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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:06 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:First off, I don't normally explain townreads because it's anti-town. But given you clearly need aid, I'll give you some help.

Cabd wrote:{Chandra, reck, mollie} town


Who's response to my PL thing pretty much sorts him as town although I'm really fucking sad that he took it personally, and I do regret that. Ceph's town becase town Chandra is town. Reck's hardliner approach to me "lurking it out" is actually exactly what town should think if they thought my absence was intentional.

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LLD being emotional about losing the tokens doesn't make her town this time, it just makes her (rightfully) pissed about last time.

The way copper has slow faded on me makes sense if he's using PURELY meta to sort me, but the fact that he idn't go and check if I was posting elsewhere does give me pause.

The way tier is defending me is really odd when I really have yet to do anything town whatsoever and was absent for like 8 pages.

Not relevant to this game but holy shit my scum meta has become lurking RIP golden age, deader than CLG this split.


This post doesn't come from a scum perspective. Multiple things on this post just don't.


Can't believe I have to explain this. His comments on Who pretty much only come from a town perspective, and given his actions this game, I can't see him being capable of faking it.

Further, his stance on me was unpopular at the time, and that's the key to all of this. He's been doing significantly unpopular things, that will put himself in a bad light. Do you really think he's a sufficiently bad player, that he would deliberately just avoid the thread when he DOES have time, when he's under pressure?

He's been at L-1 for 2 days in a row now, and still no panic. Nothing. What kind of shit brained logic do you have to use to assume that this kind of play comes from a scum!Cabd, let alone scum ANYONE. If his lurking doesn't have strategic benefit, what's the scum motivation behind DOING IT?
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:07 pm

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Wisdom wrote:Is Cabd her buddy, or her whiteknighting toy? That's the question.

I'm almost inclined to lynch her first, but the Cabd situation is just unbearable.


Like are you going to continue being trash?

I kind of hope you keep being this insufferably bad, it's motivating me to kick your ass and actually lynch scum this game. I need the motivation badly.

Still, I could do without the awful reads from a terrible slot, so if you'd like to try harder and take a closer look at the game, I'd appreciate it.
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:09 pm

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Vote Count 2.11


With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Cabd (5): xRECKONERx, shos, notscience, Cephrir, Wisdom
shos (3): T-Bone, Lady Lambdadelta, Rhinox
xRECKONERx (1): TierShift

Not Voting (2): Cabd, Iecerint

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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:15 pm

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Grey says the following about people:

Cabd- He says that Cabd's early push to discuss old roles is bad, because Grey thinks Magua isn't a mod who can be broken that way. He dislikes the follow-up vote onto Who, and his reads list. He also thinks that his content following that to justify himself "not being lynched" was horrible, and he takes huge issue with how Cabd admits himself he didn't even produce the content. Grey and I see differently on this slot.

Cephrir- Grey says he has a gut read on Ceph. Exact words were, "I like him, don't see how he's not town".

The Who slot: Grey is biased towards the Who replace out slot (which is now Wisdom) being town, solely based on the fact that Who spent tokens on being scum. He didn't give me a lot on this one, and said he was unsure due to lack of content. We'll see how he feels now.

Iecerint: He says that everything Grey is thinking about Cabd, Iec says, so he thinks Iec is town. Issue is, I don't agree with the Cabd read, so... ??? I think Iec is town anyway, so.

NS: Grey says he believes the hatd claim, and that his posts generally ring town.

Rhinox: Grey's strongest town read, bar none.


Shos: Already talked about Shos. He basically just parrots my feelings on the slot, though, he does feel that Shos' activity might be a point in his favor, and I need to be sure to look at other people and not just focus on Shos.

T-Bone: Grey complains that T-Bone's posting complaining that people are shortposting and attacking him, when he's doing similar shortposting and bitching is bad, and wants him dead ASAP.

Tiershift: He thinks similar things about TS. He thinks at LEAST one of TS/T-bone are scum, if not both. He talks about the level of engagement and posting being abysmal.
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:23 pm

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Wisdom, can you explain the reck read in a way that will convince me?

Reck is the main question mark that makes me feel like the game doesn't make sense as I see it.

If you can't, no need to explain.
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:37 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:His comments on Who pretty much only come from a town perspective, and given his actions this game, I can't see him being capable of faking it.

Blah blah this is so town, but again you don't explain why. Why can't scum fake a townread?

Further, his stance on me was unpopular at the time, and that's the key to all of this. He's been doing significantly unpopular things, that will put himself in a bad light. Do you really think he's a sufficiently bad player, that he would deliberately just avoid the thread when he DOES have time, when he's under pressure?

Scum often do unpopular things. If it was so each to identify scum, we wouldn't be playing this game.
Where are you getting that he DOES have time, yet chooses not to play? Because he quite clearly whined lots of time that he DOESN'T have time.
Finally, again, meta proves that he has reacted this way (by lurking) in a similar situation where he was scum, sooooo

He's been at L-1 for 2 days in a row now, and still no panic. Nothing. What kind of shit brained logic do you have to use to assume that this kind of play comes from a scum!Cabd, let alone scum ANYONE. If his lurking doesn't have strategic benefit, what's the scum motivation behind DOING IT?

I never panic either. I know lots of people who don't. That's a player trait, not an alignment one.

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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:39 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like are you going to continue being trash?

I kind of hope you keep being this insufferably bad, it's motivating me to kick your ass and actually lynch scum this game. I need the motivation badly.

Still, I could do without the awful reads from a terrible slot, so if you'd like to try harder and take a closer look at the game, I'd appreciate it.


yeah yeah. Maybe if you keep spamming such posts you'll convince someone they shouldn't listen to me.
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:40 pm

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what part of GUT >=D! don't you understand?
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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:41 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Shos: Already talked about Shos. He basically just parrots my feelings on the slot, though, he does feel that Shos' activity might be a point in his favor, and I need to be sure to look at other people and not just focus on Shos.

So "he focused on solving the score thingy" is Grey's whole case too?
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:44 pm

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Iecerint wrote:Wisdom, can you explain the reck read in a way that will convince me?

Reck is the main question mark that makes me feel like the game doesn't make sense as I see it.

If you can't, no need to explain.


mollie asked me the same thing. I am not quite sure about Reck, tbh. It's just I have gotten townvibes here and there, and it might be because he is one of the few people who have consistently pushed Ceph. If Ceph and/or Cabd happened to be town, I feel I should look at him harder, because otherwise he hasn't done anything too town and his content isn't that great.
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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:45 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what part of GUT >=D! don't you understand?

You can't explain it, so it became gut. Gotcha.
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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:51 pm

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you're right, Mafia is solely a game of Logic and any other method of looking at people based on their intent or actions, or the way they make you feel is invalid!

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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:58 pm

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This interaction is really interesting. I want so badly to townread LLD here but I can't quite convince myself it's a good idea.

Cabd is pretty devious -- underestimate him at your peril.

BTW, does anyone actually think Tiershift is town?
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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:00 pm

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I am perfectly aware that I keep saying things that will look terrible if Cabd flips scum, in case anyone was wondering.
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:03 pm

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Cephrir wrote:This interaction is really interesting. I want so badly to townread LLD here but I can't quite convince myself it's a good idea.

Cabd is pretty devious -- underestimate him at your peril.

BTW, does anyone actually think Tiershift is town?


The only time I've ever had an issue with Cabd scum, I was scumreading him until day 2, when Penguin Allen fake claimed Masons with him, and then we lost.

I'm still salty over that game, but I'm not exactly scared of this "secret Cabd scum game" that people are so paranoid over. I'm really confident Cabd is town, and Shos is scum.

And Wisdom... I dunno, probably town, just really bad. If I thought he was scum, I'd 1v1 him today, just to keep him from lynching obviously town Cabd, but I honestly don't think he's scum from his posting. Just a fucking arrogant moron who thinks his way of playing is the only way.
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:12 pm

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Cephrir wrote:I want so badly to townread LLD here

This is a subtle encouragement to people to townread LLD, despite her being obvious scum. If you could out your third buddy as well, we'd be all set.
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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:14 pm

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man you're bad, lol.
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:15 pm

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VOTE: LLD

Fuck this. This is whiteknighting.

Cabd fucking replace out. Please.
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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:15 pm

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Nah man sorry

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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:16 pm

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It certainly does read like whiteknighting. I don't know if it actually is, though.
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:17 pm

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Also, I hard defend my townreads as town -- I just can usually explain them better than this
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:18 pm

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Cephrir wrote:Nah man sorry

My only scumbuddies are my teammates


*makes note to tell team* :lol:

I can buy LLD as scum too.
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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:19 pm

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There is zero fucking reason for anyone to think Cabd is town. Much less repeat a thousand times that he is obvious town and fail miserably at explaining it. This is the definition of wking.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:21 pm

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I mean that they're the only ones I share a PT with, dingus :P
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Post Post #1799 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:22 pm

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so are you saying that I'm scum with Cabd, Wisdom?
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