Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[mastin2]

I come bearing gifts! A readslist, from Kagami! And myrrh and frankincense also!
T S O
DeasVail
GuyInFreezer
Shadoweh
Oversoul
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ActionDan
Gammagooey
mastin2
Marquis
Bulbazak
TellTaleHeart
ChannelDelibird
vezokpiraka
Cheetory6
Aronis
Titus
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Espeonage
singersigner
Untrod Tripod

I am...very, very, very thoroughly unimpressed.
I'm rather willing to trust pie's read now, as if my null on him before wasn't enough.

[mastin2]

Like...Dan has a point.

T S O
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ActionDan (TOP OF SECTION)
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singersigner (SECOND IN SCUM SECTION)

VC 70 (Major Day 1, VC 32)

(8)

ActionDan:

DeasVail, singersigner,

T S O

, Espeonage, Aronis, GuyInFreezer, ChannelDelibird, Titus [L-2]
(4)

singersigner:

Bulbazak, mastin2, Shadoweh, Untrod Tripod

(Gammagooey)

(3)

Espeonage:

vezokpiraka, ActionDan, Cheetory6

TSO's excuse doesn't cut it. If he's not in the game with thoughts of his own, why NOT trust in a teammate who is?

[mastin2]

Regfan

You are breaking our hearts with this tammy fixation.

Not sure whether it'll make the heartbreak better or worse, but it'll be different when you see that he wasn't doing it with a town mindset! (Regfan is singer's team, no?)

Also, ffery, would you endorse a flashwagon on TSO?

[mastin2]

tl;dr for those playing at home:

Basic count on scumreads right now overall would be:

singersigner/DV
DV/singersigner, both tied for strongest scumread.
TSO third, but since the other two are off-limits for today, viable.
Esp is overall I guess the distant fourth candidate, albeit not that great of one.

Any name outside of there I don't think I'm going to support.

[singersigner]

Re: TTH, I figured out what her role probably is. Please stop having this discussion. It's not going to be vig, unless you really think TTH was planning to fakeclaim killing a town Deasvail and then coming in tomorrow holding up his townie corpse with a happy face.

Literally no one is saying that or even suggesting it, wtf?

Preview Edit:
Regfan is dealing with some family stuff right now, but I'll ask him to clarify when he gets back. If I were to answer, I'd probably say it was an excuse to replace out of a scum slot more than anything. We talked about the possibility of a scumTammy preferring to stay in the game because of the satisfaction she'd have of tricking everyone in the end since she's so widely townread, but if it were me, I might take advantage of replacing out after getting to a good "confirmed state" with the game, just so I didn't fuck it up accidentally--it would be worth not having the hyperventilating alone.

Did Regfan seriously say that? That sounds like so much incredible bullshit. Tammy doesn't get satisfaction out of tricking people, she gets guilt trips and spends the entire post game apologizing to peoeple. Her replaace out is quite reminiscent of the game we hydra'd in and she abandoned to let me finish, meanwhile she kept the Cerulean hydra going in Fantasy Camp 2 as scum, forcing herself to hold out. Her history doesn't support your thesis.

No Regfan didn't say that.

I

said, "if

I

were to answer." Geezus shit, how many times have I been accused of not reading thoroughly?

[singersigner]

unvote

[DeasVail]

Ok, I've read up and really I just want a lynch. I still want to vote for AD because I can't think of anyone better to vote for and I don't want to be scrabbling around trying to find a lynch and have it end up being I'd much rather not lynch such as Singer/Espe. I also still don't really see much that's town about him, though I guess my hurried catch-up could have something to do with that and I'll look again. In any case, I wouldn't mind if, you know, we could get that wagon fired up again. I'm really sorry about my lack of involvement lately and I think I'll sort the reads out that I've been putting off after the first lynch (though at the rate things are going it may very well be before).

Ffery, if I could have Nacho's read progression on AD that would be pretty cool, but I understand you guys are busy and so please make this low priority if anything at all.

[singersigner]

Regfan

You are breaking our hearts with this tammy fixation.

Not sure whether it'll make the heartbreak better or worse, but it'll be different when you see that he wasn't doing it with a town mindset! (Regfan is singer's team, no?)

If you're scum I'll understand (hint: we think you're pretty scum!)

If you're town, it's gunna give me such sweet satisfaction to prove how wrong you are.

Either way, I call it a win.

[Untrod Tripod]

Also, ffery, would you endorse a flashwagon on TSO?

ooh ooh! I would!

[Titus]

Mastina, can you link me to Tales since it fuels your scumread? I highly disagree there. I tend to only recall games I have been in. This doesn't look like GundamSeed DeasVail though.

[Titus]

Ok, I've read up and really I just want a lynch. I still want to vote for AD because I can't think of anyone better to vote for and I don't want to be scrabbling around trying to find a lynch and have it end up being I'd much rather not lynch such as Singer/Espe. I also still don't really see much that's town about him, though I guess my hurried catch-up could have something to do with that and I'll look again. In any case, I wouldn't mind if, you know, we could get that wagon fired up again. I'm really sorry about my lack of involvement lately and I think I'll sort the reads out that I've been putting off after the first lynch (though at the rate things are going it may very well be before).

Ffery, if I could have Nacho's read progression on AD that would be pretty cool, but I understand you guys are busy and so please make this low priority if anything at all.

Why are you asking FFery to do something and then saying it doesn't matter if she does it?

[Titus]

Regfan

You are breaking our hearts with this tammy fixation.

Not sure whether it'll make the heartbreak better or worse, but it'll be different when you see that he wasn't doing it with a town mindset! (Regfan is singer's team, no?)

If you're scum I'll understand (hint: we think you're pretty scum!)

If you're town, it's gunna give me such sweet satisfaction to prove how wrong you are.

Either way, I call it a win.

Mastina is not scum. Why does everyone who doubts you wind up in your scumlist?

If you are town and lynched, how can you consider that a win? Doubly so with a team backing you?

[hitogoroshi]

VC 72 (Major Day 1, VC 34)

(6)

ActionDan:

DeasVail, T S O, Espeonage, Aronis, GuyInFreezer, ChannelDelibird,

(Titus, singersigner)

[L-4]
(4)

singersigner:

Bulbazak, mastin2, Shadoweh, Untrod Tripod
(3)

Espeonage:

vezokpiraka, ActionDan, Cheetory6

(Titus)

(1)

Formerfish:

TellTaleHeart
(1)

TellTaleHeart:

Oversoul

(4)

Not Voting:

Formerfish, Gammagooey, Titus, singersigner

(Titus)

With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday, April 25th, at 9PM CST.

Major Day One Deadline

(expired on 2015-04-25 20:00:00)

[vezokpiraka]

Cab we get back to the espe wagon? It's the only wagon I kinda like right now and this game is fucking dragging. We need to do two lynches in 5 days and we don't even have wagons.

[Oversoul]

* Concerned about Oversoul/Tammy because why would Tammy replace out over Esp but not Zar? And why is Oversoul trying to start out with completely fresh reads instead of taking into account Tammy's?

Going to nip this in the bud right here, but no.
I don't have time right now because of finals. But just stop while you're ahead, Westeros.

[Aronis]

Cab we get back to the espe wagon? It's the only wagon I kinda like right now and this game is fucking dragging. We need to do two lynches in 5 days and we don't even have wagons.

How about we compromise? You vote AD and we lynch him, then immediately after that we can lynch esp.

[fferyllt]

We don't support an AD lynch anymore.

I think anyone who'd like to vote TSO should go ahead and do that.

[Oversoul]

Singer, what is your read on Gamma?

[fferyllt]

Also, ffery, would you endorse a flashwagon on TSO?

Yes! Yes we do! Very much so.

[vezokpiraka]

Cab we get back to the espe wagon? It's the only wagon I kinda like right now and this game is fucking dragging. We need to do two lynches in 5 days and we don't even have wagons.

How about we compromise? You vote AD and we lynch him, then immediately after that we can lynch esp.

How about a flash aronis wagon?

Everyone wants this dead.

VOTE: aronis

[Aronis]

Or let's just try as hard as possible to no lynch.

[ActionDan]

Cab we get back to the espe wagon? It's the only wagon I kinda like right now and this game is fucking dragging. We need to do two lynches in 5 days and we don't even have wagons.

How about we compromise? You vote AD and we lynch him, then immediately after that we can lynch esp.

Is there a better reason than pure numbers to demand a compromise via voting me when you have no particular lynch perference and could instead vote espe?

[ActionDan]

Cuts mcgee

[Oversoul]

Cab we get back to the espe wagon? It's the only wagon I kinda like right now and this game is fucking dragging. We need to do two lynches in 5 days and we don't even have wagons.

How about we compromise? You vote AD and we lynch him, then immediately after that we can lynch esp.

How about a flash aronis wagon?

Everyone wants this dead.

VOTE: aronis

Speak for yourself!

[Aronis]

Cab we get back to the espe wagon? It's the only wagon I kinda like right now and this game is fucking dragging. We need to do two lynches in 5 days and we don't even have wagons.

How about we compromise? You vote AD and we lynch him, then immediately after that we can lynch esp.

Is there a better reason than pure numbers to demand a compromise via voting me when you have no particular lynch perference and could instead vote espe?

Nope.