even more conftowns.

Didn't they say before this post they protected Ozgin D2?

Also, Ozgin/House died D3, so...

P-EDIT: NOw you're being stupid.
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Post Post #5902 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:17 pm

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If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?
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Post Post #5903 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:26 pm

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no one cares

no one is impressed

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Post Post #5904 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:27 pm

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wait it's still TWILIGHT?

what a stupid fucking mechanic

silly mods and their cute ideas

anyway I'm taking over from here. let's call a truce until votes actually count

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Post Post #5905 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:30 pm

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*sshrug* I'll do my VCA and reveal it first thing.
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Post Post #5906 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:31 pm

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Titus wrote:If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?

...If it's a delayed kill, why would it work the day they targeted him?
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Post Post #5907 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:36 pm

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Titus wrote:If it's a delayed nightkill, it shouldn't matter when House died. If he was shot N2 to die D3, then the doc protect should have worked no?

...If it's a delayed kill, why would it work the day they targeted him?

And if the target is submitted at night, but dies at the end of the following day?
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Post Post #5908 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:38 pm

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Titus wrote:And if the target is submitted at night, but dies at the end of the following day?

Is the kill happening that night?
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Post Post #5909 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:39 pm

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To be clear

Submit kill N2, Doc should heal N2, Vic dies at the end of day 3. That's how I've seen a delayed NK work but it's VERY rare so...
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Post Post #5910 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:40 pm

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Unless the doctor specifically protects against the delayed kill, again, why would it save them?
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Post Post #5911 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:44 pm

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Doctors should protect against all kills in a given night. No one's claimed a specific type of doctor. Generally doctors stop all kills unless otherwise specified.
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Post Post #5912 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:49 pm

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Titus wrote:Doctors should protect against all kills in a given night. No one's claimed a specific type of doctor. Generally doctors stop all kills unless otherwise specified.

In a game with lots of kills flying around, this is generally specified.

IME a doctor only stops one kill
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Post Post #5913 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:50 pm

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Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.
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Post Post #5914 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:51 pm

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Titus wrote:To be clear

Submit kill N2, Doc should heal N2, Vic dies at the end of day 3. That's how I've seen a delayed NK work but it's VERY rare so...

in the event of a delayed kill, one generally resolves the kill (and therefore would require a protection) in the phase in which the kill is resolved

this is not true of a poisoner role, but we're not talking about a poisoner

academic setup spec talking out of our ass isn't really doing anyone a lot of good though, so
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Post Post #5915 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:51 pm

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But the werewolves were lurking, so they didn't even submit a kill under any theory.
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Post Post #5916 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:52 pm

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fucking werewolves

waiting for the moon and shit
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Post Post #5917 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:55 pm

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Titus wrote:Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.

At least, that particular person/faction wouldn't. Any other team/3rd party with a kill would.
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Post Post #5918 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:58 pm

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Bulbasaur Commonwealth wrote:
Titus wrote:Arguendo, even if I'm wrong and the mafia team submits a day kill to kill someone at the end of the day, thereby bypassing doctor interference, then the fact that the masons did not flip is even more suspicious as scum would not need to worry about a doctor.

At least, that particular person/faction wouldn't. Any other team/3rd party with a kill would.


Right. Logically though TPTG and TF cannot be werewolves or volcanoes, so that's eliminated. Volcanoes incinerate (which has stopped since the orange flipped), werewolves eviserate, which will stop tonight.

That leaves the day flip.
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Post Post #5919 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:02 pm

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Titus wrote:Volcanoes incinerate (which has stopped since the orange flipped), werewolves eviserate, which will stop tonight.

Though we don't know if it's because they're gone or if their target was protected.

Or if they targeted me for some reason.
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Post Post #5920 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:03 pm

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you do realize that the remaining faction would need to have 3 players, which it probably doesn't, in order for us to be scum

right?

nah probably not, don't think about it too hard though, keep calling the claimed masons scum
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Post Post #5921 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:06 pm

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Yes, the remaining faction is the red, which does the day kill.

@Bulba, yes we do. Use common sense.
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Post Post #5922 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:17 pm

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Those deaths aren't coming back.

The setup is 3/2/2/
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Post Post #5923 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:22 pm

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I'm looking all through the mod's posts and I'm not finding any kind of confirmation on what the alignment distribution is
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Post Post #5924 (ISO) » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:26 pm

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Titus wrote:Those deaths aren't coming back.

The setup is 3/2/2/

Oh? And how do you know that?
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