8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[Metal Sonic]

(which is why he even wrote a guide with that title).

(Aside) I want to see this. After the game is over, ring up ABR to post this? Keeping this post recorded here.

[Alchemist21]

Ok. These last few pages make me think it's ZZZX/Ooba.

I still want to know why Mollie unvoted altogether. We need her support.

Also, Titus has said in our PT she has the bad luck to hit the Townies first that end up in her VCA lynchpool. She hasn't given an updated VCA vut she still seems to be pretty confident in her first one.

VOTE: ZZZX

P-edit: It's on the wiki, and it's a few years old. I can give you the link now if you want.

[ZZZX]

Ok. These last few pages make me think it's ZZZX/Ooba.

I still want to know why Mollie unvoted altogether. We need her support.

Also, Titus has said in our PT she has the bad luck to hit the Townies first that end up in her VCA lynchpool. She hasn't given an updated VCA vut she still seems to be pretty confident in her first one.

VOTE: ZZZX

P-edit: It's on the wiki, and it's a few years old. I can give you the link now if you want.

^ and this is how u catch scum

Metal/alch gg

[quadz08]

VOTECOUNT 7.10

ZZZX (2) - Metal Sonic, Alchemist
Alchemist (1) - Zar
Metal Sonic (1) - ZZZX

Not Voting (2) - Pirate Mollie, Ooba

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Zar is V/LA until 5/5.
ZZZX is V/LA until 5/6.

Deadline is 5/6 at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2015-05-06 18:00:00).

[Alchemist21]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... em_Lynched

[ZZZX]

what is that link even supposed to mean?

mafia is nto a game that can be solved bya guideline sadly so... wahts ur point here?

[Zar]

VOTE: metal btw

I never liked ooba wagon composition anyway

Also metal remeber when i said that my scum reads do not matter most of the game since I am town hunting? thats why ooba's read fell. his town read got weaker than zar's. right now I am trusting in zar and mollie as town and thats it.

The above comments point to you suspecting Metal/Alch more than ooba and your comment about the ooba wagon here seems to indicate so. I still don't understand why you weren't voting one of your bigger suspects and claiming intent to hammer ooba instead if you didn't like them both being in the wagon.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: metal

[pirate mollie]

zarella can you give an actual read on ooba tia?

[ZZZX]

well im sorry i didn't believe in wge, neither did the rest of the people (Zar, Grey, Ooba, wgeurts) on the 4 people wagon

Wge didn't believe in wge? Are you just copy pasting without reading the game or wat

Also at zar I have said I voted ooba at that time as following Mollie mainly with poe as a 2ndary mini reason

[Alchemist21]

what is that link even supposed to mean?

mafia is nto a game that can be solved bya guideline sadly so... wahts ur point here?

It's the link Sonic asked for. It's not meant to make a point.

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: metal

Mollie please come back to ZZZX or switch to Ooba with me.

[quadz08]

VOTECOUNT 7.11

ZZZX (2) - Metal Sonic, Alchemist
Metal Sonic (2) - ZZZX, Pirate Mollie
Alchemist (1) - Zar

Not Voting (1) - Ooba

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Zar is V/LA until 5/5.
ZZZX is V/LA until 5/6.

Deadline is 5/6 at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2015-05-06 18:00:00).

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: metal

Mollie please come back to ZZZX or switch to Ooba with me.

why do you suddenly not want to lynch metal?

[Alchemist21]

VOTE: metal

Mollie please come back to ZZZX or switch to Ooba with me.

why do you suddenly not want to lynch metal?

Because you, ABR, and Titus were all telling me he's Town. Then when we had an Ooba wagon ZZZX's reaction to it wasn't great; he acted like he suspects Ooba but he's voted away when he could. I feel like Ooba and ZZZX are trying to distance from each other while managing to push a wagon together, and that's making me more confident that Ooba and ZZZX are the scumteam and MS is Town.

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Also, Titus just finished the updated VCA and still as ZZZX and Ooba as the most likely scumteam, with you and MS as the most likely Town. These are the tl;dr's of her VCA.

She says Metal is Town due to being wagoned alongside two wagons that flipped scum and thinks it's unlikely Town had wagons on 3 scum like that, and still says the pattern is strikingly similar to Egg in Uncouth Mafia.

She has Mollie as strong Town since she was a CW to a scumflip.

Zar is probTown because although there are a few instances where Zar

could

be scum, the voting patterns make him unlikely scum with ZZZX or Ooba.

Ooba is the weaker scumread for her based on Seraphim lurking through D1 and she thinks Sotty voting the slot then leaving looked like scum bussing and leaving.

ZZZX is the stronger scumread for her because whenever he was voting for scum, he would leave the wagon if it got too serious only if there was a viable wagon to join. She believes Town that gets cold feet on a wagon leaves regardless of the viability of alternate wagons.

[ZZZX]

Because you, ABR, and Titus were all telling me he's Town. Then when we had an Ooba wagon ZZZX's reaction to it wasn't great; he acted like he suspects Ooba but he's voted away when he could. I feel like Ooba and ZZZX are trying to distance from each other while managing to push a wagon together, and that's making me more confident that Ooba and ZZZX are the scumteam and MS is Town.

Ooba so scbuddy to me his vote would have lynched me if the mod didn't do the deadline qrong ok

[ZZZX]

ZZZX is the stronger scumread for her because whenever he was voting for scum, he would leave the wagon if it got too serious only if there was a viable wagon to join. She believes Town that gets cold feet on a wagon leaves regardless of the viability of alternate wagons.

I don't even get what the last sentwnse means but the thing is that this is a lie. I have been trying to push for the wagon on scum all the time andswitfhed to hoppla as a case of time remaining and getting the game moving frankly.

Also alch. If you were town you would have looked and saw how metal refused to vote the scum any single time except maybe once. And he wasnt the "counter wagon" at all m8. Ita bs.

[ooba]

So it again boils down to MS\Alch vs a slightly possible mollie\ZZZX. Voting patterns fit etc.

Alch
- your analysis is so shallow.
- Your slot completely ignores everything from the point I replaced in - and this is for ABR, Titus VCA etc. etc. - because it's quite clear I'm town this game.
- Your slot cherry picks points against Sera. Even greyIce called the ISO "Sera's heart was in the right place etc"
- Me with ZZZX is impossible because my vote would have lynched him if not for the deadline mixup

And you still haven't answered 'Who's scum if I flip town?'

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: alchemist

[ZZZX]

personally at this point i dont care which one of metal or alch dies first since they are both scum so..

VOTE: alch

this is l1.

[quadz08]

VOTECOUNT 7.12

Alchemist (3) - Zar, Pirate Mollie, ZZZX
ZZZX (2) - Metal Sonic, Alchemist

Not Voting (1) - Ooba

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Zar is V/LA until 5/5.
ZZZX is V/LA until 5/6.

Deadline is 5/6 at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2015-05-06 18:00:00).

[Alchemist21]

So it again boils down to MS\Alch vs a slightly possible mollie\ZZZX. Voting patterns fit etc.

Alch
- your analysis is so shallow.
- Your slot completely ignores everything from the point I replaced in - and this is for ABR, Titus VCA etc. etc. - because it's quite clear I'm town this game.
- Your slot cherry picks points against Sera. Even greyIce called the ISO "Sera's heart was in the right place etc"
- Me with ZZZX is impossible because my vote would have lynched him if not for the deadline mixup

And you still haven't answered 'Who's scum if I flip town?'

If you flip Town I would think MS/Zar. I really doubt you'll flip Town though. I have not ignored everything since you replaced in. In fact at one point I reversed my read on your slot because of how you handled Kagami and Sotty when you replaced in. Again, bussing is an invalid argument for not being scum with someone because at this point any pair of players has had "suspicion" cast in at least one direction between them. You and ZZZX have shown an attempt to work together while maintaining distance this phase. If I die now, I die telling you all it's ZZZX and Ooba.

@Mollie, when I flip Town, you go for these two and DO NOT STOP.

Venge: Ooba

[Alchemist21]

Also, @Mollie, Titus says she's mad because you are literally repeating Survivor Mafia. She's 95% confident on ZZZX and 75% on Ooba and would bet the game on them as the scumteam.

[ZZZX]

She's 95% confident on ZZZX

Titus frankly never ever read me right, If you were town titus would never do that statement after hearing me say that statement a few days back.

If titus is still nto convinced here it is again

Titus cant read me at all.(Tried to keep that in the most friendly way cus <3 to play with titus anyway )

[ZZZX]

but sadly you and metal are scum and are using the same percentages nearly (wot)