Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[Iecerint]

Vote: Cabd

[Iecerint]

If Cabd is town he should take a hiatus from the game.

If he flips scum, the probability that Cephrir is scum is much higher.

Cabd-scum would be consistent with Cephrir taking no action as scum, because Cabd has a confirmed day action, which probably implies he lacks a night action, so he could perform the kill.

Though you'd think they wouldn't have him perform it the night after he was the alternawagon to town. So that's goofy.

[shos]

In games of mafia that are not mountainous, you use night actions to reduce the possibilities of who is scum after night results have been claimed. Or you assess people's reactions after the claim to infer that something might be up. That's not rolefishing.

Further, indicating that someone is rolefishing is the same as indicating that they are scum, since that's an alignment-linked way to characterize the situation.

Yes, it is, because I DO think that Tbone is scum, earlyclaiming for credibility and rolefishing for ceph's role, which is I think quite obvious by now, sadly.

[Magua]

Vote Count 2.6

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

shos (3): T-Bone, Lady Lambdadelta, Rhinox
T-Bone (2): shos, EddieFenix
xRECKONERx (2): Cephrir, TierShift
Cabd (2): xRECKONERx, Iecerint
Cephrir (1): notscience

Not Voting (1): Cabd

V/LA: notscience (April 23rd), EddieFenix (April 25th)

Deadline for Day 2 is Sunday May 3rd, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2015-05-03 18:00:00)

Name	Change	Score
Cabd	-	49
Cephrir	-	47
EddieFenix	-	50
Iecerint	-	50
Lady Lambdadelta	-	51
notscience	-	51
Rhinox	-	47
shos	-	53
T-Bone	-	51
TierShift	-	51
xRECKONERx	-	54

[shos]

lolwut

I'm a leading wagon


whaaaaaaat

[Cephrir]

Also Eddie didn't answer my question so obvious confirm-bias must be scum.

Been busy with school and keep getting buried in fucking work. Don't worry though, I'll be back to bury you though.

V/LA til Saturday the 25th.

We don't notice the difference!

I've been deliberately obfuscating what I do or don't know and what I did or didn't do.

Please only continue to do that if you are scum.

No.

Like, T-Bone could have reasonably come out and said that you didn't target anyone and pushed a lynch on you purely on those grounds.

No he couldn't have. Just because someone tracked me doesn't mean I have to declare to all the world, yes I did or didn't do such and such a thing. I have been going out of my way to accomplish this. Since it's pretty fucking obvious at this point, no, I don't have a night action. Are you happy now?

[Cephrir]

Hey notscience, could you give me a quick summary of what mastin is saying about me? This is kind of important to me so please answer.

[Cephrir]

In fact if you could just transcribe all of her thoughts on the game that would be amazing.

[shos]

Actually if any of you have thoughts to bring in from your teammates, do that. at the moment none of them (I think) are reading this game to deep, I'm trying to read theirs though

[Cephrir]

I've been getting occasional notes but for the most part I think my team have their hands full.

[Rhinox]

Ive elaborated well enough on my NS scumread. You come and say he is town but cannot say why. And everyone calls me bad playerI wish I was scum.

Please do try to explain. I'm really conflicted on NS and egg is trying to convince me NS is scum but he's hopelessly behind atm. He also thinks you're town so..work with me here.

Look I feel like NS is town and I could probably go through his iso and find some of the things that make me feel that way. 2 Major things off the top of my head are the way he went about the previous role claiming and trying to work out a way to determine if anyone was lying, and the situation surrounding his claim and hint at being conditional and the later coming out with the condition later and his interaction with me about it also gives me town vibes. And lots of other little things like I read his posts and just kinda nod and agree and it all looks like he's genuinely trying to determine alignments.

But, convince you? I don't really have any interest in trying to convince you or anyone else right now. For one:

shos (3): T-Bone, Lady Lambdadelta, Rhinox
T-Bone (2): shos, EddieFenixx
RECKONERx (2): Cephrir, TierShift
Cabd (2): xRECKONERx, Iecerint
Cephrir (1): notscience

Not one player is voting ns. why spend effort convincing anyone ns is town, when nobody seems to think ns is scum strongly enough to place a vote. If NS started getting wrung up and I disagreed with the reasoning and what not I would speak out but there is no reason I see to elaborate more than that on a townread right now.

For two I'm not even 100% solid with my read myself. I could be wrong. I could see something later and change my mind. There's a pretty high likelihood I'm currently townreading at least 1 player who is scum. I'm not convinced myself so I'm really not interested in convincing anyone else of a townread I'm not solid in myself.

Can you tell me why egg thinks NS is scum?

----

shos I literally cannot recall a single reason why you think ns is scum. I can't recall a single reason for any of your reads. Your reads seem to change when its convenient for you to change them and when I ask you why you changed you never seem to be able to give me an answer.

[Iecerint]

There was no reason for you to claim not having a night action, just as it was counter-productive to have previously implied you used one last night.

[Iecerint]

I find it frustrating because usually lapses like this (well, some of them) indicate a scum alignment, but it's useless when they're so ubiquitous, let alone intentionally performed.

[Cephrir]

Being cagey isn't implying I have one.

But I guess that level of thinking before speaking is just beyond the level anyone around here can comprehend.

[Cephrir]

And sure there was, it was practically out because everyone has been behaving in an antitown manner.

[Cabd]

Another day of work down, reading.

[Cabd]

So the usual, with a personal insult from iece because my time levels have changed. (Fuck that, I'm under no obligation to take a break from this game just because my time to invest isn't what it was two years ago, and fucking shame on you for saying such)

[shos]

Drunk
Rhioz I think theres eeaallt no reason to NOT explakn why your townreasa are town. So ahat if they arent vited?? What kf you die and they get wagonned tomorrlw??

Cabd what is youd opinion kn the latest T-bone stuff?

[Iecerint]

Cabd, what is your opinion on literally anything?

[Iecerint]

Not counting your reads during N1!

[xRECKONERx]

Hi, guys.

I just started a new job yesterday and it's busting my ass. I will take a look here over the weekend when I'm not so scatter brained and can decompress a little bit. Maybe it'll actually be relaxing!

[notscience]

I will be here tomorrow and sharing mastinreads

[Cephrir]

Currently trying to decide whether I should sit on my ass and let Cabd get lynched for information or actually get my shit together. Honestly not sure which idea is better.

[Cephrir]

Whelp, I read Reck's iso.

I hated the first half of it, but it got better. I still don't feel like I understand the reasons for a lot of his opinions, but it's better than I thought it was going to be. I started multiquoting shit, for no particular reason except to vomit words into the thread I will sum it up:

I was gonna talk about him harping on nothing but Cabd the whole game and how that's not really scumhunting because blah blah multiple scum, his stances on me and thinking he was pressuring me without actually doing anything but sticking his tongue out in my general direction wasn't super appealing, claiming he does things early on & proceeding to not do things all game.... but eeeeeh recent posts have felt kinda genuine and I don't know what else I really expect given the positions present.

[TierShift]

Dodge