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What should I ask ika?"i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Go tell CES that "wgeurts says you need to look at anen's ISO in other games. Your spoiler thing is crumpets.""i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Esp, I've been reading your game but I honestly can't make sense of the mechanics. I wouldn't know how to scum hunt with this.
I'm afraid I'm not going to be very useful, I'll ISO cheetory to look at his tone for all that's worth.
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I'll make the CES post later, I'll also add some other stuff."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Has Cheetory hard buddied on someone and then slowly distanced himself from them?
Looking at his ISO I'd say he's town. If he's scum he tends to buddy town and then slowly distance as the game goes on, be very alert if you see this happening.
I'd take his offer to see wether this happens or not."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Okay, will do.
Btw, I've nearly given you a title![:]](./images/smilies/icon_smiling.png "Cheerful Smile")
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SleepyKrews's thinking about it he just posted.
I changed the restrictions for the wiki page btw.
Anyway, I'm reading you game from the start again. I'm going to try and reach out to certain players that look like they can be swayed through you. If you can get through today this will be an easy win.
I'm also pondering the result of you unvoting ank due to team reasons, I need to see how the situation is though to plot wether this will improve or worsen the situation.
Stay tuned."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Just putting this here to further my thoughts:
Spoiler: Votecounts"i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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VC 1.1/2 - Ika looks town while BBT is shady.
VC 1.4 - BBT is looking dodgy for abandoning the wagon which only consists of town.
VC 1.6 - Anks jump is shady.
VC 1.8 - Zach's jump is noted. Probably one scum in Anti/Ank. I'd place my money on ank being scum though.
VC 1.9 - BBT's bail out is pretty bad. If theel is scum this should be looked at. Theel town would make za look bad. This psyche wagon could be seen as a counter-wagon if theel scum.
Theel scum would make BBT shady vote wise.
VC 1.16 - This wagon evaporates on elk. Zach's vote is noted.
VC 1.21 - CES vote is noted.
VC 1.21/27 - Ika and theel look really bad in these vote counts.
VC 2.3 - Ika is not likely scum with theel.
VC 2.5 - Ank's and Ika's votes are bad as I'm town reading CES.
Don't like regfan's vote park, may be usual play though?
2.9 - God this wagon is awful.
2.11 - In the unlikely case CES is scum regfan may well be his partner.
2.18 - Backs up the last statement, really keep this in mind.
Looking at the last 2 days I'd say Zach/BBT/Theel/Ank look bad. Regfan certainly if CES is scum.
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I don't think you should drop the ank read anen, won't work. Zach however is a good option to push. I'll go do that while explaining why I "think" CES is town."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Tell BBT to watch his votes, he's looking pretty bad."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Oh, I made up that VCA to fit a town mindset slightly biased to leave the scum out as much as possible. I'm looking for weak links in the town."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Wow, such a thorough work! Thanks a lot!
I don't think I should drop the Ank-wagon as long as it counters mine.
A Zach lynch would never go through now. (However, I may tell later that you think he's scum.)
I'm thinking about the possibilities. (Also, I don't want to posttoomuch.)R.I.P. Stephen Hawking-
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I see I've been asked to elaborate, quote my list of vote counts and let him look for himself.
He's safe for now however he's gotten himself into wagons which will look shady later when more flips have turned. Also say that it looks like Regfan is linked to CES as a partner vote wise for whatever that's worth.
Anen (you) flipping scum makes him look shady due to day 1 votes and a theel town flip would really put him under pressure if people go into VCA. Tell BBT to let titus look at my quoted VC list as she's very good at this."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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So tell BBT to ask titus on where he should be careful."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Uhhh, really sorry but I don't think I'm going to make it 'till next Day.
(1) Either I'm f-cked it up somewhere seriously, but if so, I can't see where.
(2) Or it's simply the egregore of the game. There are no real reasons for scumreading me. More precisely, everything they find scummy, would be scummy if I'd done it in a different way. (Eg. being on a vanity wagon at Day2, whoa, that's scummy. However, if I had ended up not voting or on a major wagon, I bet, that would have been just as scummy as well.) Noone seems to be interested in either my reads or my thoughts or whatsoever. And I don't really have a single ally who actuallytownreadsme, although there would be plenty of things to misread. (As a start, not having an ally is a serious towntell in itself!)
So, right now our next plan is, I think, to "glue" each of us to other players. Like, Regfan is scum if CES is scum, BBT is scum if Ankamius is scum, Aneninen is scum if Elk is scum and vice versa.
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Wgeurts, please, turn back the Matrix 14 Wiki Page! We want to talk about it! Thanks!R.I.P. Stephen Hawking-
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I did
I'll go check it again.
Anyway, fight to the bitter end. Suggest a plan, make a town bloc with regfan without you in it.
Basically you should act like you accept you're going down but you're going to make the most of it.
Make a huge read wall and make a town bloc out of town players that have regfan as town, also put BBT as scum and a few others.
Try a final mindgame, (ISO nacho in the game I died in for an idea)."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Talk it over with me here, we need to do this correctly if you're doing it.
ISO nacho in the nightless game I died in, he accepted his death and acted in a way to be "the glue" that will unite the town.
He wanted his lynch.
However, people stopped voting him because of it for some reverse psychology reason.
We could try it here."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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I may be really really good at scum theater, but I have no idea how to tutor people in it. It generally goes down as a happy accident.
What might be an idea is to push a town out of nowhere. If you're going down, taking a town with you via bluffing a bus might actually buy your team an extra day which is awesome, especially if there is an unconfirmed universal town read.Don't @ me.-
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Also, say in thread to BBT that "CES is town stop pushing him and get on real wagons like ika/zach/ank.""i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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This gives me an opening to speak and it'll make CES look bad on a possible death from you. It distances BBT as well."i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Make sure to say "wgeurts asked me to post this"
And bold it with "!!!'s".
Actually:
"BBT is town for fudge sake get your crumpets together and get on a real scum like Ank/Zach/Ika!!!""i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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EBWOP:
"@BBT, CES is...""i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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Well, I'm not surely lost yet... only two votes, even if plenty of players are shadowing my wagon.
And I'm not planning to give it up at all.
I'll read Nacho as suggested. Also, I'll try to keep it minimal for a day or so, let's see what's going on.
The biggest question is: will there be a real counter-wagon and if so, who? Everything else depends on that, I suppose.
Even if I go down, the more time I have the more things I can do. I can still point out that noone has been interested in anything I want to tell and basicly everyone is Regardless Of Card-ing me. (After all, a scum has buddies and I don't seem to have anyone on my side, do I?)
– I'll develop a townread on CES, partly because of the CES/BBT interaction. After my flip that will frame him.
– Regfan is a "nothing scummy" read, but I'm not worried about him, he's been scumreading me for ages.
– Ankamius is obviously scum for me. If he gets lynched, I'm an insta-lynch next Day, I suppose. However, BBT develops a townread on him meanwhile and this has been pointed out by CES too.
– BBT gets scummier as the game goes on, I have plenty of meta backing it. If we happen to be counter-wagons, hurray, that'll clear the other one.
– On Ika, I think I could be wishy-washy enough. If I get lynched, I can still have a "third possible scum" read on him and as we know, scums tend to put their partners there.
– Elk must be townread, he can be framed very easily after my flip.
– I can do nothing about Zach, he won't get lynched ever.
– Anti is a hard question. However, he could have used his teammates' opinion for scumreading me and it's never happened so far.
Why do you think that sentence would help, Wgeurts?R.I.P. Stephen Hawking-
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Push zach for exactly that, it's the last thing people would expect scum you to do. Pushing Ank is what they expect and will lead to your death eventually.
You need to try and form a town bloc, with regfan in it as the town. I'll look at others but you can say that wgeurts suggests a CES/Regfan/Antihero bloc.
Also saying the above may start question towards me, it also shows that when you mention me that you're not making it up if they see my interactions that could follow from this.
It's also odd for a team member as scum to reach out in thread to a scum partner.
We need to play what they least expect, wait a little (please post that sentence though.) and if your lynch is inevitable it's time to start a shitstorm. (Once again, read nacho.)"i agree we should have a rule against wgeurts" -Davsto
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