Mod Error Mafia [TM2015] - Game Over

[notscience]

Mastins musings again-

ceph defending tbone gives him a pass
lld looks like scum now
mastin saw the avy change

@Cephs comment about them having a "because"- They didnt at first, mastin gave me some later
@shos's comment about mastin faking meta or something- Why wouldnt mastin just replace in for me then?
@shos's "mastin knows mastin town"- yea but that doesnt mean she can replicate it

VOTE: cabd
@Wis- Mastin wants a cabd vote

REVISED READS
Wis- town because mollie
Iec- trust
shos- town because townplay and mastin wants his wagon to die
tbone- claim is extremely unlikely to come from scum
Rhinox- solid posting, likes thought process
reck- could be scum but isnt likely given his stances
ceph- could be scum but if theres a sliver of hope ceph is town mastin wants ceph to live

leftovers-
tiershift- solid "meh" read
lld- vaguely suspicious content given her stances
cabd- just looks like scum

@wis- I was scumreading shos but it's just a shiny thing and mastin has more experience than me in dealing with shos and decrees this is town shos so

[Cephrir]

I don't care about insults, I'm a 90% psychopath, you can literally come here and take off your pants and tell me to suck you and I'll just go "meh, too small" and completely ignore you
~
Ceph, what IS your read on tboner?
~
Let's go through it sentence by sentence and then tell me what you want to know. (btw, you truly suck in quoting)

-that wasn't directed at you

-not sure anymore, he might be town

-you kinda got better in this post

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Cabd

L-2

[Wisdom]

I've read 12 pages. shos is town, and I'm getting the feeling Ceph is skillful active scum, and not town. I have some other minor reads but I'll let them develop further.

[Magua]

Vote Count 2.10

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

shos (4): T-Bone, Lady Lambdadelta, Rhinox, Iecerint
Cabd (4): xRECKONERx, shos, notscience, Cephrir
T-Bone (1): Wisdom
xRECKONERx (1): TierShift

Not Voting (1): Cabd

Deadline for Day 2 is Sunday May 3rd, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2015-05-03 18:00:00)

Name	Change	Score
Cabd	-	49
Cephrir	-	47
Iecerint	-	50
Lady Lambdadelta	-	51
notscience	-	51
Rhinox	-	47
shos	-	53
T-Bone	-	51
TierShift	-	51
Wisdom	-	50
xRECKONERx	-	54

[Cephrir]

Meh, read the rest and come talk to me

[Iecerint]

Unvote

[shos]

Iec, have you got any content to add to the game, maybe? voting and unvoting, while for pressure may work, are not enoughq

[Iecerint]

I think a single flip will clear up a lot for me.

I'm content to hang out for a bit for Wisdom's readthrough and Reck/LLD's weekend promises.

[shos]

And which flip would that be? What is your current opinions on people? You kinda slipped through my radar moat of the game.

Btw, can you confirm that your vote on me(and the correlated unvote) were of pressure-applying nature?

[Iecerint]

T-Bone is pretty obviously town. If he's scum, he's basically cleared Eddie for no reason or tied himself to Eddie after either flips. Neither was necessary. He tried to do something with the piece of information he had something to do with (Cephrir).

Shos has the worst reads in the universe and I'm not sure whether it's because he's scum.

Cephrir had the worst Katsuki vote in the universe and I'm not sure whether it's because he's scum.

Reck's performance totally lacks depth and it's Reck and I'm not sure whether it's because he's scum enjoying the likes of Shos and Cephrir.

This post has how I still feel about you kinda. Wisdom's point that you were behaving strangely toward your reads was enough to make me want to switch from Cabd to you. It also spells out some other people I have thoughts about. Wisdom changing his mind made me unvote.

Other than Wisdom replacing in, I don't think anything since Tuesday has really changed my view of the game. The main events I remember were lots of people saying that would bring content this weekend.

[Rhinox]

shos:

shos if only you paid as much attention to what players in the game post as you do trying to be mr. superhelpful townieleader...

lol taking it back, focus lost

But please, we need to have these wagons stop competing because:

1. cabd is scum and may just enjoy lurking to dayend

2. copper is still waiting for replacement
3. mollie is being replaced, we need eddie to catch up...in a day?
-> This could be a strategic move from their team, btw, as a reason to not-vote, if either any of the lynches is on their partner, or if they just benefit from nolynch. if this is, very interesting move, team The Leftovers. Smooooooothh....

4. T-Boner is probscum as well



in other words we don't have enough votes for two competing wagons. either kats people move to cabd, or cabd to kats. I don't care which one.

[Rhinox]

Rhinox, has mastin's thoughts helped you? they didn't help me. when I asked for food from teammates, what I wanted is food which has been COOKED, as in, reads with reasoning, not only "oh he thinks shos is town". Me asking for NS' thoughts is completely unrelated - he posted, which means he's reading and HERE, so I use the fact that he is HERE to actually gauge something out of it.

As a matter of fact they did help me, but that really isn't the point. YOU asked for reads. If they didn't help you, its your job to follow up, ask for elaboration, etc. You didn't do that, you just blew them off. You didn't acknowledge the content of the mastin reads at all until just now. All you said was that it could be faked reads. And I don't buy that you asking for NS's thoughts is unrelated at all.

real good you do when you attack my drunkpost, lol. drunkpost is not an excuse, well then sorry, lynch me, eh?

real good when you post bullshit like this instead of actually answering my questions. Remember when I said you're all fluff and refuse to engage in the tough stuff? Well here is a prime example. Here is the important stuff you ignored so you could score rhetorics points arguing the super important topic of drunkposts. I'll strike out what you addressed and bold the rest so you can easily see what I'm referring to:

What purpose does a post like 1642 serve when anything I would possibly say in response has already been said in 1635?

"Because drunk" is not a valid excuse.

I did go into my townread on NS anyways, and nobody ever goes "guys guys deadtownie thought this guy was town maybe we shouldn't lynch him". Post something that matters. Tell me again about why NS is scum. Or comment on what I said about NS. Do you agree or disagree and why? Tammy told me that since bins and NS are friends and bins suspected NS when she replaced in and Tammy could see NS wanting to kill bins as scum.

Let's talk about your T-bone read since you don't want to talk about NS and are all meh on Cabd. Why do you want to lynch him? I get the feeling you only want to lynch him because he claimed some results and won't give you more information about them like you seem to want. Same as I also feel like you only ended up wanting to lynch kats because he wouldn't fullclaim when you asked him to.

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Because noone has listened to his stance regarding me because it's entirely formed out of misrepping the thread.

NS we're talking about boner right now, not you

haha wow this is great.

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This is a little bit of a thing. I don't know why else Bins died unless there's some sort of conspiracy to kill my townreads.

It may or may not be a thing, but really not being able to guess why scum made a choice they did is not something out of the ordinary or something I'm concerned about.

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I have a swell idea

How about cabd catches up and we read him instead of his role

How can a proven claim be bullshit

And I doubt day 2 is going to be better, scum will kill someone active who actually gives a shit and this will turn into just another lurker randlynching spree to decide the victor of the game.

VOTE: Cabd

Because I don't want a last second deadline scramble for a lynch.

@Rhinox, this should help you remember why I started to scumread NS, I think.

(that was 4 days before deadline)

I really don't know what I'm supposed to be seeing here.

Here's what you said in real time:

Can we PRETTY FUCKING PLEAAAAAZZZZZZ

lynch notsci

The firat quote was a "im scum with cabd", the other was "im scum regarfless"

I didn't understand it then and I still don't understand it now. So, walk me through it?

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and I'm getting the feeling Ceph is skillful active scum, and not town.

Tammy keeps saying that she has concerns about Ceph and I think this would probably best explain those concerns IMO. I've entertained these thoughts myself, but then I think how screwed we are already if like the only other reasonable, consistently active voice in the game is scum

[Cephrir]

Oh hey yeah Tammy is on your team.

If anything I'm surprised she isn't totally flipping her shit!

[Wisdom]

I have read 38 pages. Still not liking Ceph. My gut also doesn't like Iecerint much. Relatively confident that {ns, shos, Reck, LLD, Rhinox} are all town. Not quite sure on the other three yet.

[Rhinox]

Oh hey yeah Tammy is on your team.

If anything I'm surprised she isn't totally flipping her shit!

About something specific or just the game in general?

She was working on, submitted, and has defended her dissertation so far while TM has been going on so I'm impressed she's kept up as well as she has.

[Cephrir]

About me, just for existing but I guess it's different when she's not actually in the game.

I looked for recent scum games from shos... the only remotely real one was just awful and he did nothing that looked slightly town but also wasn't really keeping up with the game so meh. I didn't find any smoking guns.

[notscience]

I have read 38 pages. Still not liking Ceph. My gut also doesn't like Iecerint much. Relatively confident that {ns, shos, Reck, LLD, Rhinox} are all town. Not quite sure on the other three yet.

If its any consolation i am reading iec based on mala so

[shos]

HOLY SHITT 1737 is long!
I'm drunk so I fear posting because apparantly that doesn't hold me not accountable lol! I will read somehwen though lol

[shos]

the thing with NS was thaaar he said OH GUYUS we should NOT lynch cabd only for his CLAIM lets hear the actual PLAYER aand THEN read him YES?>!

which makes sense as A) town or B) scum protecting buddy
but then,
just a few posts later
he votes cabd
because he doesn't want deadline issues

WHEN THERE ARE FOUR MORE DAYS

CONTRADICTION

[Wisdom]

I'm caught up.

The three reads I didn't have (Cabd, T-Bone, and Tier) are now (nullscum, town, nulltown). LLD is removed from my townreads, and I don't even remember why I was townreading her. I feel better about Iecerint, there was something in the posts where he was bringing Mala's thoughts into the thread that felt off but it was probably nothing. His later posts are fine.

I still don't like Cephrir and I don't get why anyone is townreading him. Sure, he's active. But there's no depth, no intent to do things or figure out things. It feels like he has set an alarm to go off every few hours and then he comes and posts something that looks townish. My only concern is that, as I have never played with him before, it might just be that I dislike his playstyle. But I really don't like him, he has made many posts where I thought "this looks exactly like what I posted as scum in X", including an early self-meta about him rolling a lot of scum games or how he states he should be considered obvtown.

Tier is meh. I got a general townfeeling but I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum. He does have a strong scumgame when he wants to.

Pretty confident that {shos, ns, Iecerint, Rhinox, T-bone, Reck} are town.

[Wisdom]

Cabd: You have not been playing in this game. You just exist and post once in a fortnight. This is not acceptable and I do not understand why your team is ok with it.

Either replace out, or you are today's lynch. I don't care if you are offended by people telling you what to do with your activity. I want to win this game. Go lurkplay in some other game that isn't Team Mafia.

VOTE: Cabd

The exact same applies to LLD, but Cabd is a priority.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Man, that post sure sounds like you think Cabd is town, and are lynching him based on his activity, rather than any real semblance of his alignment.

And that shos town read is real bad.

Why don't you tell me why Shos is town?

Oh, and um, I'm forgetting something.... what am I forgetting...

Oh yeah! If you think I'm replacing out, you might need to expand your hobbies to "skullfucking yourself with a steel dildo until you grow more than 2 braincells".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

oh, and you just put Cabd at L-1. You might want to at least announce it, if you don't give a fuck!

[Cephrir]

I'm going to have limited access for a while (April 25th - May 3rd).

I will probably still be posting.