League of Legends (Old)

[GreyICE]

Sorc, Rod, Seraphs, Righteous, and 2 of Void/SV/Banshees/Glacial/Randuins I'd think.

Glacial on its own is just good on Ryze, and you can build it into IBG late game. How often do you item cap anyway?

You could even use that build to go 0/21/9 which would make him absurdly tanky. That being said, it wouldn't overly surprise me if the CDR dropped to 20%. They're looking to free up his extremely limited itemization choices, not make CDR worthless for him.

[animorpherv1]

Ryze re-work in PBE

I think these would be pretty major buffs to Ryze if they go through. I mean,

30% c/d

on a rank 3 ult (assumed 10%/20%/30% per rank) means that you just need lucidity boots or one 10% c/d item and the rest can be mana/AP/mpen. It seems like it's all about rewarding you for constantly and consistently getting off his spells.

The issue is that the mana-tank items he likes to buy already give CDR.

Frozen Heart is still cost efficient on Ryze even if you overcap on CDR, I believe.

[Voidedmafia]

Welp, here goes my first placement game as mid Xerath.

[Voidedmafia]

...That was disappointing.

Although, the guy I played had a far better Brand. *shrug*

[Voidedmafia]

2nd game as Graves went better (insofar as we won that game). Hilarious note: 4 of the 5 people from last game were on the same team. Heh.

I think I was out of position one too many times, but we pulled off a when with a teamfight while morg was away, so cool beans.

[Gendaberry]

I really hate how if the enemy team picks Nunu you're pretty much forced into picking Jinx. Jinx/Nunu is probably one of the dumbest things in the game, and unless the Jinx straight up feeds in lane it's a nightmare to win against while also being really easy to pull off.

[Voidedmafia]

Game 1/10
Game 2/10

Game 3 just finished. Zed went off, nuff said. I feel like I did better, though I think my CS is atrocious.

[Voidedmafia]

3-2 now. Game four was up against an AP ez whose W did far too much damage than I expected it to. Also, Taric kept trying to build armor even though he clearly needed some kind of MR (I'm aware he scales off armor, but he could've tried to buy some MR items or something)

Game 5 that I just finished was a complete stomp, mainly because they went garen/Nasus top, Kass mid, and cait/sona bot. Our ww jung early solo'd dragon, and was pretty present on the map to snowball lanes. I only wish I had better Xerath ults...

[PJ.]

I really hate how if the enemy team picks Nunu you're pretty much forced into picking Jinx. Jinx/Nunu is probably one of the dumbest things in the game, and unless the Jinx straight up feeds in lane it's a nightmare to win against while also being really easy to pull off.

What makes it dumber than Nunu/Cait?

[Voidedmafia]

I'd assume stacking of Jinx's AA steroid on her Q, plus her speed boost thanks to passive?

[Gendaberry]

I really hate how if the enemy team picks Nunu you're pretty much forced into picking Jinx. Jinx/Nunu is probably one of the dumbest things in the game, and unless the Jinx straight up feeds in lane it's a nightmare to win against while also being really easy to pull off.

What makes it dumber than Nunu/Cait?

Jinx snowballs in fights MUCH harder then Cait does. Even without Nunu, Jinx has extremely high damage and snowballs like mad in fights thanks to her passive. When you add Nunu on top of it, there's very little you can do in fights if the Jinx knows what she's doing. Her already high damage becomes even stronger and her passive + blood boil means that if a single person makes a mistake and dies, she just runs you down and kills your team with crazy movespeed and damage. There's really not much you can do to stop Jinx after she gets that first kill or assist, and Nunu peel makes it hard to kill her before that happens.

That and Nunu lets her take objectives even faster then she normally does which is pretty annoying considering that she already takes them extremely quickly.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So with a combination of thread suggestions and my own personal preference I'm maining these 5 champs for the foreseeable future:

Olaf

Urgot, Ahri, Skarner, Kalista,

bard

Velkoz

??? where karthus???

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Speaking of Karthus holy molly ranked games have gotten so boring lately because I literally win almost every match up as karthus :/ (except for katarina i just ban/ask for ban on that broken hero every game)

Like no matter if they fp mid, or I do and they try to counter or whatever, I am getting almost 0 challenge >_>

Something like 14-3 with karthus past 7-10 days or so (2 losses to leblanc, one to cokri which I was managing to carry pretty hard but still lost).

It's pretty sad because I seriously can't take any other champ to ranked because I am complete trash with anything else (i am slighly decent on trynd/nasus/nunu/pre-nerf blitz - very basic champions)

[mykonian]

no shit, you have by far the most experience on it. Either you spam another champ you like and get decent on it, or you find champions that have overlap with your skillset you use for karthus that appear in other lanes. It's not a coincidence that my succesful champs over the years have similar basic skills that they need/use (of which one was karthus, but I played him for different reasons than you do, and as such, was way worse at it).

The big advantage you have is that after a couple of normals on said champ you pick (and I don't know enough of how you play karth to advice you on that), you get to dive into ranked and get practice on a high level. You get better, quick, even if you lose the first couple of games, simply because you get to learn your champ while playing against good players who punish your mistakes quickly.

[animorpherv1]

May I suggest this, SAD?

[animorpherv1]

Also, I'm so sick of every god damnsoloq game I play having afks and trolls. I

wish

I was being sarcastic and the number was lower than that.

I legit cannot climb because my performance does not matter, and I have no idea what to do anymore.

[hitogoroshi]

the presence of someone doing worse than you doesn't mean your performance doesn't matter. I've won 4v5's as the 4 and lost them as the 5 in ranked games. that's just a pyschological dodge people like to do where they think "if I'm not the MOST responsible for this loss, I'm not responsible at all!". It's also dumb and wrong.

your warding is pretty bad. that's a good next step to work on.

[animorpherv1]

the presence of someone doing worse than you doesn't mean your performance doesn't matter. I've won 4v5's as the 4 and lost them as the 5 in ranked games. that's just a pyschological dodge people like to do where they think "if I'm not the MOST responsible for this loss, I'm not responsible at all!". It's also dumb and wrong.

your warding is pretty bad. that's a good next step to work on.

The last game had

3

afks. The last non-group game before that had our top laner running into other lanes and giving away kills after he got ganked ONCE, feeding everyone.

Explain to me how I can win those.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Honestly it has become much harder to win 4v5 in S5/4. I used to see it all the time in S3/late S2.

I still vividly remember one game where I think I carried with Kassadin 3v5 back when he was super broken.

Also, AP Varus is a lot similar to Karthus, and he's super fun too! It's too bad I don't know how viable he is in ranked. Plus teammates think it's a troll pick :/

Also I tried to reddit thread you linked Ani. I got Janna, Teemo, and Master Yi lol

Edit: Also pre-reworked mid Soraka was by far the most similar to Karthus, which might be the reason I did so well on her (even better than would be expected due to the fact she was somewhat broken and easy to play)

[hitogoroshi]

The last game had

3

afks. The last non-group game before that had our top laner running into other lanes and giving away kills after he got ganked ONCE, feeding everyone.

Explain to me how I can win those.

not saying you can win every single game. saying that the conclusion you "legit cannot climb" isn't valid. you get free wins too. And game-warping badness isn't necessarily game ending badness, even if it is sometimes.

more importantly, don't worry about the ranking. it's not like you'll get much higher in elo until, e.g your warding is better. so just focus on wards. and similarly for other metrics like cs. Why the rush to go up a bit in rank until you're at the point where EVERY game loss is due to your mistakes? If you're truly "below your skill level" (hint, your sample size is good so you're not), that's a free opportunity to get good at warding before you get punished over and over for it. what a swell opportunity! why be frustrated about it?

if someone elo boosted you up to the next league your team would just lose every game on vision. focus on improving your vision game to the point where you'll deserve to be in that league, and you'll find you get there precisely when you should be there. (again, extrapolating to other metrics that are also important. I just call out your warding because I can TELL that's a weak spot, but presumably there are other things to work on too.)

for example, my sample size is pretty low and I'm wining more than I lose, so it's likely I'm a bit below my "true" elo, e.g the place I'd be playing 100 games without improvement. it also happens I'm awful at wave control. my vision/shotcalling is carrying me and compensating for my crappy wave control. so I get some free games to work on the wave control against opponents who are at least ranked and not normal, but not as good as my "true opponents". I'm pretty glad for this! It's not like I'd like it more if every single ranked loss was because my lane opponent denied me minions to my turret and I didn't do the same well enough.

[animorpherv1]

I challenge that thought entirely. My vision is fine and is quite frankly better than a decent chunk of the people I play with regularly (yes, I do have some games where my vision is horrendous - but don't we all? Also, SK Gaming got first place in the regular season despite their lack of vision). My lack of vision is not important if I ping missing like a madman and the other laners don't back off, giving off free kills, and when I do place wards that see the enemies, they still die anyways. If I was playing in higher elos I wouldn't be playing with teammates so bad it makes me feel like I'm in Bronze all the time, who call gg at first blood 3 minutes in, or feed everyone because they got ganked with no wards up. League, at it's current state, is a game where it is much easier for one person to mess up and lose the game for their team than it is to do the exact opposite and carry 4 feeders.

I just played a fair few practice 1v1s with a friend who's around equal (if not better) skill level as I last night, and I managed to win 2 of the 3 lanes by a decent amount (stomping the first and making some outplays to gain me a lead in the other) and managed to not get horrendously stomped in the 3rd. I've won lanes vs. platinum players on a fairly consistent basis on champions I practice with. I know which of my champions to play into which champions that give me the best chance at countering them. I know what to do with a lead and how to snowball it into a win on each champion I play consistently.

[PJ.]

Is this what I used to sound like? You sound crazy ani. The only constant in your games is you.

"You are gonna lose 50 games and win 50 games, it's what you do with the 50 in between that counts". If you are splitting those winnable games than you are where you belong.

[PJ.]

So with a combination of thread suggestions and my own personal preference I'm maining these 5 champs for the foreseeable future:

Olaf

Urgot, Ahri, Skarner, Kalista,

bard

Velkoz

??? where karthus???

Already had a mid laner and karthus just doesn't play to my strengths

[mykonian]

Honestly it has become much harder to win 4v5 in S5/4. I used to see it all the time in S3/late S2.

I still vividly remember one game where I think I carried with Kassadin 3v5 back when he was super broken.

Also, AP Varus is a lot similar to Karthus, and he's super fun too! It's too bad I don't know how viable he is in ranked. Plus teammates think it's a troll pick :/

Also I tried to reddit thread you linked Ani. I got Janna, Teemo, and Master Yi lol

Edit: Also pre-reworked mid Soraka was by far the most similar to Karthus, which might be the reason I did so well on her (even better than would be expected due to the fact she was somewhat broken and easy to play)

But you probably shouldn't look for additional mid picks. If you get mid anyway, might as well pick karthus.

But stuff like knowing when to transition from sitting at the edge of the teamfight to going all in with him, how to zone, how to chase, how to lead your lay wastes and whatever else you think makes your karth so succesful, there's got to be stuff you can transition from one role to the other.

Spoiler: my personal example

For me, I started as a mostly singed player, I enjoyed engaging teamfights, I enjoyed the choice between diving their backline and peeling for yours, and I liked body zoning, as well as getting the most out of engagements, knowing your limits. During the time thresh/leona were the top support picks, I also enjoyed finding engagements the opponents couldn't take.

In the end, nearly all my succesful champions are champs with circles, most of which tanks. One of the closest picks in way of playing to a teamfight tank in the midlane when that was strong was karthus. So mummy/eve/sej/fiddle, taric/sona/zyra support, singed top, karth mid have been the champs over the years I had the better winrates or the highest elo's with that I can think of now, which I simply was the most comfortable on. Bruisers and adc's have been a weak spot, I simply don't have the movement skills and the intuition where to be with them.

[hitogoroshi]

ani, here are your last ten games. all times rounded to nearest minute. pinks will be included in the number for wpm but listed out separately because they are a different beast.

19 minutes, 3 wards, not support. .158 wpm.
47 minutes, 14 wards, not support. .298 wpm.
36 minutes, 19 wards, support. .528 wpm.
36 minutes, 14 wards + 1 pink. not support. .417 wpm.
31 minutes, 17 wards. support. .548 wpm.
33 minutes, 11 wards. support. .333 wpm.
20 minutes, 3 wards. not support. .150 wpm.
34 minutes, 13 wards. not support. .382 wpm.
34 minutes, 19 wards. support. .559 wpm.
50 minutes, 24 wards. support. .480 wpm.

so a rough not-support wpm average is .281 and a rough support average is .4896. you bought one pink ward in 10 games.

I'll do me now. I'm decent at warding. no myko but I get by.

29 minutes, 18 + 1 pink. support. .655 wpm.
25 minutes. 17 + 3 pink. not support. .800 wpm.
42 minutes. 25 + 2 pink. not support. .643 wpm.
33 minutes. 25 + 3 pink. support. .848 wpm.
34 minutes. 15 + 1 pink. not support. .471 wpm.
41 minutes. 22 + 1 pink. not support. .561 wpm.
20 minutes. 6 + 2 pink. not support. .40 wpm.
34 minutes. 9 + 1 pink. not support. .294 wpm. note that I had blue trinket for much of the game.
54 minutes. 37 + 2 pink. support. .722 wpm.
24 minutes. 15 + 2 pink. support. .708 wpm.

so a rough not-support wpm average is .528 and a rough support wpm average is .733. I had 18 pink wards in 10 games.

And I'm not a pro player by any means. I'm gold V for chrissakes. And yet my not-support average is higher than your support average. that's insane. If I was in your games instead of you, I could play support,

not buy sightstone,

and still have better vision control than you do. Not to mention how much we'd BOTH lose compared to myko, who you may note is also not a pro player. And the difference of pink control as opposed to normal wards.

I don't disbelieve that you're comparable to the other players in your games. that's because they're also garbage at warding, and like you, deserve to be precisely where they are. If you want to advance, you need to belong higher, and your bronze warding ain't gonna cut it. So don't focus on who "earned" the loss, focus on improving yourself. And if you think your vision numbers are fine, you should work on your game knowledge as well as your warding, because that's pretty obviously incorrect.

I'm tryin to help you here dog. you seem to play a lot of ranked and really care about advancing. this is a major thing holding you back. You're actually a higher rank than I am, at the moment - gold IV vs gold V. and yet your warding is absurdly shameful compared to mine. if your warding, with sightstone, as the role explictly tasked with the duty of chief warder, is worse than someone of a lower rank playing a random toplaner, do you really think you deserve to be a single division higher than you are?