8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[wgeurts]

Ooba, if you are supporting the venge support the whole plan.

[ZZZX]

Ooba i thought you were town reading wge

also the only way to handle this game is not to build it up to partners, there are countless ways to interact with partners here which is... hard to take care off to say.

[wgeurts]

Ooba, GreyICE is getting lynched either today or tommorow.
Switching it up shouldn't be too bad.

[ooba]

@Mollie: I am town reading ZZZX. Also ZZZX is easier to write than ZZthing - also the way you write it reminds me of the band.

@ZZZX:
I scum hunt via associatives. It leads to better results.

And yes, I am considering different types of interactions - I’ve even considered the ‘Hail-mary’ bus at 6:2 i.e. bus your partner so hard that you survive 5 continuous lynches and win the game.

I conflicted on wgeurts. He’s been hitting the right notes. But this entire ‘switch it up\survival’ doesn’t gel with me for some reason. And his plan was also dangerous since it kept me alive till LyLo in the event of a MS mislynch.

@Wgeurts
Exactly GI is getting lynched on your venge today or tomorrow so switching it up shouldn't matter. But your every post makes me think it matters to you.

[wgeurts]

It does.
As I'm town.
And GreyICE likely isn't.
So even if I'm getting lynched I see it as my job to try and help the town to the last breath.

[ZZZX]

@Mollie: I am town reading ZZZX. Also ZZZX is easier to write than ZZthing - also the way you write it reminds me of the band.

@ZZZX:
I scum hunt via associatives. It leads to better results.

And yes, I am considering different types of interactions - I’ve even considered the ‘Hail-mary’ bus at 6:2 i.e. bus your partner so hard that you survive 5 continuous lynches and win the game.

I conflicted on wgeurts. He’s been hitting the right notes. But this entire ‘switch it up\survival’ doesn’t gel with me for some reason. And his plan was also dangerous since it kept me alive till LyLo in the event of a MS mislynch.

@Wgeurts
Exactly GI is getting lynched on your venge today or tomorrow so switching it up shouldn't matter. But your every post makes me think it matters to you.

guess every person does his scumhunting his own way.

btw thoughts on me vs grey? which one is scum if there was a scum between us?

[ooba]

btw thoughts on me vs grey? which one is scum if there was a scum between us?

I've got that fight down as a TvT. In the hypothetical realm, I'd lean towards Grey being scum over you.

Also, ActionDan and me are discussing something in the team PT. Will keep you updated.

[ooba]

Unvote

...for now

[quadz08]

VOTECOUNT 5.9

GreyICE (3) - ZZZX, wgeurts, Pirate Mollie
wgeurts (3) - Metal Sonic, Alchemist, Zar
ZZZX (1) - GreyICE

Not Voting (1) - Ooba

With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 4/28 at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2015-04-28 18:00:00).

[Metal Sonic]

for the record I discuss reads quite often with my teammates

please notice that flipped scum have not yet shown evidence of teammate interaction. I have given my theory as to why earlier

Also, ActionDan and me are discussing something in the team PT. Will keep you updated.

Oh, only NOW AD pops in.

Fine fine, go on go on.... discussion is good

im here now

longpost is going to be served

[ooba]

MS, you have a very incorrect view of the game state if you think scum-me is going to be influenced by that statement you made. In fact, I would have avoided it altogether - just so you couldn't make that point!

ActionDan popped in and said he recommends not voting wgeurts for any reason and that he has that slot as strong town even above ZZZX-town.

I want to figure out where he's coming from - and don't want anyone hammering till I've relayed what he's got to say.

[Metal Sonic]

i had to read the GI vs zzzx thing 3 times over. what the fuck. posting opinions in a separate post. just stuff I wanted to respond to here

You like plans. You stuck it in your avatar.

i think im spoiling the mood here but this quote is hilarious

http://poanon.forumotion.com/t13-jungle ... -game-over

(anon game)

I was mike

look at day 2

THIS IS EXACTLY IT AGAIN XD

Everyone read the game i linked and lookat grey's defence vs who i was playing against at day 2, EXACTLY the same. ignoring and misrep and doing all the shitty stuff. @METAL I dont think you need me to explain that game since we both played it.

Oh yeah. That game is like 2-3 years old. I was the guy who got mislynched D-1 and caught 2/3 of the scumteam when I was panicking at L-1. Nobody believed me so scum won. I've gotten better.

there is no reason for town you not to self vote if I was scum and you were town.

please tell wgeurts

LLD always says that the best way to win when you play scum is to demotivate the town. Make them feel like shit.

ooba did it to me

I don't remember you being very vocal about Sotty Scum? In fact, weren't you scumreading GreyICE for the Sotty scumread?

I don't think you remember much about anything in the game sir.

I was one of the strongest Sotty pushers Day 1 and I actually had GI as town early. But like 3 people (Sottigami + Eddie) were scumreading GI so I tried to figure out where they were coming from. 556 got me suspicious about Grey because he was making ABR do the heavy lifting of Sotty wagon rather than something he was sure about. Then Grey refused to respond to my "Please explain nicely to {the town that are not voting Sotty} why Sotty is scum" so we can get her head rolled over. So I thought that they were soft bussing. 608 is detailed.

So yeah, pretty vocal.


also, I can't believe all that was ONLY a week ago. It felt like months.

[Metal Sonic]

Willing to vote him if someone explains why the hell I'm voting him.
Paraphrasing isn't that hard either MS, ABR's literally stated he simpy doesn't want to relay titus thoughts. He's lucky his other posts are town as fudge as I'd otherwise possibly call out that he's got no reasoning in his team thread to give.

Also, metal sonic: we are town.

we

who is the "we"?

I think you can be in the town for now but not in the town block. so ok. we will leave it like that for now.

we

who is the "we"?

I think you can be in the town for now but not in the town block. so ok. we will leave it like that for now.

I would say the same about you however the town bloc is a group of players that trust fully that they are town and vote together. Me, you, ZZZX and ABR are almost globally town read so it should be us that form a town bloc. No matter what we think of one another.

Me

, you, ZZZX and ABR are

almost globally town read

so it should be us that form a town bloc.

That is a lie. Do not lie. You are not "almost globally town read". The town bloc is only ZZZX, Me, and ABR.

Let me give you an example. ABR has you in the scumpile. I have you in the town-no-townbloc pile. ZZZX too.

So no. Don't try to fit yourself in. I don't like how Nacho tries to fit you in too.

[Metal Sonic]

ActionDan popped in and said he recommends not voting wgeurts for any reason and that he has that slot as strong town even above ZZZX-town.

seems nice

my team has all different answers for the partner but all of them have a consensus that wgeurts is scum.

i found a couple of survivalism tidbits that I bet you guys missed


ugh misposted^

[wgeurts]

Metal vote ICE

[Metal Sonic]

Metal, why don't you regard me as part of the town bloc?
If you think I'm town, as does ZZZX and most players.

town but not 95%+ sure = not in the townblock

i'm sure that zzzx and abr agreed!

[Metal Sonic]

Metal vote ICE

hi

do you remember what you said to me when you wanted to mislynch me?

[Metal Sonic]

10 minutes, no answer?

let me refresh your memory

So if we lynch

MS

wgeurts

and it's wrong we can lynch GreyICE using

ooba's

ZZZX's

vote. Why isn't this a good idea?

fuck you.

[ooba]

LLD always says that the best way to win when you play scum is to demotivate the town. Make them feel like shit.

ooba did it to me

Lol. Now compare how it'll be like if you replace in - have a VERY STRONG town read and he proceeds to get mislynched on D2 when you also think you have an easy scum lynch on hand.

also, I can't believe all that was ONLY a week ago. It felt like months.

This we can agree on.

[Metal Sonic]

Lol. Now compare how it'll be like if you replace in - have a VERY STRONG town read and he proceeds to get mislynched on D2 when you also think you have an easy scum lynch on hand.

ok shos was already negging me in the team thread but thanks.


we still got this.

[ooba]

ActionDan said he hasn't been keeping up but had a very strong town read at about page 30.

He said he expects him-town would want to survive too.

But I've asked him to check recent posts because I really want to vote wgeurts.

[pirate mollie]

I am not lynching wguerts ever. I reread some of his posts and no way does scum run around asking how they shld act.

why is there such resistance to a grey lynch?

also I am thoroughly not enjoying this game. I wish I never wld have replaced who and I wish I never wld have swapped into this game.

[pirate mollie]

altho I did enjoy that 1 comment from ooba about my nicknamr for zzthing reminding him of zztop

[wgeurts]

Also, ooba.
If you think MS is scum, why are you touching a wagon he's on?

[Metal Sonic]

I got distracted. Too much time thinking and that gives me less time for writing.

Just as well, because nobody actually reads my long posts anyway.

Firstly, I want to sort ooba out. both shos and vezok have mentioned that ooba is town so what the fuck. i'm posting my team's thoughts in a separate post, or if i have run out of time, then tomorrow if wgeurts doesn't get hammered overnight.



this is a small diagram I made for my teammates with regard to my thoughts on the current gamestate and that

What the hell is my endgame as scum here in a 6:2?
- I've also said I'll kill myself if MS flips town.
- I'm also willing to lynch myself if MS flips the next day

ooba keeps asking about "what is my scum motivation for fighting MS" and it is true that if I flip town today then it is unprofitable for ooba.

but I failed to consider that a scum-ooba plan could factor in that "MS will fight his lynch and he will not be lynched today" -- this has a lot of implications that will benefit ooba scum such as an easy target to focus on, tunnelling, an easy lynch at lylo (the most crucial period if he survives), et cetera

but it takes a lot of mental acrobatics for me to reach this conclusion so I am going to give ooba the benefit of the doubt

Occam's razor says that Ooba isn't scum.