Open 589: Duck Duck Goose (Game Over: Somebody Won)

[ChriVi]

The answer to your question is just 2 clicks away from you.

However, you made a slight mistake.
Your latest posts would make sense if you would consider me newbie town.
However, you vote me as scum at the same time.
I will never believe someone with the MS experience will be that dumb. Thus, the only sane explanation is you're scum.

VOTE: ChriVi

This had to be done ages ago. Jump the wagon, lynch the last scum.

You call this an actual case?

I didn't "make a slight mistake", I was slinging insults back at you because it seemed like that's how you enjoy playing the game, based on your playstyle. Why do my latest posts only make sense if I consider you newbie town? I can't sling insults at shitscum?

Also, your last line before voting me was the exact same thing I had said seriously. Nice job being hypocritical, moron.

[GreyICE]

I mean strictly from voting, ChriVi is the only person in the town who was on neither wagon. So yeah, the idea of him surviving to LyLo is ludicrous.

PEdit: Liking this Taly. I know this means little here, because there's still WIFOM on my alignment, but it's fun to see a townie come along like this.

them*

and no. Scum is always very likely to leave useless, quiet town alive because they're easy to lynch. They wanna NK the people that are obvtown.

If you're town, the scum would never in a million billion years shoot you. The reason you'd be dead long before LyLo have literally nothing to do with a night kill.

[GreyICE]

Oh fuck this. In the off case Netherspite is town, he's been a pleasant, interesting person to play with who has remained engaged with the game. If both ChriVi and Netherspite are town, I know 110% whose thoughts I'm interested in hearing tomorrow. All ChriVi would say is "it must be pisskop you morons, you're so fucking stupid you all suck let me wave my dick around and sling poo"

Vote: ChriVi

[ChriVi]

Oh fuck this. In the off case Netherspite is town, he's been a pleasant, interesting person to play with who has remained engaged with the game. If both ChriVi and Netherspite are town, I know 110% whose thoughts I'm interested in hearing tomorrow. All ChriVi would say is "it must be pisskop you morons, you're so fucking stupid you all suck let me wave my dick around and sling poo"

Vote: ChriVi

Am I literally going to be mislynched by shittown again

Like what

Do you guys have like a group of badtown players to gang up and mislynch me every game or? This is the first game in a while I've survived several days because I thought town wasn't totally stupid in this game

Maybe I was wrong?

[ChriVi]

And yeah it's probably nethersprite or Pisskop, in that order.

[GreyICE]

Have you ever heard the saying "The common denominator in all your failed relationships is you"?

I have not met a more thoroughly dislikeable and despicable person since we banned Norman.

[pisskop]

Its dave/nether.

Stop townreading scum

[GreyICE]

Pisskop, it's not a townread on Nether. It's an "If he is town I'm much more interested in his thoughts than the thoughts of the insult-spewing hydra that has managed to avoid

every single scum wagon

"

He voted Kaboose in RVS:

VOTE: Kaboose

I know literally none of you

We have literal blatant fucking lies:

Also GreyICE, I didn't see vett as scum before flip but if you ISO me I've been in support of lynching him for most of the game.

ifkr Vett is obvtown get off of him you dipshits

And we have an endless stream of posts like this:

WHICH WAS WHY I SAID "IF THERE'S A SCUM I'M NOT ACCOUNTING FOR SOMEHOW", YOU IMBECILE.

I can't stand to listen to the mindless froth spewing from your shitty mouth hole any longer.

Lets lynch the foul-mouthed liar today.

[pisskop]

Sorry. Was @ Chrivi. I still think its town.

[GreyICE]

Lying for townreads.

God. Fucking. Damn. It.

Swear to me that whatever else happens that the lying hydra gets lynched before LyLo. If nothing else even if he's town, given his track record, there's a 100% chance for a town vote.

Vote: Netherspite

[pisskop]

I dont want them in lylo either.

[Taly]

OK, I know you guys are towning at the moment. But, what gives you guys the impression that we are going to be in lylo in this game?

If I'm not mistaking, there are 8 town, and 1 scum. Unless this town is becoming highly dysfunctional, I think we're a better than average town, considering we lynched 2 scum in a row, and have yet to lynch a townie. Instead of quicklynching the 2 people who seem like they WANT the rope right now, we should be referencing D1 shit. It's obviously relevant. We shouldn't ignore oddmusics/gribs NK either.

Speaking of referencing to D1, where the hell is ploben? He dropped off as being a serious poster from D1. This irks me because in D1 he seemed to be putting me as a high suspect near the end of it... But then mafia IS killed, and then we don't see much from him in D2?

Well poop. I had him as newbie town.

Dropping this here, will be back later. Honey Bee is stupidly confirmed town, by the by.

People on Vett and Kaboose:

Honey bee

Vett Only:

GreyICE, Netherspite,

oddmusic,

ploben

Kaboose Only:

talah, , Taly, Pisskop, davesaz

Neither:

Netherspite, ChriVi,

Honey Bee stupidly confirmed town or bussed both scum partners?

This is his only post today? We all know Honey Bee isn't confirmed town, so why are you adding that as a suggestion to Grey? Plus, WHY are you giving the idea that HB is bussing both scum partners? It's possible, but why is THIS the ONLY thing you've said has caught my attention the past 30 pages?

I smell null-lurker. Do you have something to say for yourself? What are your reads?

Plus ChriVi, you never gave me that 2 paragraph post of content I asked you, nor did you acknowledge it. Please try.

Also Nether - I still am not very convinced of your read on Pisskop. Why do you go to the assumption that he jumped on another wagon to save himself? He wanted reasons to jump on the Kaboose wagon, is it scummy for him to have not stuck to my wagon?

Another thing - HB, - I get the impression that there are quite a few strong town reads on you, so you may feel like you're a target. What about Dave overall has given you a scummy vibe? If you consider him scum?

Plus, who do you think the final scum might be?

[Honey bee]

Same things we've mentioned were scummy about him yesterday, plus his votes at deadline were either in the wrong place or at the wrong time. But I'm still sorting out my feelings and want to hear some other stuff before I speak up about my reads. So u get a raincheck on that last question.

[ChriVi]

Pisskop, it's not a townread on Nether. It's an "If he is town I'm much more interested in his thoughts than the thoughts of the insult-spewing hydra that has managed to avoid

every single scum wagon

"

He voted Kaboose in RVS:

VOTE: Kaboose

I know literally none of you

We have literal blatant fucking lies:

Also GreyICE, I didn't see vett as scum before flip but if you ISO me I've been in support of lynching him for most of the game.

ifkr Vett is obvtown get off of him you dipshits

And we have an endless stream of posts like this:

WHICH WAS WHY I SAID "IF THERE'S A SCUM I'M NOT ACCOUNTING FOR SOMEHOW", YOU IMBECILE.

I can't stand to listen to the mindless froth spewing from your shitty mouth hole any longer.

Lets lynch the foul-mouthed liar today.

Quote my lies. The things you quoted aren't lies? I've been in support of lynching kaboose most of the game. I thought Vett was town. I stated both of those things in 1574. You have shown nowhere that I have contradicted that.

How is it my fault that nether was claiming that I didn't know how many scum there are (and how would not knowing how many scum are left make me scum)?

[ChriVi]

Taly, I never saw your request for some 2 paragraph bullshit. Did you have any important questions or was it more of a "Um, I want you to like, write two paragraphs about the game or else your scum. lol"

[ChriVi]

Also Taly please carry us because GreyICE and Nether have spikey bonesticks stuck up their ass

[ChriVi]

Honeybee help taly carry us kthx

[Netherspite]

@Taly

Being horribly wrong is good enough reason to change the focus completely for me.

oddmusic

got shot because he was unlikely to be armed 2night imo.
He did nothig important and in no way could be a threat.
The only other option is scum had previous experience with

Grib

and was expecting him to catch this specific scum very fast.

[Netherspite]

Oh crap just realized I've answered to previous page and missed this one completely.

@ChriVi

I'm going to ignore you for the rest of the game because talking to you ruins the last rule of every game at MS: having fun. I don't find it fun to talk with someone as uselessly aggressive and bad mannered as you.
This does not mean I'll stop voting you though.
Using your mask of aggression and wagonhopping is definitely a nice scum strategy ("Hey, guys, look at my meta, I'm always like that when I'm town so I'm town"). No. It does not make you town.

@Taly

Well you can be not convinced by my reason to change my read on

pisskop

but I'm being honest here (like always). When he switched to

Kaboose

and refused to assist me in voting you when

GreyICE

jumped on your wagon it struck to me as contrived actions. As someone who just does what he does to bus his partner instead of genuinely building a read. I didn't see a reason for him to change his read. That's it.

@GreyICE

I am fine with me being first as long as you won't let

ChriVi

survive till LyLo.
I don't like to increase my "lynched" counter on the wiki page but I realize why I'm getting it and it was solely my fault.

[Honey bee]

Honeybee help taly carry us kthx

i'm workin on it :p
My townread on you hasn't disappeared from yesterday if you're wondering.

vettrock was obviously getting lynched. He slipped too hard. Bussing & distancing was best possible strategy.
Especially bussing in such a vague way like you pointed out (to unvote and revote just in time to not make oddmusic a leading wagon).

Talk about this nether please.

[Netherspite]

@Honey bee

What you want me to clarify?
I thought it's pretty obvious what did I mean there.
If I were scum I'd bus

vettrock

D1.
I wouldn't do it in such indirect way so if

Taly

is scum he did really well. I don't think he is scum at this point anymore though.

[Honey bee]

I'm waiting for you to rationalize that statement with the rest of your play. Also to explain what you think "busing" is and why scum do it.

[Taly]

Taly, I never saw your request for some 2 paragraph bullshit. Did you have any important questions or was it more of a "Um, I want you to like, write two paragraphs about the game or else your scum. lol"

It was at the end of post 1596. To be honest, I'm not feeling a lynch on you right now, that's mostly because I see the same chance as you being scum, as you being town - and I haven't seen any major slips to suggest you're scum other than people getting pissy with you. I asked to see if you'd provide some content when pressed by a more 'positive' force in the game.

Basically, I want to hear your opinion on people here, and the current situation we are in. Reads, comments on the wagon, anything that will help me determine somewhat of a more clear read on you. That's why I asked for the post of content. If you denied or tried to start shit with me, I wouldn't have thought you were scum right off the bat - but it seriously wouldn't have helped you, me, or anyone else here.

Also Taly please carry us because GreyICE and Nether have spikey bonesticks stuck up their ass

Honeybee help taly carry us kthx

I find it interesting that Grey is being worked over by the circumstances so far. If he's scum, then he has probably been caught my someone at this point. If he's town, then he is probably feeling like a huge target for the scum somehow. I also think he wants to make the right choice and not fuck up - but town needs to get their shit together to find the last scum, not dabble with people who seem dislikeable.

Nether just seems like he is trying to fix something. As well as getting out of the main limelight, I think his suicidal gameplay has toned down in his recent posts.

Wow ChriVi, you trust me as town this much to help carry you guys with HB? <3<3<3<3

@Taly

Well you can be not convinced by my reason to change my read on

pisskop

but I'm being honest here (like always). When he switched to

Kaboose

and refused to assist me in voting you when

GreyICE

jumped on your wagon it struck to me as contrived actions. As someone who just does what he does to bus his partner instead of genuinely building a read. I didn't see a reason for him to change his read. That's it.

Alright, alright. I know you're most likely being honest. It just struck me as weird.

However, how has Kabooses flip impacted your read on me? Like, what way?
Also
How did it make you swich your focus to pisskop, someone you townread?

Honeybee help taly carry us kthx

i'm workin on it :p
My townread on you hasn't disappeared from yesterday if you're wondering.

I mean, I'm wishy-washy on ChriVi but they seem more like town trying to piss other townies off over meta. I think they're scumplay would be considerably more tactful, or at least - more constructive. Still not sure yet.

I feel like both you and ChriVi are coordinating me to push the game forward? lol, What are you guys' reads on me? How strong are they?

Also HB, I read the reply. I'll probably ISO Dave, and then wait to hear what else you'd have to say later.

[Netherspite]

@Honey bee

I don't see how that statement contradicts the rest of my play.
I'm just saying what I think about bussing

vettrock

.
Under "bussing" I mean helping his lynch in any way. Doing that subtly like

Taly

did would be awesome as a scum tactic because no one will see it as scummy move ("If he is scum he'd bus more obviously to get towncred").

@Taly

Kaboose

's flip didn't affect my read on you strongly.
It did affect my read on

pisskop

much though. As I've explained, I find his switch to him to be looking like scum deciding that his partner is already doomed and there's no point in trying to save him rather than like town who genuinely came to that decision.
You may disagree that the switch from you to a scum was scummy since you're a bit biased because if you're town you're 100% townie for yourself. However try to look at it from the side PoV and you'll notice that too.
And since there is only one scum left, if

pisskop

is scum then you obviously can't be. That's why I stopped scumreading you.
After that

ChriVi

scumslipped and I decided that it's they who are the last scum, not

pisskop

(not completely discarding the possibility of

pisskop

being scum though, it's possible in case

ChriVi

are dumb enough to post what they did).

[talah]

Nether, is Taly town to you now based purely on Kaboose's flip?

Yes. I was hardly tunneling the wrong slot because I didn't want to flip empty slot.

Why wait till now to clarify that it was your change in perspective on pisskop that removed your Taly scumread?