Spoiler: this will probably be long unless i get bored of typing
Post 57 seems like a premonition given that Jackel was mislynched later that day. I can't tell if Oranje was trying to be encouraging or not but in retrospect it seems like Jackel knew his own limits as a player and was just being honest about them.
58 early premonition about vonflare's RVS vote being off. It seems like some people are really good at reading RVS votes. Wish Oranje would hold a class or something.
skipping setuppsec i don't understand and things i don't have anything to say about
615 claims someone hammered but they didn't?
978 what, why? i mean, he was right, but how did he get from the existence of neighbourhoods to chivri is conftown?
1012 he's convinced that boonskiis was town here but i thought he was scumreading him before because of 403 and even in 903 he's still suspicious of boon in the first part of there. oh but he's saying boon townslipped in 532. In hindsight boon was right about everything he said in that post, even down to current people's estimates of 3 people being on scumteams, but I'm not sure why being informed about the setup is a townslip? I'm nullreading boon myself at the moment because i haven't read his ISO closely yet and I haven't really known what to make of the posts of his that I have seen, so i'm curious if oranje still thinks boon townslipped.
1016 is defending vyse(orange)'s inactivity but I don't think he's wrong, because his argument is that vyse wasn't posting anywhere on the site at the time and having a job is not indicative of alignment.
1416, 1418 okay, from the way this question was phrased, and who it was directed at, i'm guessing the answer is no, but i don't know why. I guess I would feel mildly relieved we weren't mislynching me in that situation but i wouldn't know if the other person was also being mislynched or not? i think there's a more obvious conclusion oranje is hoping people will draw from this but I don't know what it is. And in retrospect Oranje seems to have been right about whatever it was because the counterwagon to vonflare's was the wagon of his scumbuddy Vyse.
1522 welcomes Titus and tells her who is town. Of those who have flipped so far he was right about them all.
was wrong about Lihin in 2614. or he may have been right that Lihin was playing badly but Lihin was town nonetheless. i can't tell which but probably the second. Lihin seems to have been a newbie though. I know why sheeping is bad but I think it's a comfortable newbie strategy. "I don't know what i'm doing here but everyone else seems to so i'll just follow along until it makes sense." is the feeling behind it. I have the inclination to do it myself quite a bit but i have to keep reminding myself that the people i'm inclined to sheep might be scum and that I need to learn to form my own opinions.
Oranje, what does fudge mean? You use that word a lot: "fudge vig", "fudge massclaim" "fudge town read" "fudge shoot someone" "fudge confirmable role" "fudge out of hydra" "fudge mods" "fudge votes" "fudge explain" "fudge claim" At first I thought it was a confection and then I thought it was an adjective but now I'm not really sure.
2679 pushing for a massclaim again. he mentioned early he thought there'd probbly be a breaking strategy. maybe right maybe rolefishing i dunno.
bro seems upset that in 2739 that wgeurts claimed so i guess only half the hydra is in favour of this massclaiming stuff.
spends most of day 2 tunnelling lihin.
3437 ahahaha lucian if you're still reading this from the grave i liked your joke
3552 admits was wrong about lihin and points out that others were wrong to sheep him. i dunno i'm wrong a lot too, both when i start a wagon and when i sheep onto one, and he was right about a lot of other people (vonflare, vyse, om, elusive) so. anyway he then spends a while trying to figure out who the scum were on the wagon. i think. but he is right that everyone on a wagon is responsible for their vote, not just the driver.
3777 interesting interaction with vonflare. now that vonflare's flipping it seems oranje was in the right here.
5247 good wall about vonflare, led to lynched scum.
5251 says that elusive is crumpets town. does crumpets mean "not"? because he led a wagon on her right after this. is he using sarcasm here?
5252 scumreading lucian and cerb but they've both flipped green. In 5553 the other head disagrees with pushing lucian.
5567 joined the elusive wagon after deathfisaro's guilty on her.
Switches to peregrinev right after elusive's flip, and then successfully leads the p5 wagon, then asks us all to explain why we joined the wagon. At the time I didn't understand this but after reading about the Lihin wagon it makes sense that he wants to know who was just sheeping.
58 early premonition about vonflare's RVS vote being off. It seems like some people are really good at reading RVS votes. Wish Oranje would hold a class or something.
skipping setuppsec i don't understand and things i don't have anything to say about
615 claims someone hammered but they didn't?
978 what, why? i mean, he was right, but how did he get from the existence of neighbourhoods to chivri is conftown?
1012 he's convinced that boonskiis was town here but i thought he was scumreading him before because of 403 and even in 903 he's still suspicious of boon in the first part of there. oh but he's saying boon townslipped in 532. In hindsight boon was right about everything he said in that post, even down to current people's estimates of 3 people being on scumteams, but I'm not sure why being informed about the setup is a townslip? I'm nullreading boon myself at the moment because i haven't read his ISO closely yet and I haven't really known what to make of the posts of his that I have seen, so i'm curious if oranje still thinks boon townslipped.
1016 is defending vyse(orange)'s inactivity but I don't think he's wrong, because his argument is that vyse wasn't posting anywhere on the site at the time and having a job is not indicative of alignment.
1416, 1418 okay, from the way this question was phrased, and who it was directed at, i'm guessing the answer is no, but i don't know why. I guess I would feel mildly relieved we weren't mislynching me in that situation but i wouldn't know if the other person was also being mislynched or not? i think there's a more obvious conclusion oranje is hoping people will draw from this but I don't know what it is. And in retrospect Oranje seems to have been right about whatever it was because the counterwagon to vonflare's was the wagon of his scumbuddy Vyse.
1522 welcomes Titus and tells her who is town. Of those who have flipped so far he was right about them all.
was wrong about Lihin in 2614. or he may have been right that Lihin was playing badly but Lihin was town nonetheless. i can't tell which but probably the second. Lihin seems to have been a newbie though. I know why sheeping is bad but I think it's a comfortable newbie strategy. "I don't know what i'm doing here but everyone else seems to so i'll just follow along until it makes sense." is the feeling behind it. I have the inclination to do it myself quite a bit but i have to keep reminding myself that the people i'm inclined to sheep might be scum and that I need to learn to form my own opinions.
Oranje, what does fudge mean? You use that word a lot: "fudge vig", "fudge massclaim" "fudge town read" "fudge shoot someone" "fudge confirmable role" "fudge out of hydra" "fudge mods" "fudge votes" "fudge explain" "fudge claim" At first I thought it was a confection and then I thought it was an adjective but now I'm not really sure.
2679 pushing for a massclaim again. he mentioned early he thought there'd probbly be a breaking strategy. maybe right maybe rolefishing i dunno.
bro seems upset that in 2739 that wgeurts claimed so i guess only half the hydra is in favour of this massclaiming stuff.
spends most of day 2 tunnelling lihin.
3437 ahahaha lucian if you're still reading this from the grave i liked your joke
3552 admits was wrong about lihin and points out that others were wrong to sheep him. i dunno i'm wrong a lot too, both when i start a wagon and when i sheep onto one, and he was right about a lot of other people (vonflare, vyse, om, elusive) so. anyway he then spends a while trying to figure out who the scum were on the wagon. i think. but he is right that everyone on a wagon is responsible for their vote, not just the driver.
3777 interesting interaction with vonflare. now that vonflare's flipping it seems oranje was in the right here.
5247 good wall about vonflare, led to lynched scum.
5251 says that elusive is crumpets town. does crumpets mean "not"? because he led a wagon on her right after this. is he using sarcasm here?
5252 scumreading lucian and cerb but they've both flipped green. In 5553 the other head disagrees with pushing lucian.
5567 joined the elusive wagon after deathfisaro's guilty on her.
Switches to peregrinev right after elusive's flip, and then successfully leads the p5 wagon, then asks us all to explain why we joined the wagon. At the time I didn't understand this but after reading about the Lihin wagon it makes sense that he wants to know who was just sheeping.
tl;dr: i liked his ISO. I often didn't understand what he was doing and i'm still missing context on some things, but it seemed liked he knew what he was doing anyway if that makes sense. like he gave reasons that required more understanding of mafia theory than i possess but he often turned out to be correct when he was doing that.
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