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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:04 am

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Vote Count 2.17


With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Cabd (3): xRECKONERx, notscience, Cephrir
shos (3): T-Bone, GreyICE, Rhinox
T-Bone (2): shos, Wisdom
xRECKONERx (1): TierShift
GreyICE (1): Iecerint

Not Voting (1): Cabd

Deadline for Day 2 is Sunday May 3rd, at 07:00pm EDT (site time).
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(expired on 2015-05-03 18:00:00)


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Cabd
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49
Cephrir
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Iecerint
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Wisdom
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xRECKONERx
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:12 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:Nobody up to this point has actually done anything like that and nobody is explaining their push/read on me in anything other than vague conditionals and gut and policy.

Admittedly, 90% of my opinion on your slot relates to it being YOU that occupies the slot.

Your work drama stuff is legit and I can see that having hampered your ability.
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:13 am

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ActionDan is wondering why there was a massclaim in this game, but I haven't gotten there yet.
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:14 am

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That was not a massclaim, it was a massclaim of the previous setup before the reroll

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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:18 am

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Honestly if I didn't like Kagami would just go back to voting Cabd.
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:18 am

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How do you feel about Tbone?
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:18 am

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T-Bone wrote:Yeah but this is about my read on you. Your predecessors were scummy, I am scumreading your slot. I feel like you've been towning it up but this thing you have done doesn't make sense to me from a town perspective.

This is concordant with my own opinion about the recent Wisdom-swing.
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:18 am

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I think T-Bone is the least likely player in this game to be scum.
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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:19 am

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and why's that?
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:20 am

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also do tell me what doesn't make sense in my "swing" since you agree with tbone
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:21 am

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@ Shos --
Iecerint wrote:No further vote changes. Though they may have used all their juice.

This is referring to the point changes in the vote counts. Awhile ago, Everyone on the Cabd wagon for 4 points and everyone on the T-Bone wagon and one other wagon idr lost 1-3 points.

I made a post that described my theory about the points (dead players grant them) based on a high-profile game Vi did once and said GIVE ME POINTS IF THIS IS ACCURATE. Points did not change.

Juice being used up meant maybe the point-givers can only provide N points per phase or something. If they spent them all on the Cabd wagon thing, there aren't any left to endorse particular theories.
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:25 am

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Iecerint wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:Nobody up to this point has actually done anything like that and nobody is explaining their push/read on me in anything other than vague conditionals and gut and policy.

Admittedly, 90% of my opinion on your slot relates to it being YOU that occupies the slot.

Your work drama stuff is legit and I can see that having hampered your ability.

Yeah, I mean... just to elaborate on my real life circumstances, this game
began
the day after I got laid off from my job. I posted pretty frequently for the first... week or so? But then between constantly going to job interviews and being home for Easter/dealing with family and putting our resumes and the general "I am worthless" depression that accompanies losing a job, I just lost my way. (Plus... my team has given almost ZERO attention to this game as opposed to some of the others, which has left me pretty much soloing this right now.)

Then, I started my new job last week, and was just not prepared for the dramatic mental toll it would take on me while I adjust. Trying to get back to it now.
Iecerint wrote:ActionDan is wondering why there was a massclaim in this game, but I haven't gotten there yet.

Is Dan pretending to read but not actually reading and thinking that the list of claims from last game is actually a massclaim in this game? Classic Daniel.
Iecerint wrote:Honestly if I didn't like Kagami would just go back to voting Cabd.

Wait, why did Kagami want you off Cabd?
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:26 am

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He means because Kagami is replacing in
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:26 am

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Wisdom wrote:also do tell me what doesn't make sense in my "swing" since you agree with tbone

I have gone over this ad nauseum during this day-phase. Mainly it's for how he used his information at the start of the day. Though, now that I mention that, it's slightly goofy that he would still scumread you despite that result. I had forgotten that you were Eddie his result target until just now.

My recollection is that you were the one who went so far as to say "T-Bone is obviously town, just read his posts" earlier today and I was like "Oh, thank god, a sane person joined this game" (I haven't rechecked, so maybe it was someone else). I think you were on LLD at the time. Since your focus has shifted twice. That's fine and I guess it's your meta; even though you play a lot I don't remember playing with you before this game much, so I wasn't prepared for it.

My thought process was that I went to the most recent page upon waking up this afternoon, saw the thread, noticed that you were suddenly pushing T-Bone of all people, and groaned a little. Then I started reading. I'm not done reading.
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:26 am

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my theory on the points
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it's probably just some fag trying to fuck w/ everyone
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:27 am

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Wisdom wrote:He means because Kagami is replacing in

Oh I assumed Kagami was on his team nvm
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:27 am

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nah shes on cabd's
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:27 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:
TierShift wrote:right, but you did connect them by that quote. Don't deny it.

I never denied that? I said that my scumreads developed independently and were independent.

Oh, that's right. You only said '(citation needed)' as though you were denying it. You get bonus points for messing with semantics!

If that's the case, and I "connected them by that quote", then here: TierShift & Wisdom are players in this game that I have a null-town read on right now! Now you two are connected by a quote, does that mean my read of each of you is dependent on the other as well?

No, of course not.

Fuck off. You were obviously calling ceph scum in that post for defending a buddy.

Your read on ceph only turned into a real scumread once you started talking about him together with cabd.
Stop denying that and stop discrediting me.
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:29 am

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@iecerint But do you agree with tbone that my shifts dont make sense from town? Or do you just find them odd?
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:29 am

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xRECKONERx wrote:
Iecerint wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:Nobody up to this point has actually done anything like that and nobody is explaining their push/read on me in anything other than vague conditionals and gut and policy.

Admittedly, 90% of my opinion on your slot relates to it being YOU that occupies the slot.

Your work drama stuff is legit and I can see that having hampered your ability.

Yeah, I mean... just to elaborate on my real life circumstances, this game
began
the day after I got laid off from my job. I posted pretty frequently for the first... week or so? But then between constantly going to job interviews and being home for Easter/dealing with family and putting our resumes and the general "I am worthless" depression that accompanies losing a job, I just lost my way. (Plus... my team has given almost ZERO attention to this game as opposed to some of the others, which has left me pretty much soloing this right now.)

Then, I started my new job last week, and was just not prepared for the dramatic mental toll it would take on me while I adjust. Trying to get back to it now.
Iecerint wrote:ActionDan is wondering why there was a massclaim in this game, but I haven't gotten there yet.

Is Dan pretending to read but not actually reading and thinking that the list of claims from last game is actually a massclaim in this game? Classic Daniel.
Iecerint wrote:Honestly if I didn't like Kagami would just go back to voting Cabd.

Wait, why did Kagami want you off Cabd?

Yes, I legit hadn't made the connection between this game and your personal life until maybe a week ago, and I still kind of periodically forgot about it while evaluating you unless I reflected carefully and remembered. It differs significantly from Cabd's approach, where he'd report in on having an illness or the pressures of living in Chicago and being employed every time someone called him out.

Yes, Dan is apparently pretending to read. I glanced at my team thread before reading through this one and posted here after seeing the top page and maybe starting glancing through the earliest ones.

And yeah, just referring to the fact of Kagami replacing in.
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:30 am

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TierShift wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:
TierShift wrote:right, but you did connect them by that quote. Don't deny it.

I never denied that? I said that my scumreads developed independently and were independent.

Oh, that's right. You only said '(citation needed)' as though you were denying it. You get bonus points for messing with semantics!

CORRECT. YAY, CONGRATS TIERSHIFT, I SAID 'CITATION NEEDED' IN RESPONSE TO YOU INSINUATING MY READ ON CABD/CEPHRIR WERE INDEPENDENT OF EACH OTHER

jesus fucking CHRIST. this whole time ive been saying they DEVELOPED ORGANICALLY/INDEPENDENTLY. im not fucking saying i never said their name together in the same fucking sentence you pill, im saying THEY ARE NOT SCUM BECAUSE OF EACH OTHER
If that's the case, and I "connected them by that quote", then here: TierShift & Wisdom are players in this game that I have a null-town read on right now! Now you two are connected by a quote, does that mean my read of each of you is dependent on the other as well?

No, of course not.

Fuck off. You were obviously calling ceph scum in that post for defending a buddy.

Your read on ceph only turned into a real scumread once you started talking about him together with cabd.
Stop denying that and stop discrediting me.[/quote]
No, you're wrong, you're categorically wrong, and the entirety of the post I
just fucking reiterated
shows that I had posted thoughts/reasons for disliking Cephrir COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH CABD
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:31 am

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Iecerint wrote:I don't remember playing with you before this game

also yeah, unless you have an alt we haven't played together before
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:31 am

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Wisdom wrote:@iecerint But do you agree with tbone that my shifts dont make sense from town? Or do you just find them odd?

Not scummy. More like they make me angry kind of, or maybe more like disappointed.

Disappointed because I thought you had a perspective similar to mine, but now it seems like your approach is just kind of haphazard and I just liked what appeared to be your perspective.
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:31 am

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Wisdom wrote:Because he does. I cant help you if youre not seeing it

You know this thing you always do? It's annoying.
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:32 am

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Wisdom wrote:
Iecerint wrote:I don't remember playing with you before this game

also yeah, unless you have an alt we haven't played together before

Someone from 2009-2011 also used an L avatar, so I associate you with him.
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