We are NOT going to waste our second lynch on another person like TSO. This means that Aronis is off the table for lynch today.
The only people that we should be discussing for lynch are ActionDan, Espeonage, Singersigner, Titus, and Untrod Tripod.
This means that all vanity votes on individuals other than the ones listed above should be consolidated onto those lynch candidates. AD, Espeonage, and Singer all had substantial wagons on them during the course of the day. The way the TSO wagon formed makes me think that one of these people is scum given the quickness and ease compared to the resistance on these main three. Titus is on the list because she is currently the largest wagon and I think there is a healthy amount of discussion right now concerning her alignment. I personally have a town read on Titus, but I think her posts are approaching levels of negative utility. Plus, Titus has a certain quality of inscrutability that makes me feel that I can never accurately read her. UT is on this list because of selfish reasons. But seriously, UT is scum and everyone should be voting him.---
↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:bro I think I've more than proven that I'm willing to throw my vote around
your reasoning is bad and you should feel bad
whatevs though, time is short and etc.
vote singer
That is not what my post said. Did you ignore parts of my post? I do not understand how you came to this conclusion given what I actually said in the post. My scum read on you is not because at the time you were not voting. It is your passive, reactive play. You are not actively scumhunting or earnestly trying to figure out the game. When I called you out, you had scum reads on both Singer and Espeonage who had viable wagons, yet you were not voting either of them. You were not actually trying to get them lynched, you were talking and making reads for the sake of talking and having reads. There is a difference.
This post is a perfect example of your passive and reactive play. You did not actually vote a wagon on your scum read until I called you out.
Also, I think you are contradicting yourself.
↑ Untrod Tripod wrote:↑ Oversoul wrote:Which is it? An accurate example of your play in general? Or not?
While we're at it. Who are you scum reading?
What is the difference between your town play and your scum play if you are so aware of what is a "bad" example of your scum game? (which is also by your own admission your town game)
a post-restriction game where I replaced into essentially a doomed scumslot late in the game is going to be pretty different from one where I actually got to shape the slot the way I ordinarily would?
is that not patently obvious to you?
You are saying "Uncouth is a bad example of my scumplay" and "I play every game the same way". This is contradictory. By your own admission, you play every game the same way, regardless of alignment. ANY example of ANY of your play would then reflect on play. Sure, you could say that this is null, but what you are saying right now appears to me that there IS a difference between 1) your scum play, or else why try to fight on this point and 2) your play across alignments, again, why else would you try to fight this point.
More votes on UT, please.
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↑ Oversoul wrote:Gamma/ffery or whoever asked, I am starting from my own reads
I have finals today through next week which is why I am being very absent
I do think Singer is town and wonder why so many people think otherwise given Empire and Singer's posts.
Still haven't read Espeonage but feel less inclined to go there over my initial gut scum reads
ActionDan, is this the comment you're referring to? This is the comment that you are asking "Why"?
I didn't answer your why question because I don't think I ever said I had a gut scum read on Espeonage, or at least I can't remember it now and I can't find it in my ISO either. What I am trying to communicate with that bolded comment is that I don't have a read on Espeonage and I would rather go with a wagon where I at least have some basis for a read (my initial gut scum reads). Espeonage has lived comfortably in null land in my perspective of this game. He is a blind spot that I still have not been able to properly address.
I asked in general (from a theoretical perspective) if the move from gut scum read to disliking the wagon would *necessarily* be bad a thing because I don't think I actually did what you think I did in that post. Clearly something about that transition is causing you concern - what is it?
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I'm working on a bigger post analyzing the components of the TSO wagon, but it is going to take a substantial amount of work and I probably should have allotted myself more than 24 hours to complete it because I don't actually think I am going to be able to finish it in time.
) so that I could use it in a future game instead, but basically, I knew that if I did well as scum in THIS game, if I brought my A-game, then I wouldn't just be showing off to the members of this game--I'd be demonstrating, proudly, for the first time in a full year, the full extent of my scumgame...to the ENTIRETY of mafiascum, effectively: I'd have fooled not 16 players, but 64, almost all of them being big-name players.
to me.